Wednesday Open Thread [11.19.14]

Filed in National by on November 19, 2014

Jonathan Chait:

“The legislative dynamics in Washington are very simple. Gridlock exists because Obama and House Republicans cannot agree on legislation. If Obama and the House could agree on legislation, their deal would be approved by a Democratic-controlled Senate or by a Republican-controlled Senate. There are no plausible circumstances in which the Senate would block a deal struck between the House and Obama, because, whichever party controls the Senate, its ideological center will sit comfortably inside in the enormous space between Obama and the House Republicans. Ergo, the party that controls the Senate has no impact on legislative outcomes.”

Brendan Nyhan:

America has again embraced our long history of electoral overreaction. While it’s true that Republicans won a major victory at the polls, the results tell us far less about future elections than some commentary has suggested. Historically, midterm results, which are typically unfavorable to the president’s party, tell us relatively little about the coming presidential election… The record shows that the president’s party can rebound from major losses to win at the polls in two years. Bill Clinton, for instance, bounced back from the 1994 Republican landslide to easily win re-election in 1996. Similarly, President Obama, whose party suffered major losses in 2010, went on to defeat Mitt Romney in 2012, and George Bush won the 1988 election after Republicans suffered major losses in 1986, President Reagan’s sixth year in office.”

A letter to the editor of the Detroit Free Press from a baffled Canadian:

“Many of us Canadians are confused by the U.S. midterm elections. Consider, right now in America, corporate profits are at record highs, the country’s adding 200,000 jobs per month, unemployment is below 6%, U.S. gross national product growth is the best of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) countries. The dollar is at its strongest levels in years, the stock market is near record highs, gasoline prices are falling, there’s no inflation, interest rates are the lowest in 30 years, U.S. oil imports are declining, U.S. oil production is rapidly increasing, the deficit is rapidly declining, and the wealthy are still making astonishing amounts of money.

America is leading the world once again and respected internationally — in sharp contrast to the Bush years. Obama brought soldiers home from Iraq and killed Osama bin Laden.

So, Americans vote for the party that got you into the mess that Obama just dug you out of? This defies reason.

When you are done with Obama, could you send him our way?”

It’s not a zero sum game. It’s not that people who voted for Obama and Democrats before changed their minds and now voted Republican. It’s because those voters didn’t show up to vote. But no, Canada, you can’t have Obama, not until you take back your native son, Ted Cruz.

From Politico:

“Republican leaders have intensified their planning to prevent a government funding showdown, weighing legislative options that would redirect GOP anger at Barack Obama’s expected action on immigration and stave off a political disaster. Speaker John Boehner, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell and their top aides and deputies are mulling several options that would give Capitol Hill Republicans the opportunity to vent their frustration with what they view as an unconstitutional power grab by the White House — without jeopardizing the government financing bill.”

These people sound like insane sociopaths. A need to vent? Really? Jonathan Chait: “That a shutdown gives Republicans any actual leverage, as opposed to imagined leverage, is another right-wing fantasy. It is now fairly well-established that the sole impact of a government shutdown is to make the public hate the party that controls Congress. The gun the conservatives are holding is pointed at their own head.”

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  1. AAuen says:

    When will you guys be doing a post on the House Dems Caucus Race for Speaker, Leader and Whip?

  2. Jason330 says:

    DD – You are misreading the eventual fallout from a government shutdown. Yes – a shutdown is probably inevitable because newly elected GOP senators and congressmen are going to be more influenced by Eric Eriksson and Fox News than they are going to be swayed by John Boehner or Mitch McConnell. No, it will not hurt the GOP.

    Ericson, rightly, says that all the Republicans need to do is ride out the pain and blame everything on Obama. They just had a government shutdown 13 months ago and the Erickson strategy had them picking up a bunch of seat.

  3. Delaware Dem says:

    Obama can ride out the pain too. He doesn’t have any elections coming up.

  4. Jason330 says:

    Good point. Although I doubt he wants to be known as the President that stopped paying Social Security and Veterans benefits for months.