The December 28, 2016 Thread

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DR Tucker says no more drama:

Let’s all make a New Year’s Resolution for 2017: no more hand-wringing about why Hillary Clinton didn’t win the Electoral College.

In the days following the dark night of November 8, I have been mystified as to why most Democrats and progressives didn’t come to the obvious conclusion that the Electoral College win of the, shall we say, uncharitable Republican nominee was a fluke, that there was nothing Clinton really could have done to avoid such a fluke, that sometimes stuff happens. Clinton didn’t lose the Electoral College because of identity politics, or because she ran a bad campaign, or because “Make America Great Again” was a more compelling slogan than “Stronger Together.” She lost the Electoral College because Trump got lucky. On any given Election Day, any candidate can beat any other candidate. Democratic self-flagellation is not needed.

Can we also resolve to knock it off with the “Bernie would have beaten Donald” stuff? That’s like arguing that Bill Bradley would have kicked George W. Bush’s rear end in 2000. Sanders supporters are merely speculating when they make this sort of argument; how would Sanders have dealt with the right-wing media infrastructure striking down upon him with great vengeance and furious anger in an general election? Those who insist that Sanders would have stomped on Trump are arguing, in essence, that everyone who voted for Clinton in the Democratic primary made a mistake. Really?

Democrats and progressives should spend their intellectual energy developing strategies to strip the bark off of Donald Trump, not continuing to lament a fluke outcome. If a superior team with a superior coach and a superior quarterback loses the Super Bowl to an inferior team with an inferior coach and an inferior quarterback, and it’s obvious to every spectator watching that the inferior team got lucky, the superior team shouldn’t spend the offseason despondent over the upset loss, but determined to dominate the next season and the playoffs, in order to get another shot at the trophy.

Emphasis mine.

More DR Tucker from the Washington Monthly, this time on what it will be like to hear Donald’s Inaugural:

Democrats and progressives will vomit when they hear the nasty, noxious nonsense that will surely flow like a pipeline from Trump’s mouth: the tax-cut magic, the climate-change denial, the conflation of Islam with ISIS, the call for a new-age nuclear arms race. Trump will have no filter and no censor. It will be the most repulsive inaugural address in United States history. It could also prove to be a galvanizing speech for Trump’s political adversaries: if Trump is explicit about his extremism in a way Reagan and Bush 43 could never be, perhaps it could inspire Democrats and progressives to treat him with the same level of intense scorn Republicans and conservatives treated President Obama–the same level of intense scorn Trump deserves.

The Obamacare repeal and delay plan embraced by Republicans would likely destabilize the state and national insurance exchanges that are a vital part of law, thus causing insurance premiums to skyrocket as a result. Congressional Republicans have a response ready: that the premiums were already spiking because Obamacare is a bad law. S&P says that is incorrect:

We view 2017 as a one-time pricing correction. So although we would expect insurers, on average, to put in another round of premium increases for 2018, the average level of increase requested will be well below the 2017 hike of 25%.

For 2017, we believe the continued pricing correction and network design changes, along with regulatory fine-tuning of ACA rules, will result in closer to break-even results, in aggregate, for the individual market, and more insurers reporting profits in this segment. But most will remain below their target profitability levels (low single-digit margins for the Blues) in 2017. It will take another year or two of continued improvements to get to that target.

Alana Semuels of the Atlantic went to Elkhart, Indiana (Republican territory) to understand why the economic boom they experienced during the Obama years didn’t change their politics.

Elkhart is a case study in how Democrats lost the 2016 elections despite the economic resurgence the country experienced under Obama. It shows how, in an increasingly polarized country, an improving economy is not enough to get Republicans to vote for Democrats, in part because they don’t give Democrats any credit for fixing the economy…

Indeed, as the economy began improving, Elkhart voters grew less likely to support Democratic candidates for president. Obama won 44 percent of the vote in Elkhart County in 2008, 36 percent in 2012, and Clinton received just 31 percent in 2016…

Andi Ermes, 39, offered a number of reasons for disliking Obama. She said Obama didn’t attend the Army-Navy football game, even though other presidents had. Obama has actually attended more Army-Navy games than George H.W. Bush. She said that he had taken too many vacations. He has taken fewer vacation days that George W. Bush. She also said that he refused to wear a flag pin on his lapel. While it is true that Obama did not wear a flag on his lapel at points during the 2007 campaign, it was back on his suit by 2008. Ermes told me the news sources she consumes most are Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, and a local conservative radio show hosted by Casey Hendrickson.

Perhaps unsurprisingly, Ermes sees the biggest signs for hope in the economy in Carrier deal struck by Donald Trump, which will keep 1,000 jobs in the U.S. “He’s not even president yet and already he’s helping the economy,” she said.

This is a warning sign to those who think winning back racist white working class voters is now the sole mission of all liberals and Democrats. It won’t work.

Click on this and read this whole series of tweets from Anne Theriault.

Catherine Rampell of the Washington Post asks “Trump is being handed a great economy. What happens when it goes south?”

So, what happens when the numbers turn against him? Three consequences seem likely.

One, the administration will start searching for scapegoats other than Trump’s own party and its choices. Immigrants, minorities, Fed officials: Watch out.

Two, assuming Trump will have already signed a major fiscal stimulus package during an expansion, there won’t be much powder left in the keg when Keynesian stimulus is actually needed. That is, fiscal tools available to mitigate the recession will be unusually limited.

And three, the numbers will become suspect once again, and Trump may even try to mess with the official government numbers to suit his narrative. This — and not a recession, blame-gaming or impotent policy response — would cause the most enduring damage to our democracy.

The numbers will go so if he pursues his 10% tariff policy. We’ll be in a recession in 2018. Perfect timing.

The Business Insider reminds us that things you think we know you really don’t:

An examination of the exit polls in three key states that helped swing the election Trump’s way revealed that the economy was by far the most important issue to votes. But those who reported the economy as their top issue — at least in the abstract — believed that Clinton had a stronger message.

In Michigan, 52% of voters said the economy was “most important issue facing the country,” compared to 60% of voters who said the same thing about the economy in 2012. This year, Clinton won by 6 points among people who reported that the economy was the most important issue, while Obama only won on that issue by 3 points.

In Pennsylvania, Clinton won by 4 points among the 56% of voters who reported that the economy was most important issue facing the country. In 2012, Romney won by 5 points among the 61% of voters concerned most about the economy.

The results were even more stark in Wisconsin. While about the same percentage of voters said the economy was the “most important issue facing the country” in 2016 and 2012 — 55% and 56%, respectively — Clinton won those voters by 11 points, while Romney won on the issue by a single point in 2012.

I think the number one danger facing Democrats right now is over interpreting the results. Like DR Tucker stated above, I have come to the conclusion that this election was an aberration. If Biden had been the candidate, he would have won and if Comey didn’t send the letter, Hillary would have won (Bernie is a harder hypothetical to prove because the whole socialism/taxes thing would have hurt him more, and the election would have been fought over much different issues, but I am now thinking even Bernie would have won too).

And yes, I know I am breaking DR Tucker’s rule above in still talking about the election. It is a hard habit to break.

The New York Times: “President-elect Donald J. Trump has packed his cabinet with nominees who dispute the science of global warming. He has signaled he will withdraw the United States from the Paris climate agreement. He has belittled the notion of global warming and attacked policies intended to combat it.”

“But California — a state that has for 50 years been a leader in environmental advocacy — is about to step unto the breach. In a show of defiance, Gov. Jerry Brown, a Democrat, and legislative leaders said they would work directly with other nations and states to defend and strengthen what were already far and away the most aggressive policies to fight climate change in the nation. That includes a legislatively mandated target of reducing carbon emissions in California to 40 percent below 1990 levels by 2030.”

Politico says Trump rewards his donors: “Donors also represent 39 percent of the 119 people Trump reportedly considered for high-level government posts, and 38 percent of those he eventually picked, according to the analysis, which counted candidates named by the transition and in news reports.”

“While campaign donors often are tapped to fill comfy diplomatic posts across the globe, the extent to which donors are stocking Trump’s administration is unparalleled in modern presidential history, due in part to the Supreme Court decisions that loosened restrictions on campaign contributions, according to three longtime campaign experts.”

The New York Times on the delusions of a fat governor from New Jersey: “Once considered the Republican Party’s best hope to win the White House, Mr. Christie has endured months of humiliation after he dropped out of the presidential race and endorsed Mr. Trump — who mocked him as they campaigned together for eating too many Oreos, and passed him over as the vice-presidential nominee. Now, Mr. Christie has returned to New Jersey a lame duck in his last year to discover voters angry over his absences and a Legislature suddenly unwilling to go along with his agenda.”

“Mr. Christie still believes he has a political future nationally. He wants to write a book and his friends have been telling people in New Jersey that the governor expects Mr. Trump to eventually come around to him. According to their scenario, the White House management team of Jared Kushner, Stephen K. Bannon and Reince Priebus will be a disaster and Mr. Christie will be tapped as the skilled manager, like David Gergen, the former aide to Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan who swooped in to steady Bill Clinton’s administration after a raucous first year.”

In a year’s time, Christie will be both out of office and indicted.

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  1. Delaware Dem says:

    All of that above is not to say that Hillary Clinton was a great candidate. She was, in retrospect, both a bad candidate and the wrong candidate for the moment, and a candidate with a horrible campaign that had a horrible strategy and was premised with bad information and voter models. Indeed, it is amazing to me in spite of all of that, she won the popular vote and was 80,000 votes away from winning the electoral college.

  2. puck says:

    “Trump is being handed a great economy. What happens when it goes south?”

    Tax cuts wil create unprecedented deficits, which will be blamed on Obama’s spending, which will be used to make the case for drastic cuts in social spending (but not military spending).

  3. anonymous says:

    @puck: I agree, that will be their strategy. But it will only work on people like the lady from Indiana, who get their “information” from unreliable sources. There’s only so much you can blame on people who hold no offices, because there are none of them left to kick out.

    @DD: The data showing that far more people stayed home than switched votes from Obama to Trump shows the real problem with the campaign was a lack of positive enthusiasm.

  4. anonymous says:

    Les Leopold at Salon says we need to ditch the term “white working class,” pointing out that there’s no such thing anymore, at least as a race-separate category:

    “When we invent the white working class, we whitewash an increasingly diverse manufacturing workforce. Take the workforce at Carrier, which is in the news because of Trump’s effort to prevent its jobs from moving to Mexico. Isn’t it a perfect example of a beleaguered and declining white working class in Indiana, looking to Trump for help?

    “No, the Carrier workforce is 50 percent African-American. Half of the assembly line workers are women. Burmese immigrants make up 10 percent of the employees.

    “Drop the dubious “white working class” construction and we’ll see that Porter is asking the wrong question. It’s not whether the imagined white working class voted for its own economic interests by voting for Trump.

    “Rather, the real question is this: Is it even possible for working people of all kinds to vote their economic interests given the corporate orientation of both parties?”

  5. mouse says:

    I heard one the Sussex County legislators is bringing Carney to his open public meeting but I can’t find anything about it. Anyone know where I can?

  6. RE Vanella says:

    Consider it was the tip of the iceberg that did the Titanic.

    http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/2016/12/28/kennedy-fried-chicken-resists-removal-bpg/95911830/

    Genuine character isn’t a good brand for that 18 to 35 cohort.

  7. meatball says:

    My take away from the RE Vanella article.

    “It’s for the people with the money. They’re saying, ‘forget the middle and low class,'” she said. “I used to think it was about black and white, but I don’t anymore. It’s all about money… It’s a real letdown for us.”

    The quote is from a black 60 year old presumably, life long Wilmingtonian. She lived through the occupation.

    It doesn’t have to be either/or, here in Tampa its pretty much the norm to have a $20 pp lunch spot next to a food truck next to a 7-11 next to a mom pop grocery store that sells fried chicken, lotto, and 25oz cans of budweiser followed by several more $20pp lunch spots. Wilmington is a weird place.

  8. puck says:

    “here in Tampa its pretty much the norm to have a $20 pp lunch spot next to a food truck next to a 7-11 next to a mom pop grocery store that sells fried chicken, lotto, and 25oz cans of budweiser followed by several more $20pp lunch spots. ”

    I don’t know Tampa, but what you described is a neighborhood in transition.

  9. meatball says:

    @ puck

    lol, yep for the past 100 years. Columbia Restaurant opened in Ybor in 1919. Ybor has waxed and waned between working class, higher class, low class to present day rough around the edges party town.

    Berns Steakhouse opened in 1923, though I believe that neighborhood has always been fairly affluent, even though a toll road runs right through it.

    Mise en Place born in 1986, lies along west Kennedy BLVD, through the heart of the city and was the example I initially thought of since the gas station that serves fried chicken and fish is practically right next door.

    Those are all high end examples and restaurants come and go all the time. Things change.

    The difference is that the Wilmington restaurant from the article has been in business for 20 years, is successful, pays the lease, wants to continue at their present location, except they can’t because of gentrification.