The Iran deal reveals the disgusting state of the Democrat (sic) Party
Thanks to DC based Democrat consultants and other Democratic chickenshits like John Carney, Chris Coons and Tom Carper, I have to read stuff like this:
The Iran deal now moves to Congress for review and approval. Since Republicans control both chambers and are predisposed to hate the deal, what will likely happen is they’ll vote to block the removal of sanctions on Iran, and Obama will veto that resolution. The question is whether Republicans can round up enough Democratic support to override Obama’s veto in both houses (it is unlikely this would happen).
But the Republicans will nonetheless try to extract political benefit from all this by saying very mean things about the president “appeasing” the terrorists and attacking Democrats for supporting him. Vox’s Jonathan Allen took the temperature of a few Hill Democrats to get a sense of where things stand, and, predictably, they’re scared that voters will punish them for backing Obama and his diplomatic engagement. As such, they’re looking for ways to duck the issue and keep their fingerprints off it:
One House Democrat who is generally supportive of the president — and open to the deal — expressed hope Tuesday that the Senate would sustain an Obama veto of legislation blocking the deal so that House Democrats wouldn’t have to vote on it at all. It’s easier for Obama to round up 34 senators than 146 House Democrats, the lawmaker argued — even though conventional wisdom holds that the opposite is true.
Thus, the Democrats continued their proud tradition of ceding national security arguments to Republicans because they’re afraid they’ll look “weak.”
There is an alternative to this weak ass shit, but I doubt that our congressional delegation has the guts or vision to grasp it. Especially, sadly, Chris Coons who is building his brand as a bloodthirsty hawk, in contrast to Carney who markets himself as a more traditional “If Republicans say it is okay…” type Dem.
Anyway… Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn. Murphy has been laying the groundwork for a Demo position with a little more backbone:
“Republicans simply don’t acknowledge the legitimacy of diplomacy as a tool of American power,” “Democrats have to make a loud, passionate case for diplomacy as part of the way we keep ourselves safe. This is going to be the seminal diplomatic achievement of this administration. It will provide us with our best opportunity to make a case for diplomatic engagement with the rest of the world.”
i’ve said it before and I’ll say it again…it’s because the Dems are on the same side as the GOP. They are beholden to almost the exact same people and industries. They don’t rally around shit because it would upset their donors.
It’s times like these that they get exposed to who they really serve.
I hate them
C’mon, brother. You know round here you suppose to support the lesser of two evils. (And there’s still some confusion about why people don’t vote!)
I saw Carper in the coffee shop the other day. I wanted to confront him, but he looks so stupid and feeble… I’m afraid I’d be accused of elder abuse.
Its a shame those 3 spineless excuses for humans never spent significant time near the DAFB morgue during the Iraq war. Seeing those big jets parked at that end of the base was a sad sight because you knew what was happening.
That is the alternative to diplomacy in this case
Everyone of these guys last name is C and that means corporate. The bad part about this is they are no different from the Koch-Roaches or the Fox-Roaches supported by fake union officials that’s been hanging around like an unwanted mother-in-law.
That checks out. The Democratic Party was once the party of “the working man” but Bill Clinton took an axe to that iteration of it. With unions all but washed up as a force, there is no political entity left to advance the concerns of the middle class and poor. Certainly not in Delaware anyway.
Sorry in advance of jumping the thread here, but I had an epiphany today. It was over remembering Dean 2004. Dean’s early departure was heartbreaking for some. But the legacy he left behind is awesome, and set the tone for a lot of these past 6 years.
In Delaware, the people he left behind, still provide input into policy today, both directly and indirectly. One of the reasons Delaware is very blue, is because of a handful of human beings inspired by Dean, didn’t go back into being wallflowers….
So the political landscape of today, may not be what Dean envisioned…. but it is far better BECAUSE of what he envisioned.
And for that reason, I have come to the belief that it is probably the correct thing for all good people at this time, to support the candidacy of Bernie Sanders.
And as adults, to do so, not so much as to go for the win, but to get as many regular people as possible out of a new generation to taste the excitement of politics for the first time, to become enthused with the spirit that was garnered now 12+ years ago by many locals now reading these words.
And Bernie is exciting people, very similar to how Dean did… It is not all the same people, but a similar crowd 20 or more years younger which will begin calling the shots starting after the next election….
Of course this comes from a jaded perspective.. But the best overall way to counter Coons, Carper, Carney is to starve them of money and instead send everything you got over to Bernie…. Because that money will keep working for 20+ more years… not suddenly end at the close of the next term when a more excited contingent of another party wins back those seats.
And I’ll counter the biggest argument against what I proposed: but Bernie can’t win. Dean didn’t win either, but his legacy gave us Obama, who without Dean’s organizational backbone working under him, would never have gotten off the ground in Iowa in 2008 or been a match against the Clinton behemoth for the longest primary season on record. So it stands, and will stand from a historical perspective long after all the vituperative slurs fostered by the 1% have been washed off by time, that Dean’s legacy gave us the best president we have seen in our lifetimes.
Something to consider if you hadn’t already… Bernie as the new Dean… Just sayin’.
Okay, but one condition.
Before I support him, Bernie must vow… He must … SWEAR… HE MUST AFFIRM IN NO UNCERTAIN MOTHERFUCKING TERMS… that he and anyone supporting him will support the Democratic nominee for President, with their money, sweat and creativity.
If he does that, I’m in.
Of course we should all vote for and support Bernie. Right up until the time he drops out and asks you to support Hillary. We aren’t a bunch of damn Naderites, after all. And neither is Bernie
My answer to Jason above would be a simple question. What did Dean do?
Bernie isn’t the new Dean unless he makes a major leap in organizing capability the way that Dean and Obama did. And I support Bernie for now. But let’s not forget the real improvements to infrastructure that Dean and Obama put in place. Without that, support for Bernie never translates into a serious place at the table when the candidate is chosen. Ask John Kerry about that. Or even Hillary Clinton, really.
Hopefully, Trump will have this thing all sewn up by Super Tuesday. Sanders will be a much easier sell when the GOP shoots itself in the toupee
That’s not a toupee, it’s a gale force warning.
Paraphrasing David Letterman.
I’ll vote for Bernie, even if I have to cast a write-in ballot. I was once a Libertarian. I’m accustomed to voting for losers.