June 14 Open Thread: Lawful But Awful

Filed in National by on June 14, 2018

The headline comes from this story about the ways gun manufacturers already are working on products designed to circumvent bans on bump stocks and other after-market products that turn legal firearms into questionably legal ones. This is why gun nuts want to get very specific about what’s banned — it gives them a guidebook on how to work around the intent of the laws.

Likewise, Javanka broke lots of precedents but apparently no laws in enriching themselves in office. The same RWNJs who went apoplectic at Hillary Clinton collected hundreds of thousands in speaking fees have no problem with collecting tens of millions in business deals goosed along by their political power.

On the other hand, New York State alleges they broke several laws by running Trump’s phony charity as a tax-free piggy bank.

Members of the cult known as the GOP still screech about Hillary Clinton, apparently unaware that Trump does all the same things they complain about, only on a much larger scale. Hillary’s unsecured “classified” emails only matter if you’re worried about spies — Russian spies — gaining access to them. Now they get the material straight from the president. The wheel-greasing donations to the Clinton Foundation have been replaced by straight-up payments to Trump companies.

So why don’t RWNJs notice? Because they’ve uncovered yet another nefarious child-sex-ring plot by elite Democrats. Oh, those Democrats are clever, but they slipped up when they left a white painted cross on the ground near an abandoned Cemex plant near Tucson. Everybody has told these armed kooks that the crosses were placed there as reference markers for aerial mapping, but these patriots realized the truth right away: Hillary Clinton’s pedophile ring was here. I guess nobody wants to tell them that if you’re obsessed by the idea of child pedophile rings, you’re probably a pedophile yourself, because only pedophiles spend that much time thinking about pedophilia.

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  1. Seattle | June 15, 2018
  1. RE Vanella says:

    Not words but action illustrates commitment and character.

    This photo is inspiring. I’ve been there and will be back because theory and words and bipartisan circle jerks never get to the nut of the thing.


    Audere est facere

    How hard did you resist yesterday?

  2. House passed HB 300 and Governor Carney just signed it.

  3. RE Vanella says:

    This is Carney’s dream. He’s probably got some tightness in the front of his trousers right now I bet. Watch out, Tracey!

    Sign the bill. Be a hero. Literally zero cost. Requires no courage. Which is ideal since the Governor possesses none.

    Bans one expensive death toy. The gun manufacturers already have modifications products that’ll do the same fucking thing.

    This is a great drama for people who follow this. I can’t get into it. Flaccid.

    I mean it’s a moral victory over a symbolic gesture. The Delaware Way. Seems like a Blue Delaware topic. I’m sure there’s a great discussion over there…

  4. You’re being too tough there, methinks. HB 300 was a no-brainer. Unfortunately, a no-brainer sponsored it. Should have been done two months ago.

  5. RE Vanella says:

    no-brainer. yeah.

  6. lebay says:

    This is why gun nuts want to get very specific about what’s banned — it gives them a guidebook on how to work around the intent of the laws.

    Is this how every law/rule works? The law or rule itself it its own guidebook on how to get around it. A very specific rule or law is the best rule or law.

    Lawyers have a field day selling BS interpretations of poorly written laws to judges and juries.

  7. RE Vanella says:

    Even calling it “HB 300” gets on my fucking last nerve. Dork jargon. The 2,000 people who know what HB 300 is are cock-a-hoop.

    Solves no problem. It’s a gesture.

    Perfect for Delaware politics.

    We’re framing the Harris campaign, which actually means something, by volume of mass emails and Facebook and backwater quaint campaign expectations…

    Meanwhile we’re jerking each other off to HB 300.

    I have zero faith in most of you. You’re not up for it.

  8. Alby says:

    “Is this how every law/rule works? ”

    Only the ones that try to curb would-be lawbreakers who hire lawyers by the gross.

  9. Alby says:

    REV: Using the number makes it easy to look up at the GA website. Saves time.

  10. RE Vanella says:

    In a niche local political blog comment?

    Nah, not buying.

  11. Alby says:

    It’s how I looked it up.

  12. Every day that the General Assembly is in session, we link to the notable bills being considered and to the agendas being considered, which have links of their own.

    I don’t get your point, REV. Should we not cover the General Assembly? Should we only cover the Harris campaign?

  13. Alby says:

    “Lawyers have a field day selling BS interpretations of poorly written laws to judges and juries.”

    If you want to look at the problems with lawyers bamboozling juries, you’ll find most of them involve civil cases.

  14. RE Vanella says:

    You guys don’t get it. I’m bored.

  15. RSE says:

    Should’ve added the “belt loop” amendment.


  16. RE Vanella says:

    That’s how you bump fire, bitches.

  17. puck says:

    RSE makes a compelling argument for a ban on semi-automatic weapons.

  18. RSE says:

    Maybe they should ban lever action also.


  19. Alby says:

    Maybe they should ban everything.

  20. RSE says:

    Maybe we should start looking at the human aspect of this whole gun problem. What does it say about society when the only way to keep people from killing each other off is to remove the means to do so?

    The technology for semi automatic guns has been around since the 1800’s. Many high school students used to drive around all day and go to school with semi automatic riffles in the back windows of their trucks.

    Getting a gun in the US has probably always been a bit too easy , but the guns haven’t changed all that much, the people have.

  21. puck says:

    “the guns haven’t changed all that much, the people have.”

    And which is easier to change?

  22. Alby says:

    “the guns haven’t changed all that much, the people have.”

    If by the people you mean the people who manufacture and advertise guns, then you’re right.

  23. Ben says:

    Human access to guns. You’re SO close.

  24. Alby says:

    He’s just trolling us for the lulz.