Tuesday Open Thread [5.12.15]

Filed in National by on May 12, 2015


Bill Maher ridicules Texans reaction Jade Helm… by ewillies

Yeah, Jebbie is done. Bryon York:

“Is it possible that in 2016, more than a decade after the invasion of Iraq, the Republican party’s presidential nominee could become bogged down in debating whether the war was the right thing to do? The answer, a depressing one for many in the GOP, is yes — if the nominee is Jeb Bush.

Bush’s view of the war is considerably less clear-eyed than that of his brother, former President George W. Bush, the man who ordered the invasion. In his memoir, Decision Points, W. wrestled with the dilemma of his decision to start a war on the basis of bad intelligence. Only W. did not call the intelligence ‘faulty,’ as Jeb had. W. called the intelligence ‘false.’

Jeb’s statement is likely to resonate until he either changes his position or loses the race for the Republican nomination. Should he become the nominee, the issue will dog him into the general election campaign.”

He answered the question in the present tense, with the qualification “knowing what we know now..,” and he still said yes. Then lied and said Hillary would too. Now, younger Bush brother who is somehow dumber than W, Hillary would not still vote for the Iraq War today knowing all that we know now. She voted for it back then, yes. But at least she has the courage to admit to wrong decision, however belatedly.

Charlie Cook: “The battle for control of the Senate is finally underway and if early indications are correct, Republicans can be no more confident that they will keep the majority in the next Congress than Democrats could have been at this point in 2013.”

“In the 2014 cycle, Republicans had every advantage. They had few of their own seats to defend, and they got to run against an unpopular Democratic president and his policies… Now the tables are turned. Republicans are defending 24 seats this cycle, compared to just 10 for Democrats. While President Obama carried all 10 of the Democratic-held seats up this cycle, he also carried seven states with Republican-held seats: Florida (Marco Rubio), Illinois (Mark Kirk), Iowa (Chuck Grassley), New Hampshire (Kelly Ayotte), Ohio (Rob Portman), Pennsylvania (Pat Toomey), and Wisconsin (Ron Johnson).”

Paul Krugman:

Last year the vampires of finance bought themselves a Congress. I know it’s not nice to call them that, but I have my reasons, which I’ll explain in a bit. For now, however, let’s just note that these days Wall Street, which used to split its support between the parties, overwhelmingly favors the G.O.P. And the Republicans who came to power this year are returning the favor by trying to kill Dodd-Frank, the financial reform enacted in 2010.

And why must Dodd-Frank die? Because it’s working.

This statement may surprise progressives who believe that nothing significant has been done to rein in runaway bankers. And it’s true both that reform fell well short of what we really should have done and that it hasn’t yielded obvious, measurable triumphs like the gains in insurance thanks to Obamacare. […]

O.K., why do I call them that? Not because they drain the economy of its lifeblood, although they do: there’s a lot of evidence that oversize, overpaid financial industries — like ours — hurt economic growth and stability. Even the International Monetary Fund agrees. But what really makes the word apt in this context is that the enemies of reform can’t withstand sunlight.

A new AP/GfK poll finds that 56% said the Supreme Court should keep the subsidies without restriction while 39 percent said the financial aid should be limited to residents of states that set up their own health insurance markets. 51 percent wants Congress to amend the law to make it clear that people are entitled to help regardless of what their state leaders do. But 44 percent prefer that Congress leave the law as is and let states decide whether they want to create insurance exchanges that would allow their residents to receive subsidies. The poll found 27 percent of Americans support the law while 38 percent oppose it, and 34 percent say they neither support nor oppose it.

Jonathan Cohn on what this means for the GOP if the Court does strike down the subsidies:

“Republicans keep saying they’ll be ready to act if the Supreme Court upholds the big legal challenge to Obamacare, thereby wiping out financial assistance for millions of people in two-thirds of the states. With the clock ticking down to a ruling, it’s gotten awfully hard to take the GOP’s vows seriously.”

And that is because the choice on health care is more basic than everyone is willing to admit. President Obama passed the market-based conservative Healthcare plan. Obamacare is actually Republicancare. But because a black socialist muslim was proposing it, it had to be opposed until death. And most in the Republican party are fine with that because most really do believe that having health insurance and thus the resultant health care is a privilege for those who can afford it (i.e. the rich), and not a right.

So really the reason there is not Republican alternative is because 1) Obamacare is the Republican alternative and 2) they don’t care if millions can’t now afford health insurance, because if you cannot afford it it means you were not supposed to have it.

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  1. Jason330 says:

    Jeb now says that he misheard the questions and thought the interviewer asked, “not knowing what we know now…”

    Anyway… what an idiot, and to think that he is the “smart” brother.

  2. liberalgeek says:

    The actual phrasing that Jeb used in answering that question makes me think that he really did misunderstand the question:

    “And so would have Hillary Clinton, just to remind everybody. And so would almost everybody that was confronted with the intelligence they got.”

    I’m no Jeb fan, but I think this is a lot of smoke with no fire.

  3. Joanne Christian says:

    Oh please, oh please, oh please, we have a school board election going on here all across the state, and we need highly engaged individuals as yourselves to get the word out to remember to vote. Polls close at 8. No need to be a registered voter, but you are only permitted to vote in the district you live….even though you may choice elsewhere. 18 is the magic age.

    Six way run in Appoquinimink with no incumbent running. From a Nazarene pastor to an Army Colonel (retired) is in the mix, with a paralegal, former Mrs. Delaware, recent grad of Leadership Delaware, and the ol’ broad –me, running for the seat. Your vote is needed in whatever district you live and complain about. Thank you!

  4. fightingbluehen says:

    “Anyway… what an idiot, and to think that he is the “smart” brother.”

    I’m just waiting for the Dems to figure out, and voice their collective justification and rationalization for holding their noses and supporting Hillary, so they can forward the talking points to the parroting minions.

    I’m thinking it will be something like, “we must overlook her sketchiness because she will be an effective leader”. Yeah, that’s it…. Effective….and she’s female.

  5. jason330 says:

    No. “we must overlook her sketchiness because just look at the Republican. Holy shit what a disaster that would be.

    It isn’t a secret. You don’t have to “wait” for what has already been revealed time and time again.

    Jeb Bush is the one who continues to reveal what a weak candidate he is. It is no wonder you avoid that issue. He may well be your candidate.

  6. ben says:

    the more sure FBH is sure of a republican win, the more i know it wont happen.

  7. fightingbluehen says:

    I never said anything about a Republican win, and I don’t support Bush. I still maintain that If the two candidates are Bush and Clinton, then we are all jackasses.
    I do think Bush would be better than Clinton though.

  8. puck says:

    “Sketchiness?” WTF do you mean by that? Is that anything like when Republicans kept saying about Obama, four or five years into his administration, “We really don’t know who this guy is?”

    What wingnut email did you get “sketchiness” from? That must be more of the same coded language, except when you break the code, it’s even more unfounded gibberish.

  9. ben says:

    oh cmon, the Clintons are the Underwoods. they are just “on our side”