Friday Open Thread [1.17.14]

Filed in National by on January 17, 2014

Yeah, the marriage equality battle is over. We won. Here are poll results from freaking Utah:

48-48. Tied in Utah. Josh Marshall:

It’s even more clear now that the battle for the principle of marriage equality is genuinely over. Not just in blue states, which we knew, but even in many of the most conservative states in the country. (Nate Silver argued last year that Mississippi and Alabama are likely to be the final same sex marriage hold outs.) What we have now isn’t so much a battle as a vast moping up operation, a race between legislatures and the courts to catch up with galloping public opinion.

Since last month we know have this most recent federal court decision in Oklahoma, another state with some claim to being the most conservative state in the country, tossing out the state’s ban on same sex marriage. To play the devil’s advocate, we can note that the judges in the Utah and Oklahoma cases were Clinton and Obama appointees. (The Judge with the narrower ruling in Ohio is another Obama appointee.) We’ve yet to see a judge appointee by Republican president make a similar ruling.

But judges don’t generally like to get overruled or get too far out in front of higher court rulings. One judge going off on his or her own is one thing. Three making such a finding in short order suggests that Justice Scalia was right in stating what most others recognized: that the Court’s decision in Windsor leaves virtually no constitutional ground for states to reject same sex marriage.

Barbara Bush doesn’t want Jeb to run for President. Now that’s motherly love.

Marc Ambinder: “I tend not to see every presidential policy speech as legacy-defining, but Friday’s speech might just fit the bill. Obama has used his second term to review and claw back the advancing national security state that he endorsed and expanded when he took office. I’ve written this before, but he really does not want to be known as the president who enshrined indefinite detention of terrorism suspects into law, or who abused the state secrets privilege, or who allowed the surveillance state to run amok.”

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  1. puck says:

    That’s great that we won the gay marriage war. Now if public opinion would only start galloping toward a meaningful pro-jobs policy and restoration of the middle class.

  2. Jason330 says:

    I agree. Gays are apparently pretty good at this politics stuff. Maybe we should get them on it?

  3. Steve Newton says:

    @jason

    I attended a meeting where the folks who ran the marriage equality campaign in Delaware laid out their techniques for “micro-canvassing” and building support, and my immediate thought upon leaving was that their GOTV techniques left even the Democrats in the dust, and the Dems are usually considered gold standard in that regard.

  4. bamboozer says:

    Great, now on to the next battle. At some point the eternally revenue hungry little minds in Dover will come around to legalizing marijuana, or pot as the rest of us call it. What good is a racket if you don’t get in on it early?

  5. Dorian Gray says:

    I, for one, can’t wait till the very first Wilmington Cannabis Cup. Well, the official one, anyhow. The unofficial one begin everyday at 6pm in my living room. Spoiler alert, my shit always wins.

  6. Tom McKenney says:

    I’m a fan of the cannabis bowl

  7. xyz says:

    Newark Data Center zoning approved. NIMBY’s take one in the shorts.

  8. Truth Teller says:

    Two very close Lady friends of mine along with two male friends got married to their partners and contrary to the right wing nuts my marriage has lasted no effects what so ever except I have four very happy friends