BREAKING: No Vote On Boehner Bill Tonight

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1. suddenly not so apathetic ben says:

   July 28, 2011 at 10:50 pm

   first of all, i promise to cool it with the stupid nic names.
   next, the GOP TeaBag cocoon might be about to burst. If this bill goes down, and it leads to the end of Boehner… while we are celebrating by smashing pumpkins (while listening to Smashing Pumpkins) we should beware of what the Repukes morph in to. If the Teabaggs *officially* take over they will totally control the message and the superpacs and the entire machine of the GOP. BEcause it it an impossible dream for the Dems to completely take back over, you have to assume there will be GOP gains SOMEWHERE. and it will be a good bet that more Rand Pauls and Alan Wests get through. Lets say Obama IS re-elected… what 4 more years of THIS?

2. sussexanon says:

   July 28, 2011 at 11:21 pm

   I think Boehner will get a bill tomorrow. Goes to the Senate, Reid merges his bill into Boehner, passes it, goes back to house and it passes with bi partisan votes, but no tea partiers.

   Either that, or nothing passes, Teapocalypse happens and the 14th amendment is invoked, which pays our debts but doesn’t pay for anything else. Gov’t shut down, republicans get blamed.

   I think we are beyond passing a simple one page raise the debt ceiling bill, aren’t we?

3. puck says:

   July 29, 2011 at 6:40 am

   Man, it has been a long time since Repubs have lost on anything. They can’t deal with it. They really are in denial that their bullshit bills aren’t going to get past the Senate or Obama.

   I suppose they think that once the Senate or Obama rejects the Repub bill, that the country will blame Dems. That scenario isn’t happening either. For once, Obama’s dithering had a purpose – Obama was carefully laying the groundwork to convince voters that Dems had exhausted all the options, so that any failures would be blamed on Republican intransigence.

   Republicans thought that passing Republican policies was the natural order of things, whether Republicans were a majority or not. And they had every reason to believe that, since there were always enough Vichy Democrats to make that happen.

   It must be stunning to Repubs that the same Dems who delivered health care privatization and tax cuts for the rich, are now standing shoulder-to-shoulder to block Republican attacks on Medicare and Social Security. It’s stunning to me too. I had fully expected to be negotiating this in the end with Presidents Lieberman and Nelson. I guess the upcoming elections are finally beginning to clarify Dem minds.

4. Unstable Isotope says:

   July 29, 2011 at 6:46 am

   I don’t think there’s a point to Boehner passing a bill today. He’s already suffered his defeat. Negotiating a stupider bill with his own caucus doesn’t make him look like a DC powerhouse, especially since he’s wasting time on a DOA bill.

5. Unstable Isotope says:

   July 29, 2011 at 6:55 am

   “Boehner’s Three-Legged Stool of Doom”

   In his inability so far to whip together enough Republican votes to secure passage of his bill, Mr. Boehner has faced a triple threat of his own. The first leg of the stool is the Tea Party. The second are first-term Republicans, who make up more than a third of his caucus. And the third is the threat of primary challenges to his members.

6. Unstable Isotope says:

   July 29, 2011 at 6:59 am

   Maybe Boehner is holding out for the trillion dollar coin option:

   Sovereign governments such as the United States can print new money. However, there’s a statutory limit to the amount of paper currency that can be in circulation at any one time.

   Ironically, there’s no similar limit on the amount of coinage. A little-known statute gives the secretary of the Treasury the authority to issue platinum coins in any denomination. So some commentators have suggested that the Treasury create two $1 trillion coins, deposit them in its account in the Federal Reserve and write checks on the proceeds.

7. MJ says:

   July 29, 2011 at 7:00 am

   I think this all ends up with Speaker Cantor.

8. puck says:

   July 29, 2011 at 7:08 am

   The Republican Party is cracking under the weight of its own contradictions.

   I keep coming back to Obama’s Pearl Harbor Day 2010 press conference. There is a lot there that explains Obama. I have taken Obama to task plenty of times for several statements on that day, and mocked him for saying “I’ll take John Boehner at his word.”

   But now, Obama’s statement on that day:

   “I’ll take John Boehner at his word — that nobody, Democrat or Republican, is willing to see the full faith and credit of the United States government collapse”

   seems like a work of genius. It is as though Obama saw this day coming, and wanted to make sure Boehner had no way out, and would bear the blame for tea party intransigence.

   December 7, 2010:

   Q Mr. President, thank you. How do these negotiations affect negotiations or talks with Republicans about raising the debt limit? Because it would seem that they have a significant amount of leverage over the White House now, going in. Was there ever any attempt by the White House to include raising the debt limit as a part of this package?

   THE PRESIDENT: When you say it would seem they’ll have a significant amount of leverage over the White House, what do you mean?

   Q Just in the sense that they’ll say essentially we’re not going to raise the — we’re not going to agree to it unless the White House is able to or willing to agree to significant spending cuts across the board that probably go deeper and further than what you’re willing to do. I mean, what leverage would you have —

   THE PRESIDENT: Look, here’s my expectation — and I’ll take John Boehner at his word — that nobody, Democrat or Republican, is willing to see the full faith and credit of the United States government collapse, that that would not be a good thing to happen. And so I think that there will be significant discussions about the debt limit vote. That’s something that nobody ever likes to vote on. But once John Boehner is sworn in as Speaker, then he’s going to have responsibilities to govern. You can’t just stand on the sidelines and be a bomb thrower.

   And so my expectation is, is that we will have tough negotiations around the budget, but that ultimately we can arrive at a position that is keeping the government open, keeping Social Security checks going out, keeping veterans services being provided, but at the same time is prudent when it comes to taxpayer dollars.

9. puck says:

   July 29, 2011 at 7:20 am

   “So some commentators have suggested that the Treasury create two $1 trillion coins, deposit them in its account in the Federal Reserve and write checks on the proceeds.”

   Isn’t that basically what Mike Castle’s “state quarters” program does?

10. Jason330 says:

    July 29, 2011 at 8:06 am

    I agree with MJ. From the articles Cassandra has linked to over the past few days, it seems pretty clear that the teabags we planning in driving the economy off a cliff in order to install their own speaker and the endless “investigations,” impeachment trials, and nutbag legislative agenda that goes with that.

    As if Boehner’s speakership wasn’t nutbag enough.

11. socialistic ben says:

    July 29, 2011 at 10:02 am

    “I think this all ends up with Speaker Cantor.”

    MJ, please tell me that teabaggy shanda wont be the first Jewish speaker.

12. Truth Teller says:

    July 29, 2011 at 3:47 pm

    at this moment the house is naming post offices