June 19 Open Thread: Stop Calling Us Nazis!

Filed in National, Open Thread by on June 19, 2018

How dare you call Jeff Sessions a Nazi! Some people have been doing that, and he was quick to point out the difference: Nazis kept Jews from leaving, while Sessions is keeping foreigners from entering. Big difference, ergo not Nazis. Another difference: The Nazis gave Sophie a choice.

The shit show has gone on for about 72 hours now, and it’s ramping up today with the release of a heart-wrenching audiotape of border personnel laughing as children wail. I haven’t worked up the nerve to listen yet.

Like Monty Python’s Black Knight, Trump cannot process having lost a fight, so he prevaricates away, flailing like Doc Ock in Spidey’s web. But why are Republicans floating so many lame justifications for this PR nightmare? Because, Amanda Marcotte points out, that’s how conservatives crowdsource their propaganda. Their voters approve of the policy, in sharp contrast to the rest of the country:

55% of self-identified Republican voters in the Quinnipiac poll said they approve of the president separating immigrant children from their families. In the CNN poll, the number was slightly higher: 58% of GOP voters back the policy.

The solons at the Wall Street Journal can read polls even if Trump can’t, and they erupted in a yammering frenzy, calling for revocation of the policy to end “an election-year nightmare.”

Interesting item at Daily Kos about a Hillary Clinton speech in which she got passionate about the children being used as pawns, and the crowd went wild. Hillary Rodham has been advocating for children since before she added Clinton to her name, so she might have found the right issue for raising her post-election voice without people shushing her.

Oh, I almost forgot: Trump, playing Spaceman Spiff, announced he wants a standalone military Space Force to give America military dominance in space, which would violate the treaty demilitarizing space that we made everyone else sign. Maybe he really is Spaceman Spiff, whose every adventure began with him crash-landing on an alien planet.

Here’s what vaping hath wrought: Cigarette smoking in the U.S. has reached a new low, with plummeting use by teens fueling the exodus. Only 16% of the adult population — and only 9% of teens — still puffs the real stuff.

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  1. Homesteader says:

    At least Sessions’ own church denomination had the guts to call him out on this-
    http://thehill.com/homenews/news/392928-hundreds-of-members-of-sessionss-church-write-formal-complaint-over-separation

  2. RE Vanella says:

    Also, for the record, Mr Godwin has suspended Godwin’s Law in this case.

    He says they’re Nazi scum. I see no reason to argue.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/sfmnemonic/status/896884949634232320

  3. bamboozer says:

    Have noticed the ranks of the smokers have diminished, also noticed vapes have become common. More of a lateral move, but decidedly less annoying. As noted Trump cannot recognize let alone admit defeat, as for the slow jam propaganda of lame excuses their all pathetic. Did notice Trump was dumb enough to latch on to the “crises actor” accusation for the kids. May play well in Hootenholler but nowhere else I suspect.

  4. Jason330 says:

    Mitch Crane, who is a regular Ralph Abernathy to hear him tell it, leads a Democratic group that endorsed a Republican for office.

    I’m really seething over that shit because the ONLY way to get out of where we are is for ALL Republicans EVERYWHERE to lose. Even a Republican who is nice to gays must be called out. This shit is way out of hand. Nice Republican and crypto Republican Democrats like Tom Carper are enabling this shit mess.

    They all need to go.

  5. mediawatch says:

    If Trump is still talking about the Space Force two weeks from now (there is a good chance that he’ll have moved on to another distraction by then), you can bet we’ll be hearing how the 70(?)-year-old space demilitarization treaty was the “worst deal ever,” and we’ll have to withdraw from it.

  6. RE Vanella says:

    Thank God this guy is a real Democrat

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Sen_JoeManchin/status/1009088955025936385

    What a great resister.

  7. Jason330 says:

    Trump told Congress not to worry about the cost of the space force. He said it was gonna no to be paid for by Uranus

    I got to that late night joke monologue first yesterday at noon but didn’t write it down anywhere.

  8. Alby says:

    @mediawatch: The treaty was just another excuse for other countries to take advantage of us.

    I’m a bit surprised he hasn’t presented Europe with a bill for the Marshall Plan plus interest.

  9. Liz Allen says:

    Finally Carney does the right thing…refusing to send our guards to the border to support the child kidnappers.

  10. RE Vanella says:

    This is going to start happening more and more. I encourage you all to join in. Embarrass them in public.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/mdc_dsa/status/1009230659729215489

  11. Liz Allen says:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/06/trump-immigrants-infest/563159/

    Guess who else referred to human beings as an infestation…Hitler.