Things to look for in a 2020 Dem nominee for President (and VP)

Filed in National by on November 10, 2018

TPM’s Judis talks about things to look for in a Dem nominee in 2020. I’ll add what to look for in the VP selection below.

The first thing to say is that with US presidential elections, which because of the primary system put a premium on skill as a campaigner, you really can’t tell until you get to the primaries themselves and see the candidates in action.

I remember going around in the summer of 2015 in New Hampshire. At the time, Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker was supposed to be the inside choice for president, but when I saw him at a New Hampshire town hall, he seemed to have the public presence of Peewee Herman, and several months later he was out of the race. So I’d list three positives and one negative to look for:

1) Does the candidate project high energy/vivacity/large presence/charisma? It was no accident in 2015 that Trump, who, sorry to say, has brilliant political instincts, went after Jeb Bush as “low energy.” Our last four presidents have all had this kind of high energy charisma in abundance, and it helped them get the nomination in the first place. (George H.W. Bush, who didn’t, was pushed into the presidency partly by the evil genius of Lee Atwater and the ineptitude of his opponent.)

2) Does the candidate reach the audience by recognizing what it really cares about? Bernie Sanders, for instance, was derided by the Hillary Clinton people for proposing unrealistic programs, but he hit on issues and themes – universal health insurance, student debt and college tuition, campaign finance – that his audiences really cared about. Ditto Trump. Not Hillary Clinton, not Jeb Bush, not John Kerry in 2004 or John McCain in 2008 or Mitt Romney in 2012.

3) Can the candidate boast of significant or even heroic accomplishments? Yes, Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump (making money), Bob Dole, Dwight Eisenhower, Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, John McCain. Not Barack Obama (except for the very fact of a part-African American from humble origins being the candidate.)

4) [Negative] Will the candidate have to answer for scandals or controversial decisions or judgments? Definitely Hillary Clinton (Iraq in 2008 and emails in 2016) and Bill Clinton (who was given up for dead in the winter of 1992), and Trump (“Access Hollywood”). Not Reagan, Obama or George W. Bush, except for some manufactured or minor stuff.

The VP selection should be the person who comes in second. I wrote a post about this. A couple actually. If I find them I’ll link to them. Suffice to say that my logic is unassailable. None of this “we need Virginia” inside baseball bullshit.

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  1. OK, I’ll throw in a little ‘We need (fill in the blank)’ bullshit.

    Let’s assume that, oh, to pull a name out of thin air, Beto O’Rourke is the nominee. I’d put someone like Amy Klobuchar on the ticket with him. Why? She hails from the midwest, the Area That Hillary Forgot. Her state has a D governor, so we’re not at any real risk of losing the seat like we would be if Sherrod Brown was the nominee.

    If it’s Kamala Harris, then a Beto would be the perfect fit. And they could WELL be 1 and 2 in the hearts of D voters.

    I’ll say this: We have some great potential candidates for 2020. Harris and O’Rourke are probably my two faves, since I don’t think that Elizabeth Warren will run. I ALSO think that O’Rourke and Harris would be less susceptible to being Trumpified.

    • jason330 says:

      El Som, you ignorant slut.

      The second place person has the momentum and machinery to put to use in a national campaign. No need to piss that all away and try the “tried and failed” 50% +1 elcetoral college strategy.

      Clinton/Sanders*
      Obama/Clinton+
      Kerry/Dean*
      Gore/Bradley*
      Clinton/Brown+
      Dukakis/Biden*
      Mondale/Jackson*

      * = Would have won.
      + – Won anyway.

      • Not necessarily. The second place person could also be the the the once odds-on fave candidate who ran a shitty campaign. Hillary Clinton circa 2008 comes to mind.

  2. bamboozer says:

    Also a Harris/Rourke fan, fills the bill for high energy and concern for what the voters want. And other than manufactured “scandal” neither has any baggage worthy of the name. Having said that I’m sure the Republican smear machine will begin work on these two in short order. Trump will continue to be loathed even as assorted fools venerate his evil perfidy, it will not matter, you cannot win a national election on your base alone.

  3. nathan arizona says:

    Yes, that “what the voters want” is key.

    • jason330 says:

      Amazing how Democrats like John Carney still don’t get that simple fact. Sucking up to a remnant of backwards ass losers in the name of bipartisanship. Sickening.

  4. RE Vanella says:

    Bernie would’ve won.