When Will the White Community Take Responsibility for Its Culture of Violence?

Filed in National by on July 31, 2013

This is the question central to Chris Hayes’ news (satire) piece yesterday:

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It was inspired by this post in Gawker, called Video of Violent, Rioting Surfers Shows White Culture of Lawlessness:

A frightening and violent mob swept through the normally quiet seaside community of Huntington Beach last night following a surfing competition in the area. Businesses were vandalized and looted, portable toilets overturned, and brutal fistfights waged right out in the open. It was an ugly display and a sad day for California. But more than that, it was a reminder that we must begin to seriously consider the values of our thuggish white youth.

It is worth reading ALL of the comments here, because, seriously, what America needs is to raise the level of outrage over the persistently thuggish behavior of white youth.

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  1. cassandra_m says:

    Before we get started here, you should know that some of my best friends are white — I even have white relatives, ok?

  2. Geezer says:

    This was the best thing I’ve ever seen on Gawker, and Cassandra is right about the comments — it’s like finding a diamond mine next to a gold mine.

    I liked the one that pointed out how white people keep giving their kids preposterous names like Aiden and Addison, names that were bound to giving hiring managers a negative impression.

  3. Jason330 says:

    I worked with a white guy. Very decent, family man.

  4. cassandra_m says:

    The comments are the thing that makes this whole article — my favorite exchange (so far):

    Comment: I am embarrassed to admit this, but I often cross the street when I see a young white approaching.

    Response Comment: Would you rather be embarrassed or die? Would you rather make someone uncomfortable or be beaten? There’s good white people and plenty of bad ones, and it’s just PC nonsense to expect you to risk your life on the chance that the one coming at you is a good one.

    Stay safe, man.

  5. cassandra_m says:

    This one too:

    These white youths shouldn’t buy into the thuggish surf culture and clothing that comes with it. If a white male in America walks around in board shorts, I take it as a warning sign that he is a violent and aggressive cracker, looking to cause trouble. If only they stopped wearing board shorts and wore a damn shirt with some sleeves, their behavior would change dramatically and people would respect them more. I’m not a racist, but I say if they want to dress like that, they should be prepared to accept the consequences.

  6. Geezer says:

    You can make all the excuses for them you want, it won’t explain away their insolent attitude. They will never be accepted by wider society until they learn how to work with others instead of insisting everyone adapt to their own (low) standards of behavior.

  7. socialistic ben says:

    It is in their DNA. You look throughout history and whites, or more aptly, those of European decent, have always been very aggressive. They almost seem to take joy in conquering and then oppressing other races, then claim “racial dominance”. It’s no surprise that whites today are so violent. Their natural urge to conquer and oppress is being fundamentally threatened.

  8. puck says:

    They almost seem to take joy in conquering and then oppressing other races, then claim “racial dominance”. It’s no surprise that whites today are so violent.

    Remember that race that was gentle and peace-loving, and insisted on to settling their differences through negotiation? Me neither.

    Ironically, the white Western Europeans are weary of their long history of war and now are cautious of militarism and violent civil strife. They aren’t doing so hot on racism, but it’s all relative – compared with 70 years ago they are doing great on racism. Look where the violent conflicts are in the world now.

  9. Norinda says:

    Try traveling abroad-a woman said to me “you rude-ignorant Americans think your entitled….and are too demanding.”. Sub-cultural perceptions extend across racial lines too.

  10. puck says:

    Try traveling abroad-a woman said to me “you rude-ignorant Americans think your entitled….and are too demanding.”

    At least she spoke English like a civilized person.

  11. LeBay says:

    @Jason330-

    I worked with a white guy. Very decent, family man.

    I’m sure he was also well spoken and articulate.

  12. puck says:

    White people take responsibility for violence all the time. It’s called liberal guilt.

  13. Sussex09 says:

    Thank you Rev. Sharpton….aka race-baiter extraordinaire. Wouldn’t expect anything less.

  14. socialistic ben says:

    Ever been beaten by a gang of cops and tortured with a fire hose sussex09? Once you experience what Al Sharpton/ Rev Jackson etc have experienced, you can complain all you want about their world view. Until then, shut your hillbilly mouth.

  15. Geezer says:

    What does Al Sharpton have to do with this? Man, if there’s one thing a cracker can’t stand it’s a black man’s success.

  16. socialistic ben says:

    The white race REALLY doesn’t like being reminded of what they’ve done. It is why they consider people like Al Sharpton an enemy. He reminds them of the sins of their for-fathers, they feel actual guilt, but sadly are unable to recognize it and just feel bad. They then direct their anger toward whoever made them feel bad, thinking it is all the messenger’s fault. Can you blame them though? All that time evolving in Western Europe would turn any species into a violent, reactionary being.
    I suppose it is ok if they have their vile thoughts…. as long as they dont ACT on them

  17. Sussex09 says:

    Communist ben, what have Jesse and al experienced, please, do tell. Tell me again what my forefathers did. Tell me again why you need to make me feel bad for something that happened 150 years ago and was admittedly wrong. Tell me again why it is ok for you to call me a name when you have no idea who i am. Tell me again why a liberal theory that is challenged is resisted with instant hated and various assumptions about me. Here is one for you, shut your asshole mouth.

  18. cassandra_m says:

    And here is one for you, Sussex09, you can tell people who you are or you can STFU and leave here. This stupid race-baiting and name calling in this thread are off-topic.

  19. Geezer says:

    Nice work, 09. You managed to illustrate everything he assumed about you.

    Now tell me again what Al Sharpton has to do with the topic here.

  20. Sussex09 says:

    Its always off-topic when someone doesn’t agree with your idiocy. Liberal guilt, a terrible thing to waste.

    Geezer, your racist language confirms everything everyone assumed about you….

    Now tell me why I or anyone else should feel guilty?

  21. Geezer says:

    First explain what Al Sharpton has to do with the topic. Stop whining and answer the question.

    By the way, calling you hillbilly or cracker, or stump-jumper or peckerwood or any of the other pejorative names we have for white backwoods morons, doesn’t make me a racist. But I do understand your feelings of inferiority; they are rooted in reality.

  22. Sussex09 says:

    Thanks for the explanation of how racists think. So you can call somebody who doesnt agree with you any racist name you want but as long as you issue a piss ant disclaimer, that doesnt mean it applies to you. That is liberalism at its finest. You have learned well. Sorry bud, I am inferior to no man, especially a racist such as you.

  23. Geezer says:

    We’re both white, moron. It isn’t about race. It’s about your stupidity, which you keep illustrating by failing to answer a simple question.

    Another sign of your ignorance: pissant is one word, not two. You can go back to banging your sister now.

  24. cassandra_m says:

    Its always off-topic when someone doesn’t agree with your idiocy.

    Why is it that these morons go on the defensive when their reading comprehension fails them? It is a damn shame that Sussex09 didn’t come from a culture that valued education. And *that’s* what you should feel guilty of.

  25. Sussex09 says:

    Wow, it is always an honor to be surrounded by the smartest people in Delaware. Not defensive, explain to me why I should be guilty. If you valued education you could explain this to me…….Crickets.

    Banging my sister huh. That is on topic I guess. Well I dont have one but you do have a mom. Is that off topic?

  26. Tom McKenney says:

    @ socialistic ben Medgar Evers, Martin Luther King Jr., and Malcolm X stood up for their people and were killed. Revs. Al and Jesse are still around. All sorts of regular afro-americans suffered great indignities, jail, and murder. Why defend two hucksters ?

  27. socialistic ben says:

    09 thinks calling me a communist insulted me. adorable. My favorite is the “your mom joke” no wonder Sussex09 cant fathom what civil rights leaders in this country endured. he cant be more than 12.

  28. cassandra_m says:

    Not defensive, explain to me why I should be guilty.

    Seriously? We’re not talking about why you should be guilty. That’s not the topic of this thread. But someone who *is* guilty is going to hang in here and try to change the topic to just how not guilty he is. Moron. Not only does he come from a culture that should value education better, apparently the only conversation his culture is capable of is of the screaming talk show variety. This is why these people can’t ever be a part of regular society.

  29. LeBay says:

    Sussex09 is a raging jackass. But that doesn’t mean Sharpton & Jackson are somehow noble civil rights leaders. They are race hustlers & their hustling has been well documented. Jackson has shaken down countless corporations via the Rainbow-Push Coalition. Google it. Sharpton should STILL be residing 3 or 4 floors BELOW the harshest prison in NYS for his involvement in the Tawanna Brawley case.

    Collectively, we liberals give these scumbags a pass. WHY? It makes us look like fools. We do shit like this & we seem no better than the RWNJs who give Limbaugh a pass for his opiate addiction & Henry Hyde a pass for his “youthful indiscretions.”

    Jackson & Sharpton collectively don’t make a pimple on the asses of the old women who were beaten, had bricks thrown at them, fire-hosed & intimidated by mounted police on the Edmund Pettus Bridge.

    I find it telling that both are “Reverends.” I’m pretty sure they both worship at the altar of the Almighty Dollar.

  30. *smokenmirrors* says:

    Socialistic Ben ever had your family member commit suicide because of bullshit allegations they allegedly raped and tortured some young black girl, named Tawana Brawley which was an outright lie. Sharpton the race baiter who addressed an audience at the Jesus Love Temple made the statement that “young black men equate making babies to having a bowel movement after they’re done the wipe themselves off, and walk away”. Sharpton owes more then 1/2 Million dollars in federal taxes. The fucker should be in jail instead of walking the streets as a free man proclaiming he’s a member of an oppressed race.

  31. Geezer says:

    And you’ll notice they still can’t answer the question of what Al Sharpton has to do with white privilege.

  32. cassandra_m says:

    But you’ll also notice that they provide plenty of genuine white resentment that is supposed to have been satirized here.

  33. pandora says:

    Love the way these guys are so quick to tell minorities (and women) to get over it (so much time has passed, yadda, yadda, yadda), but can’t seem to take their own advice when it comes to the War of Northern Aggression Civil War.

    Basically, all these guys are doing is trying desperately to feel superior, but what they’ve “accomplished” in their own lives isn’t enough to generate confidence. Happy, successful people don’t wallow in victim-hood.

  34. Tom McKenney says:

    Pandora I always object when people call the Civil War the War of Northern Aggression. The south started the war by firing on Fort Sumter.

  35. pandora says:

    Me too, Tom, but that’s what those confederate flag flying nuts call it. Personally, I think of them as treasonous traitors and… losers.

  36. Tom McKenney says:

    Agreed

  37. Geezer says:

    Sore losers.