Some profiling I could support

Filed in National by on October 4, 2015

We don’t need to stop everybody from buying guns. Just preventing white males (between the age of 15 and 30 who talk about guns a lot) from buying them would work. Here are the questions suggested by Josh Marshall.

Our latest gun massacre raises the troubling effectiveness of the possible use of profiling to limit access to fire arms …

1. Are you a man?

2. Are you white?

3. Are you between the ages of 15 and 30?

4. Are you currently in a mutually satisfying romantic relationship?

5. Do you feel alone?

6. Do you feel angry?

7. Do you frequently visit 4chan?

8. Do you spend a substantial part of every day thinking about firearms?

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  1. pandora says:

    This will never happen, altho it probably should. White men demand to be seen as individuals. White shooters are lone wolves. If all these shootings were being done by Asian women you can bet your house that we would be discussing the Asian culture and women. Now try this same experiment with black men, Muslims, homosexuals or even white women. See what I mean? Any other group, besides white men, would be torn apart and everyone in those groups would be blamed and held responsible.

  2. puck says:

    That is essentially how we price auto insurance.

  3. Liberal Elite says:

    @p “That is essentially how we price auto insurance.”

    Then let’s just make gun liability insurance mandatory.

    Pricing alone will weed out the most dangerous ones.

  4. Steve Newton says:

    LE guess you’ve never seen the stats on how many uninsured motorists are driving around illegally?

  5. puck says:

    “Then let’s just make gun liability insurance mandatory.”

    I like that idea a lot, but I also don’t want a situation where only the rich can afford guns. Anyway it is currently not possible until the Second Amendment is reinterpreted.

    There’s a comment going around that we should treat people who want to obtain a gun the way we treat women who want to obtain an abortion. Both are Constitutionally protected activities, and both should be subject to limited restrictions.

  6. bamboozer says:

    I’d love to see mandatory insurance for guns! But I also have a clinically insane brother who had lots of guns & ammo before the police and mental illness court took them away. He’s also a lot older than 30 but otherwise fits the description. It took a year of near constant police contact, very old neighbors up in arms (and in my face) and the slow process of the courts. When it was over I found another pistol the police had missed and enough bullets to fill one of those cans fruitcake comes in, surrendered to the local police dept. Also found lots of NRA literature (he was a member in good standing) as well an assortment of “free gifts” with their logo on them. Currently he’s “on the run” in his own words, where I don’t know but he’ll turn up and I’ll get a phone call. What’s the point here? It’s going to take a lot more than minor hurdles and the occasional back round check to stop this problem, and there are a lot more potential shooters out there than you might think. A rapid response to mental illness and guns would be a good start, but much more is needed.

  7. Dorian Gray says:

    I’ve been arguing for treating gun ownership like automobiles as well. License, heavy insurance and registration that requires renewal ever one or two years.

    Yes, many drive without insurance or even a license, but this argument seems like the old shoulder shrug. Like, yeah we have laws now that don’t work so why have a new laws. “It’s about enforcement!” No, it isn’t. It’s the argument of a dumb person. We already know this, but we pretend like we don’t.

    Americans have been conditioned to believe that any encroachment on their individual “freedom” to do whatever they want to ensure the safety or well-being of the group is anathema. This is a lie. The need to satisfy our person fantasies and fetishes supersedes the decisions we need to make to live in close proximity with one another in some sort of peaceful way. There’s like 325 million of us but we act like every individual is an island. The American idea doesn’t match the reality of how we must exist.

    It’s a bad mind set. Same problem with the police. The mindset is that the cops are at war with an enemy (the criminal) when actually the fuzz should be our partners is civil security.

  8. pandora says:

    Wanna hear something frightening? I could go out today and buy a gun. There’s no way I should own a gun, they terrify me and deserve the utmost respect and precaution. People that refuse to respect the purpose of a gun and don’t take necessary precautions because they know what they’re doing shouldn’t own a gun. Sheesh, people put more thought into buying household cleaners then they do in buying a gun.

    And that’s a big problem. Gunners see themselves as the exception – the exceptional? They see themselves as smarter than us non-gun owners and fantasize about the day when they use their gun to save us and then we’ll not only have to admit they were right, but how awesome and manly they really are.

  9. kavips says:

    Pretty easy to control guns. Do this:

    A man must receive state-directed counseling that includes information designed to discourage him from having an gun and then wait 24 hours before the sale is approved..
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    The use of online purchases for any ammunition or gun is prohibited.

    The parent of a minor must consent and be notified before a gun is provided.

    A man must undergo an MRI or CT brain scan before obtaining an firearm

    The seller must show the buyer cadavers killed by guns and describe images of bullets ripping apart flesh and impacting bone.

    If the man lives within 100 miles of the gun seller he must obtain the mental illness scan at least 24 hours before being allowed to purchase.

    Close down all gun shows that are not run by hospital emergency technicians and make people have to drive hundreds of miles if they still wish to buy a gun…

  10. Dorian Gray says:

    From this morning’s NY Times:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/06/us/mother-of-oregon-gunman-wrote-of-keeping-firearms.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=mini-moth&region=top-stories-below&WT.nav=top-stories-below&_r=0

    As usual the gun fetishist mentality runs into the statistical reality.

    “In an online forum, answering a question about state gun laws several years ago, Ms. Harper [the shooter’s mother] took a jab at ‘lame states’ that impose limits on keeping loaded firearms in the home, and noted that she had AR-15 and AK-47 semiautomatic rifles, along with a Glock handgun. She also indicated that her son, who lived with her, was well versed in guns, citing him as her source of information on gun laws, saying he ‘has much knowledge in this field.’

    ‘I keep two full mags in my Glock case. And the ARs & AKs all have loaded mags,’ Ms. Harper wrote. ‘No one will be “dropping” by my house uninvited without acknowledgement.'”

    She sure showed them.