The October 29, 2016 Thread

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NATIONAL–ABC News Tracking–CLINTON 50, Trump 45
NATIONAL–St. Leo. Univ.–CLINTON 46, Trump 35
PENNSYLVANIA–Emerson–CLINTON 48, Trump 43
NEW HAMPSHIRE–Emerson–CLINTON 46, Trump 43
VIRGINIA–Christoper Newport Univ.–CLINTON 46, Trump 39
MICHIGAN–Emerson–CLINTON 50, Trump 43
PENNSYLVANIA–Muhlenberg–CLINTON 45, Trump 39
FLORIDA–St. Leo Univ.–CLINTON 50, Trump 37
FLORIDA–PPP–CLINTON 48, Trump 44

“More Americans than at any time in Barack Obama’s presidency now say that things in the United States are going well, a sharp uptick in positive views and the best reviews of the country’s trajectory since January 2007,” according to the latest CNN/ORC poll.

“Overall, 54% say things in the country today are going well, 46% badly.”

Gross domestic product, a broad measure of goods and services produced across the economy, expanded at an inflation- and seasonally adjusted 2.9% annual rate in the third quarter, the Commerce Department said Friday. That was stronger growth than the second quarter’s pace of 1.4%. Economists surveyed by The Wall Street Journal expected growth at a 2.5% pace for the July-to-September period.Last quarter’s growth rate was the fastest recorded in two years.
The Wall Street Journal’s headline for this story was even more emphatic: “U.S. Economy Roars Back, Grew 2.9% in Third Quarter.”

After all we’ve seen over the last year when it comes to the topic of Hillary Clinton and emails, we should have learned to avoid the media freak-out when something new pops up. It almost always turns into a big nothingburger, as it did yesterday. To review, the new emails:

1. Were not from Hillary
2. Were not from her private server
3. Were not from her investigation
4. Were not withheld from the FBI by Clinton
5. Were found on a computer seized during an investigation of former Rep. Anthony Weiner

Indeed, as the Los Angeles Times and other outlets have reported, they are all likely duplicates. So what we have is a Republican FBI Director who decided to interfere in the election, and Republican Chairman Jason Chaffetz who mischaracterized Comeys’ letter in leaking it to the press (reopening criminal investigation of Hillary, which is false). The result of all this is that Comey is gone. He will be fired for cause after the election by either Obama or Clinton. He no longer has the trust of the Administration. The other affect of this is that Democrats and Hillary supporters are now pissed and no longer complacent. More motivation to vote.

Here is Clinton campaign manager John Podesta’s statement in response to Comey’s letter:

Upon completing this investigation more than three months ago, FBI Director Comey declared no reasonable prosecutor would move forward with a case like this and added that it was not even a close call. In the months since, Donald Trump and his Republican allies have been baselessly second-guessing the FBI and, in both public and private, browbeating the career officials there to revisit their conclusion in a desperate attempt to harm Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign.

FBI Director Comey should immediately provide the American public more information than is contained in the letter he sent to eight Republican committee chairmen. Already, we have seen characterizations that the FBI is “reopening” an investigation but Comey’s words do not match that characterization. Director Comey’s letter refers to emails that came to light in an unrelated case, but we have no idea what those emails are and the Director himself notes they may not even be significant.

It is extraordinary that we would see something like this just 11 days out from a presidential election.

The Director owes it to the American people to immediately provide the full details of what he is now examining. We are confident this will not produce any conclusions different from the one the FBI reached in July.

Politico says Hillary can no longer coast towards the finish line: “Dashed are the hopes that the campaign could come to a conclusion on a high note, instilling in Americans a feeling that casting a history-making vote for Clinton is something more than merely a repudiation of Donald Trump.”

“Instead, Clinton is finding herself once again burdened by the twin scandals that have hung over her campaign since before she had a campaign — and devastating her image as an honest and trustworthy leader, even as she tried to make the case that she is the most experienced modern-day candidate for president, and the only option in the race who is responsible enough to handle the nuclear codes.”

Which is fine, since Hillary has never been good at coasting.

Ed Kilgore: “Assuming there is nothing literally incriminating in the emails (or nothing that will come out before election day, anyway), the scariest thing for the Clinton campaign involves the conventional wisdom that the candidate who can best avoid media attention down the stretch is likeliest to win. In a contest where both candidates are unpopular, the reasoning goes, you don’t want voters to head to the polls freshly reminded of what they most dislike about you.”

“The final week or so of the campaign looked like it would be dominated by ever-more-shrill statements by Donald Trump about rigged elections and the women peddling ‘fake’ accusations of sexual misconduct against him. The spotlight had largely focused away from Clinton, aside from thoughts about the prospect of her breaking the glass ceiling, which even a fair number of the people intending to vote against her might appreciate. That’s now changed, for the moment at least.”

“But the underlying ‘story’ of the emails isn’t some sort of bombshell, and the odds are that the negative attention and any lingering substantive concerns among voters will be too little, too late to make much of a difference.”

Catherine Rampell: “The end of a principled, intellectually coherent, organizationally robust center-right party is bad for democracy. It’s also bad for Democrats, given some of the dumb ideas flourishing on the left that desperately need a thoughtful counterweight.”

“But even on priorities on which liberals are likely to make progress, the lack of an honest, articulate, respected adversary is troubling. That’s because liberals need a worthy intellectual rival to sharpen their thinking and keep their own bad ideas in check. Right now a number of bad ideas booming on the left need a credible, coherent, megaphoned rebuttal. These are ideas that may sound nice and perhaps appear helpful. But pursuing many of them would be, at best, irrelevant and ineffective, a waste of time and resources; at worst, they would be actively harmful to the marginalized groups that bleeding-heart liberals claim to champion.”

Politico: “This election, the conventional wisdom goes, has done tremendous damage to the American body politic, but nowhere is the damage as severe as it is inside the party that nominated the wrecking ball known as Donald Trump. Now the party of Ronald Reagan is being led by a man with no discernible ideological leanings, save for an affinity with some of history’s ugliest. In the face of mounting evidence that Hillary Clinton is set to dominate the electoral map on November 8, Republicans across the right side of the spectrum recognize there’s defeat coming. And behind the scenes, in conversations and closed-door venues—the Hoover gathering was not open to the public—the people who once considered themselves the heart, or at least the head, of the party have begun a very pessimistic reckoning.”

“As yet there seems to be no coherent vision for what kind of future November 9 brings for the Republican Party—or, for that matter, if there will even be a Republican Party they could support.”

Joe Klein: “We are about to experience a radical change in American politics: a woman may well be our next President. It’s a transformation that’s been lost in the roil of the campaign. Clinton is so familiar a character that she has been disaggregated from her gender. She is the experienced candidate, the status quo candidate, the Establishment candidate; she is the awkward, slippery, morally challenged candidate.”

“All true, but she is also a woman—and women are different from men…. when you think about it, having an intellectually mature and experienced President would be a seismic shift away from the long run of ‘outsiders’ in the oval office. And guys, if you don’t believe that having a female President would be a dramatic rupture from male governance, well, your wives probably have a list of reasons why it would.”

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  1. puck says:

    “The Wall Street Journal’s headline for this story was even more emphatic: “U.S. Economy Roars Back, Grew 2.9% in Third Quarter.””

    GDP growth is better than the alternative. But we should know by now that until we un-rig the economy, gains in GDP growth go to the top brackets. Job growth and wage growth remains lukewarm, and the labor market still belongs to employers. Employers know they have more applicants than they want or need. There are so many people available for work employers can’t be bothered to read resumes and use robotic scanners instead. Quits rate and wages are just barely back to 2008 levels. We’ll know the labor market has improved when employers start complaining about having to increase pay to keep enough workers. The Fed is also watching the labor market, which is probably the only thing keeping them from raising interest rates.

  2. Rufus Y. Kneedog says:

    Whenever I start to feel sorry for myself about my job, I’ll just have to remember that some poor FBI agent has to wade through Anthony Weiner’s emails and texts.

  3. This strikes me as James Comey’s Alexander Haig moment. The word ‘choke’ comes to mind.

  4. puck says:

    Comey just assured himself of a job in a Trump adminstration.

  5. Jenr says:

    Why didn’t HRC’s closest aide comply with the FBI’s investigation? Likely because of her husband and his activities. However, when they ask for every device, you give them every device. If we were talking about an R, we would hold the person responsible for the actions of their closest aide. I will never vote for Donald Trump but can’t we ever blame the Clinton campaign and her organization. They should have turned over everything in the beginning but they didn’t. They deleted emails and more. They left themselves open. Most likely HRC will be our next President. If this ends up costing her the election, blame the Clinton team (not the FBI or anyone else) for the harm they have done to our country by allowing Trump to win.

  6. puck says:

    Even worse than the Comey letter was the Clinton campaign’s panicky reaction to it.

  7. Delaware Dem says:

    panicky reaction? The only panicky was on the part of the media. I think finally the Clinton campaign finally had a good reaction to it, which was to appear in front of the media and demand full release of everything now. Which is what we need.

    And Jenr, we don’t know that Huma didn’t comply. Remember how gmail and yahoo accounts work. You can access them from any computer via a web browser. And when you do that, copies of those emails are left behind in your cache on the hard drive. So the fact is she probably has already turned over all of these emails, and these new ones are duplicates.

  8. pandora says:

    Hillary Clinton goes in front of the media and asks for a full release = panicky reaction

    I’m so done.

  9. Jenr says:

    They may be duplicates but I believe the request was for all devices as well. That is why the FBI had agreed to destroy devices of various aides after the investigation. Also, is anyone else worried that Comey knows something more or he doesn’t send that letter?

  10. Dave says:

    “We don’t know what this means yet except that it’s a real bombshell.”
    “you give them every device”

    Sure it’s a bombshell. The emails were not to or from Clinton, did not come from her server, and were not on her machine.

    I suppose she could have tried to turn over every machine in the nation that contains an email that mentions Clinton, but she has been around for many years AND she doesn’t own every device.

    But heck, I’m sure one my devices mentions Clinton in an email, since I was in government in the 90s. Maybe she should ask me to borrow it to turn over as well?

  11. anonymous says:

    The entire “scandal” hinges on the idea that “someone could have stolen our secrets!”

    Yet if there’s anything we’ve learned from Wikileaks over the years, it’s that many of our “secrets” aren’t about national security, but about hiding the fact that somebody fucked something up. Remember the first batch of released documents? They caused embarrassment, not a national-security crisis.

    The U.S. “black budget” was last reported at $52.8 billion in 2012. While we pissed away trillions over the years playing spy vs. spy, the U.S. government was taken over by corporate interests who never had to fire a shot.

  12. Jenr says:

    “I suppose she could have tried to turn over every machine in the nation that contains an email that mentions Clinton, but she has been around for many years AND she doesn’t own every device.”

    Wrong she. The she I am referring to is her closest aide. She was asked for every device which she used. That’s not a difficult request. I don’t understand the need to defend the way they have handled this issue. Their handling has left them vulnerable. Right or wrong, HRC is going to held responsible for the actions of her closest aide. I doubt it will but I hope it doesn’t cost her the election. If it does the Clinton team is responsible.

  13. pandora says:

    Wait… isn’t it standard government procedure to destroy all devices? I think this isn’t something new – but confirmation/denial by someone who knows procedure would be great.

    Comey politicized this in July when he felt the need to editorialize. His behavior then and now is unprecedented. He has now inserted himself into the election by violating department rules. It’s probably time for him to step down.

  14. anonymous says:

    How is the Clinton “team” responsible? Seems to me the responsibility for all this is on Clinton herself.

  15. pandora says:

    Hey, when is Comey commenting on the FBI investigation into the Russian hacking and Paul Manafort’s (Trump’s former campaign manager) firm. I mean, if this behavior from Comey is okay… if transparency is important…

  16. Jason330 says:

    Quick poll. Clinton statement. Perfect or merely Great?

  17. puck says:

    I would have preferred to see Clinton shrug it off – “More investigations? Meh… Same old same old, bogus shit never comes to anything.”

    But instead, fifteen minutes after I heard about Comey, I saw Hillary live on all networks with a press conference (I think) about the letter. It doesn’t even matter what she said in the press conference, Hillary made it a BFD and played right into the media frenzy and amplified it.

  18. puck says:

    Loretta Lynch throws Comey an anchor, makes a play to keep her job:

    “Attorney General Loretta Lynch advised FBI Director James Comey not to send a letter to Congress informing them of the discovery of new emails related to the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s private email server, The New Yorker reported early Saturday.”

  19. MarkH says:

    @pandora “Wait… isn’t it standard government procedure to destroy all devices?”

    It’s been about 4 years since I took care of this at the State Government level, but I’d wipe the Blackberries that were used when we switched users/devices. If one wanted to be super cautious :), a sledgehammer would be appropriate (and a little fun).
    Can’t speak for the feds, though

  20. pandora says:

    Thanks, Mark!

    Puck, are you serious? Meh???

  21. Dave says:

    “isn’t it standard government procedure to destroy all devices?”’

    Regarding the feds: No. Or rather it depends. Devices are always wiped. Media is destroyed. Hard storage is sometimes destroyed depending on the program/project/classification. SCI stuff never leaves the compartment unless it is destroyed.

    However, the thousands upon thousands of personal devices that have been and are used are never wiped, but are not supposed to have classified.

    I had a government cell phone which I did not use and government blackberry which I did not use. I didn’t have enough pockets to carry all that equipment. Like everyone else I used my own devices. However, I neither sent nor received any classified information on them. If I had to send or receive classified I went to a secure area and used a secure device.

    But I’ll remind everyone, that many, many federal employees are in situations where there is considerable interfacing between what we call the white world and the black world. This is especially true in State where you are on a world stage with world leadership. It’s real easy for grunts to compartmentalize because they usually live in one world or the other. But folks like Sec State are in the business of integrating information both classified and unclassified and usually walk with one foot in one world and one foot in the other.

  22. anonymous says:

    Not to sound old-school, but whatever happened to the old acid bath?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uZwYg4W7JE

    These two idiots look ready for government work (the fun begins at 9:30 or so), but if they can manage it, why can’t Anthony Weiner?

  23. LimeCherryPie says:

    This is just a quick off-topic comment. I do not see the Dover Post or Delaware State News on the sidebar. Is there any particular reason why? I saw a Q&A from the State Reps candidates of the 33rd and 37th in the Delaware State Newspaper.

  24. Jason330 says:

    If I was Anthonhy Wiener I’d thrown my lap top and phone in the river every 2 weeks.

  25. Dorian Gray says:

    The only thing more frightening than war is rumours of war.

  26. Dana Garrett says:

    Just a few weeks ago Comey was a rare objective and fair minded Republican. Now he’s a monster of iniquity. Nothing a bit partisan in that flip flop.

    So now we’re supposed to be comforted because the emails found in the Anthony Weinar investigation were duplicates. Were they duplicates of emails that Hillary didn’t erase on her server? Or were they ones that she erased on her server and concern matters of state and as such are not duplicates at all? Were any classified before or after the fact and if they were, why did Weinar have access to them? All legitimate questions.

    But let’s address the bigger point. That point is that the Democrats went for Hillary even though this was hanging over her head and it always had the possibility of rearing its head again because emails go at least two ways.

    The only comfort is that Hillary is running against an evident dangerous psychopath. The majority of American people will vote against him. But if almost any other Republican candidate had run against her, they would have won. The irony is Donald Trump may have saved the Democrats backside.

  27. pandora says:

    “That point is that the Democrats went for Hillary even though this was hanging over her head…”

    What is “this”?

    And we didn’t think Comey was a “rare objective and fair minded Republican”. Why would you even think that after how he editorialized his July statement?

  28. Jason330 says:

    I chose Obama over Clinton because I didn’t trust the GOP to call off thier ongoing 25 year witch hunt if she were to be elected. Now I know Republucans for what they are. I know it is going to be all witch hunt all the time no matter what.

  29. Dana Garrett says:

    “What is “this”?” The email investigation and the questions surrounding which emails she erased, their classification, etc.

  30. pandora says:

    Yes, missing emails is a real scandal – just like Bush and co. missing emails were.
    (Via snopes: During the course of a Congressional investigation it was found that many Bush White House staffers (including then-Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove) had conducted official business via private e-mail accounts on a server owned and maintained by the Republican National Committee.)

    Remember these missing emails being a yuuuuge deal? Me either.

    Benghazi is a real scandal – just like the Beirut attack that killed hundreds of US marines, sailors and soldiers. Boy, we really went after Republicans over that one, right?

    Stop buying into Republican talking points. There is no scandal here, especially when you consider the point of Comey’s investigation was intent. But we’ve, yet again, let Republicans lead us around by the nose.

  31. kavips says:

    i don’t think Hillary was ready in 2008. We got the best candidate of that run. Now 8 years later, I’d have to say, we have an even better candidate walking back in through those double doors.

    Thanks to the Republican party bestowed with a higher than average share of idiots, and a media that only caters to the over-70 crowd. Hillary will be walking in through those doors completely clean of any and everything any dirt diggers can possibly find on her… Look Drudge is even pointing to the National Enquirer because there is nothing, nothing, nothing else out there…

    She’s been vetted, and she’s walkin’ in clean… All they can hold her to, is any mistake she makes the next 8 years.. Pretty cool, actually how it all worked out…

  32. chris says:

    When HRC wins, it will be tough to have a President that only 30 percent of the country thinks its honest and trustworthy, according to most polls. the 2018 mid terms will be very rough sailing.. can you say tsunami?

  33. Mitch Crane says:

    Well, Chris, what is new?

    A majority of Republicans still think President Obama is a Muslim, born in Kenya.

    A majority of Democrats still think George W Bush stole the 2000 election

    A majority of Republicans thought (still think) Bill Clinton committed rape, Hillary killed Vince Foster and Bill caused Ron Brown’s plan to come down

    In 1960, a majority of Republicans thought the Pope would run America if JFK were elected.

    From 1933 until the late fifties, Franklin Roosevelt’s name was not allowed to be mentioned in most Republican homes-because he was a “socialist”.

    Not much has changed, except for the 24 hour news cycle.

    I am sure we will find out how HRC governs! Glad for that.

  34. Dana Garrett says:

    Well, Pandora, the missing emails from the Bush presidency and the use of private servers to conduct sensitive business should have been a big deal. And we know exactly why it wasn’t. Because President elect Obama announced that he would not pursue any investigations of what went on during the Bush administration. Not only was that flabbergastingly dumb, it was irresponsible as well.

    But let’s get to the nub of the matter here. Let’s just engage in any sophistry necessary to avoid the stark reality. Those of you who selected Hillary as the preferred candidate did so even though you knew she came with tons of baggage and was less progressive than Sanders. You did it because the Dem status quo said to do it. Now that today’s polls put the race with only 1% difference between Hillary and Donald, ignore it and just clamp down and keep up the denial that this is a huge and was always a highly possible problem just a few days before the election. Do whatever it takes to keep from admitting that you were wrong. The status quo always!

  35. puck says:

    Sorry Dana, Bernie never had a chance. In a head-to-head contest between democratic socialism and trickle-down/tax cuts/deregulation, the Republican wins. America likes its trickle-down tax cuts. His role was to “push Hillary to the left,” and he was only modestly successful, but it was a waste of breath because the election turns out not to be about policy at all.

  36. pandora says:

    I should have known this was about your Bernie obsession.

  37. cassandra_m says:

    Speaking of today’s sophistry:

    Those of you who selected Hillary as the preferred candidate did so even though you knew she came with tons of baggage and was less progressive than Sanders. You did it because the Dem status quo said to do it.

    What you meant to say was that Bernie Sanders couldn’t manage to campaign everywhere and actually lost — by any measure — the Democratic primary. You can still see the sophistry — the steady stream of repeating right-wing talking points about Hillary, the bullshit conspiracy theories about how the Dems undermined him, and the completely lunatic expectation that every Dem primary voter that voted for HRC did so because they were told to.

    It is all just the usual loser bitterness from people who expect their entitlements to be satisfied. You see this the most from the right — the teajhadis who are working out their anger issues over a changing cultural landscape. On the left, the frustration is in basically not having an audience. Which is tough for people who have all of the right answers if only the rest of us would stop letting the establishment tell us how to vote.

    🙄

  38. Jenr says:

    Just because others got away with something doesn’t make it right. She should never have had a private server in the basement of her home. That is why she has this issue. To write-off every issue surrounding the Clintons as right-wing conspiracies doesn’t mean you’re correct. Doesn’t anyone question any of their activities? The Clinton Foundation and Bill Inc? Have they done absolutely nothing which can be called into question? Every candidate has their faults and/or baggage. To fail to recognize them doesn’t mean they don’t exist. I hope she wins but I realize she has vulnerabilities.

  39. cassandra_m says:

    We all realize she has vulnerabilities. Including being subject to a more than 20 year old media narrative that never seems to pan out. One started by the Contract on America crowd and continues to this day. She shouldn’t have had the private server, but this story was over when the State Department’s IG detailed not just her issues with email but issues with email all over that department. Nothing new has come to light after that, except for the conclusion of the FBI’s investigation. The emails are bullshit and the world knew it after the IG’s pretty scathing report. The story stays alive because this is the narrative the media needs.

    New tape came out last week of Trump abusing a woman plus he is going on trial for fraud and rape charges soon. Very few stories on the last two — both of which are material to whether this guy can serve.

  40. pandora says:

    I’ll let John Scalzi take it from here:

    On Liberals/Progressives:

    The stupidest and weakest members of the political triumvirate, they allowed conservatives to turn their name into a slur against them, exposing them as the political equivalent of the kid who lets the school bully pummel him with his own fists (Stop hitting yourself. Stop hitting yourself. Stop hitting yourself). Liberals champion the poor and the weak but do it in such condescendingly bureaucratic ways that the po’ illedumacated Cleti would rather eat their own shotguns than associate with the likes of them. Famously humorless and dour, probably because for a really good liberal, everything is political, and you just can’t joke about things like that.

    Defensive and peevish even when they’re right. Under the impression that people in politics should play fair, which is probably why they get screwed as often as they do (nb: 2000 Presidential election). Feel guilty about the freedoms their political positions allow them, which is frankly idiotic. Liberals are politically able to have all sorts of freaky mammal sex but typically don’t; good liberal foreplay is a permission slip and three layers of impermeable barriers. The only vaguely liberal person we know of who seemed to enjoy sex in the last 30 years is Clinton, and look what he got out of it.

    Fractious and have no sense of loyalty; will publicly tear out the intestines of those closest to them at the most politically inopportune times. The attention spans of poultry; easily distracted from large, useful goals by pointless minutiae. Not only can’t see the forest for the trees, can’t see the trees for the pine needles. Deserve every bad thing that happens to them because they just can’t get their act together. Too bad those they presume to stand for get royally screwed as well.

    If you haven’t read the whole thing, you really should. I can’t think of another post that has better stood the test of time.

  41. Liberal Elite says:

    @DG “Let’s just engage in any sophistry necessary to avoid the stark reality. Those of you who selected Hillary as the preferred candidate did so even though you knew she came with tons of baggage and was less progressive than Sanders. You did it because the Dem status quo said to do it.”

    Pure BS!
    I’ve liked Hillary better for many years. She really is better. And no one told me to like her.

    And if you’ve read any of my posts here during the primary, you’d know that I never thought all that much of Sanders. He’s a cartoon what the progressives need. As a president he’d be totally ineffective (as he is as a senator).

    Sanders is a talker, Hillary actually gets things done. There’s a lot to like in that smart hardworking woman.

  42. Dana Garrett says:

    “the bullshit conspiracy theories about how the Dems undermined him…”

    Lol. And DWS lost the chairpersonshop over an unfounded conspiracy theory.

  43. mouse says:

    Super dedicates create momentum in early primaries. People like to vote for the perceived winner.

  44. puck says:

    “Hillary actually gets things done. ”

    Dumbest rallying cry ever.

  45. Ben says:

    I see we’re setting up the post-Trump-victory circular firing squad.

  46. mouse says:

    It’s frightening how possible a Trump win could be. People don’t seem to recognize psychopathy and I can’t remember what sophistry means lol

  47. Ben says:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-vote-twice_us_5816ad80e4b0990edc31e17f His brownshirts are already following orders to vote twice. After he wins, because of massive voter fraud, the Right will use our own “voter fraud is insanely rare” argument against us. We’re all doomed.

  48. cassandra_m says:

    Lol. And DWS lost the chairpersonshop over an unfounded conspiracy theory.

    Actually, no. She lost her job because it was convenient. She was always controversial, not an especially good DNC chair and it was time for HRC to start taking over the organization. Letting her go was a good move to deflect the incoming from the left. If she or anyone at the DNC could have been credibly linked to doing anything to undermine Bernie’s campaign, that would have been a thing. A thing big enough for the Karl Rove PAC funding recycled HRC bullshit pointed at Bernie supporters to have funded a lawsuit. But no one files a lawsuit over email spitballing. And no one misses her as DNC chair, either.

  49. Dana Garrett says:

    “I see we’re setting up the post-Trump-victory circular firing squad.”

    If Trump wins, there will be no analysis within the Democratic Party status quo and its lackeys that will question their privileged status and “inerrancy.” Funny, though, if Trump should win, the status quo Dems will never ask themselves how could we have nominated someone who couldn’t even beat a train wreck like Donald Trump. Notice how they don’t question that now when with just one week to go the polls have the race as close. It’s all denial in order to keep from changing.

  50. Dana Garrett says:

    “Actually, no. She lost her job because it was convenient.”

    Notice how much straining is going on here to preserve the official line of denial. We are expected to believe that it was “convenient” to change the party chairperson at the very BEGINNING of the convention. It was a colossal embarrassment and the news played it as such. But let’s not that keep us from denial.

  51. Ben says:

    If Trump wins, the 2 party system is dead…. along with our nation. There wont be much need for analysis.

  52. mouse says:

    And I think the statute of limitations is running out on the narrative that says look at those nutty racist republicans not at us..

  53. cassandra_m says:

    We are expected to believe that it was “convenient” to change the party chairperson at the very BEGINNING of the convention. It was a colossal embarrassment and the news played it as such.

    Because the CNN chyrons are ohsocredible. DWS was baggage for the Dems long before those emails came out. And if you were smarter about the DNC operates, you’d get that she wasn’t long for this world as HRC took over the party. The emails were an embarrassment for a day or two. Once the convention got going, no one cared anymore. Except for the resentment left. So move along now. This is a scab that doesn’t even exist anymore.

  54. mouse says:

    If it wasn’t for the “resentment left” who have no where else to go, the Democrats would win far fewer elections

  55. bobsmith says:

    The long arm of the law.

    You can’t escape the long arm of the law the police will catch you if you have done something illegal.

    If anyone on this website, did what she or her staff members did they would be in jail.

  56. cassandra_m says:

    Probably not, but thanks for playing.

    The State Department IG, the FBI — if there was something the long arm of the law could get her for, they would have done it.

  57. Mitch Crane says:

    How about the grammar police, bobsmith? A period comes after “police” and then you capitalize “The” to start the next sentence. Then a comma comes after “staff members”, not after “website”.

    Before I became a lawyer, I was an English teacher. Sadly, knowledge of either is not a requirement to opine on a blog.

    Have a nice day and don’t forget to vote on Novemebr 18th.

  58. Jason330 says:

    Lol. Burn.

  59. Anono says:

    Pantsuits have deep pockets. LOL, like that one Jason???

  60. Bobsmith6019 says:

    Mitch,. Thank you, for the correction. Now I know why I didn’t vote for you!