Thursday Open Thread [5.29.14]

Filed in National by on May 29, 2014

Some evil conservatives and crazy Republicans and Libertarians want to reimpose property restrictions on the right to vote, in that you must have to own some kind of property in order to vote. Such a desire is just further evidence that these conservatives, Republicans and Libertarians do not believe in democracy or live by democratic principles. Well, Professor Alexander Keyssar, Stirling Professor of History and Social Policy at Harvard University lays the historic and constitutional smackdown:

Property requirements were, indeed, the norm for the first several decades of our history (as were gender and racial restrictions), but they were overturned almost everywhere by the middle of the nineteenth century.

Why? Because the American people – in one state after another — concluded that property requirements were profoundly undemocratic, that the ownership of property did not endow a person with greater wisdom or judgment, and that people without property had the right to defend and promote their own interests through the ballot box. “If a man can think without property, he can vote without property,” observed a delegate to Louisiana’s constitutional convention of 1845. To link the franchise to property ownership was to undermine the emerging democracy of which Americans were so proud.

Among those who made the case very forcefully were propertyless soldiers and militiamen who were called upon to defend their country in wartime. The “non-freeholders” of Richmond, Virginia, complained that “if the landless citizens have been ignominiously driven from the polls in time of peace, they have at least been generously summoned in war, to the battlefield.” Is the congressman comfortable disfranchising our men in uniform who also fail to own property?

Perhaps the most pungent (and oft-repeated) critique of property requirements came from Benjamin Franklin, writing in an era when farm animals constituted an important form of property:

“Today a man owns a jackass worth fifty dollars and he is entitled to vote; but before the next election the jackass dies. The man in the mean time has become more experienced, his knowledge of the principles of government, and his acquaintance with mankind, are more extensive, and he is therefore better qualified to make a proper selection of rulers-but the jackass is dead and the man cannot vote. Now gentlemen, pray inform me, in whom is the right of suffrage? In the man or in the jackass?”

And oh yes: the Supreme Court in 1966 ruled that any financial requirements for voting were unconstitutional.

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  1. Steve Newton says:

    Uh, exactly where would you find Libertarians trying to impose property requirements on voting? It’s certainly not in the article you linked to. Nor is it in the Libertarian Party platform, nor to my knowledge has it been advocated by any Libertarian candidate.

    (And, please, don’t try the “libertarian-leaning” trick to name somebody like Rand Paul or Ted Cruz or Justin Cruz as Libertarian.)

  2. cassandra m says:

    (And, please, don’t try the “libertarian-leaning” trick to name somebody like Rand Paul or Ted Cruz or Justin Cruz as Libertarian.)

    Really? You use this exact same trick to claim that there is a wider audience for “libertarian” ideas.

  3. Steve Newton says:

    cassandra,

    Show me where I’ve ever done that. Ever.

  4. Jim C says:

    John F Kennedy’s birthday. My first US Senator. Sigh… And then my current representation in Washington, Pathetic DINOs!

  5. SussexAnon says:

    Libertarians have made claims to making progress in America for their early support for pot and marriage.

    Not necessarily you, Steve, but it is out there in Libertarian circles.

    I am curious how Libertarians got lumped in with this guy and statement.

  6. Steve Newton says:

    Sussex Anon, you’re right about libertarians making claims about having advanced specific arguments, including gay marriage and drug legalization.

    What I said is don’t accuse me–cassandra did–of claiming social conservative GOPer positions from people like Rand Paul or Ted Cruz as evidence that Libertarian ideas have traction.

    Simply has never happened. I don’t, and have not embraced the GOP in anything I’ve written here or on my blog or elsewhere. I’m just asking for somebody to show me a Libertarian who is advocating the restoration of property requirements for voting before they start asserting it.

    Don’t worry, I’m sure cassandra will be along with her retraction in a few minutes.

  7. Jason330 says:

    Bravo to whoever put up the poll. The “Primary Carney again for Representative, 2016 ” choice cracked me up.