The Saga of Political Dissidents

Filed in International by on May 3, 2012

We haven’t written at all about the escape of Chinese dissident Chen Guangcheng, his rescue, his return and, now, change of heart, but I have a simple question for you all. If the roles were reversed, would the US goverment stand for China helping/interfering with US political dissident Bradley Manning?


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  1. Que Pasa says:

    Who cares!? Drawing an equivalency between China and the U.S. on virtually any matter, particularly one involving human rights, is a non-starter…even as a hypothetical.

  2. occam says:

    Nailed it QP, the day we start drawing equivalencies to China is the day we lose our claim to the mantle of global leadership. We shouldn’t have sold Chen down the river.

  3. Que Pasa says:

    The mindset that constructed the Great Wall is still alive and well in ‘modern’ China.

    You can Google it, though, not if you’re actually IN China.

  4. cassandra m says:

    A mindset adapted by those who built the transcontinental railroad or who built some of the early mines here in the US. And a mindset that some American business people would love to get back to c.f. elimination of OSHA.

  5. Que Pasa says:

    You’re not following very well, Cass.

  6. cassandra m says:

    I’m following that you are just making stuff up here. When do you get the clue that you can only do that on GOP wingnut sites?

  7. nemski says:

    And QP really doesn’t address the question at hand. If the US acts in other countries internal business, what’s to stop China or India for acting in our internal business?

  8. nemski says:

    Having the US act like the international bully is not a tenable long-term foreign relation strategy.

  9. occam says:

    I can’t believe we’re pretending that standing up for human rights makes us an “international bully”. This man was inside our embassy, he wasn’t China’s concern any more. We sold him out and we should be ashamed.

  10. nemski says:

    Occem, would you stand for the reverse? China involving itself in our internal policies? That’s the issue of this post.

  11. Que Pasa says:

    They already are!

    See: Campaign donations Gore, Albert Jr.

  12. Que Pasa says:

    Precisely what is made up?

  13. nemski says:

    Nice deflection which really doesn’t address the issue in a serious manner. Just right-wing regurgitation.

  14. occam says:

    When you name a human rights activist being held against his will under threat that the American government will kill his family I will let you know how I would feel if the Chinese sheltered him at their embassy. This was a dark day for the obama administration and a dark day for America.

  15. nemski says:

    occam, some people think Bradley Manning is being held against his will and horrible conditions.

  16. Liberal Elite says:

    And we certainly do have our political prisoners. John Walker Lindh is a rather clear example.

  17. Valentine says:

    I think we should stand for human rights and dignity, not the right of governments to do whatever they want internally. We should stand opposed to the mistreatment of prisoners. Bradley Manning is being mistreated, and we should oppose that as well. It’s best to operate on the basis of principles rather than being proceduralists, imho.

  18. nemski says:

    Exactly right Valentine, but our history shows we preach this American ideal, but the reality is something quite different.

  19. cassandra m says:

    There’s alot of people who think that Leonard Peltier is a political prisoner.

  20. Que Pasa says:

    So John Walker Lindh –a traitor who joined a hyper-ideological military outfit that is responsible for the deaths of Americans, as well as thousands of other innocents– is a mere “policial prisoner” to Liberal Elite???

    Let me guess, ‘Free Mumia’ as well, right?