DREAM Act/DADT Repeal Cloture Vote Soon
The cloture votes on the DREAM Act and the DADT Repeal should begin at around 10:30. Chris Coons is presiding over the Senate right now.
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The Evil One, John McWeasel, is speaking incoherently.
Saying something about Liberal Bastions.
He is such a small, hateful man. Both in stature, and in character.
What are the chances that everyone Durbin shows will be attractive?
Durbin is tearing it up right now.
I loved the part where McCain said that liberals don’t know anyone in the military. I also love how he said we have to keep DADT because there are soldiers in Walter Reed missing limbs.
Reid “You don’t have to be straight to shoot straight.”
Cardin is now presiding over the Senate.
Coons just voted aye on DREAM Act cloture. Live!
who is carrying it?
CSPAN 2.
And Carper voted AYE on DREAM.
DREAM fails. 55 to 41.
Democratic Senators voting against, that I heard: Tester, Pryor, and Hagan.
Lieberman now speaking in favor of DADT repeal
DREAM Act fails to invoke cloture 55-41. Damn Senate math! Getting ready to vote on DADT Repeal.
McCain says “Today is a very sad day.”
Baucus too. Lugar, Murkowski, Bennett (Utah) voted yes.
McCain says Marines have no legs because of the horrible gays.
I hope McCain goes straight to Hell when he dies.
Gee, DD — that doesn’t seem very tolerant of diverse views to me. And here I thought you Lefties believed that dissent is the highest form of patriotism.
Brown (MA), Collins, Snowe all vote in favor of DADT cloture.
Dems voting no: none.
Ordinary Joe–I am through respecting bigots for their bigotry. I am intolerant of intolerance. Bigotry is not another view point to be respected. It is to be mocked and shamed.
By my count, DADT repeal has passed magical 60 vote threshold. Surprise is aye from Kirk.
Based on some quick math… the votes are there for DADT repeal. If we are to believe the bigots and the Rapturists, the end comes at noon. Repent sins.
In other words, you’ve just decided to become another hatemonger expressing contempt and bigotry against those who dare to view the world differently than you. What next? Hating folks because of their gender, religion, nationality, or the color of their skin?
And I offer that point of view as one who believes that DADT is a silly policy that ought to be done away with.
DADT cloture passes! 63-33!!!!! Hooray for equality.
DADT repeal passes 63-33. So some Republican and one or two Democratic cowards did not vote. GOPers voting AYE: Brown, Snowe, Collins, Voinovich, Murkowski, Kirk.
Joe, are you dense?
I will not tolerate or respect anyone who is a bigot.
If you oppose the DREAM act, then fine. I won’t hate you. If you support the endless Afghan war, I won’t hate you.
But if you dare seek to deny another their civil rights and equality under the law, you are evil. And I will hate you.
A simple “Yes” would have been sufficient.
Manchin was the Dem who didn’t vote on either.
Here is McCain’s incoherent babbling right before the DADT repeal vote:
You go up to the Senate and find Senators with no brains and no hearts. Like Senator McInsane.
What is the backstory on this? How is it even possible that Dems voted as a block and got the Republican votes that they did? This is odd.
President Lieberman made them do it.
Link? Or is that what the voices in your head tell you?
The repeal happened because of hardworking activists (if only middle class tax cuts had such a group) and dedicated Senate sponsors. Lieberman really was key as was Reid and of course Obama did make the repeal one of his priorities. Since we’re emo progressives I think we’re supposed to be sad.
BTW, the Senate waived the usual 30 hour wait after cloture so the repeal vote should occur around 3 pm today.
John McCain is a fucking asshole who deserves a one-way ticket back to the Hanoi Hilton. There I said it. Flame away!
What is the backstory on this? How is it even possible that Dems voted as a block and got the Republican votes that they did? This is odd.
There was no money involved.
Republicans really don’t care about social issues or culture wars anymore.
careful there MJ…
remember, hateful bigots are an oppressed group. we need to recognize their rights to hate people. Ordinary Joe and McCain will be the founding member of the NAAB(igot)A(ssholes)
No Need MJ. The wingnuts have put McCain in an a figurative Hanoi Hilton.
UI – This video from Netroots Nation speaks to the veracity of your comment:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/12/18/929977/-Dont-ask,-dont-tell-will-finally-be-repealed
Really good dkos diary on the history of activism of gays in the military.
We should also give a big thank you to Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer who got the standalone bill through the House quickly and onto the Senate.
I’m thrilled!
I can’t believe we’ve reached a point where the Senate voting to allow a vote is the nail-biter segment of the process.
There was no money involved.
I take that back. DADT repeal cost us the tax cuts for the rich – $700B for two years and then forever.
Did we pay too much?
DelDem wrote “But if you dare seek to deny another their civil rights and equality under the law, you are evil. And I will hate you.”
You must hate Obama then. For starters, he is still opposed to equal rights for gays. And that’s just for starters.
Don’t forget the pay roll tax cuts which is the back door to de-fund social security!
Yeah, we bought the farm
Via TPM:
Senate passes bill to repeal DADT by a vote of 65-31. President will sign next week.
I’m really thrilled!
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/12/senate-repeals-dont-ask-dont-tell.php
Somehow Democrats need to learn how to fight for each of our constituencies without selling the farm. Giving up three chips to get two is not a winning proposition.
According to Sean Hannity and some DL commenters, “Obama needs to go” is the subtext of every news item. Not even the subtext, really. The text.
It was extremely pleasing to watch the vote on CSPAN. And that closet case-practicing buggerer Lindsay Graham voted no. Hopefully his boyfriend will cut him off for awhile.
Kudos to GOP Senators Burr and Ensign for doing what was right and voting to repeal this insipid law.
This is GREAT! Finally!
Now, if the fashion industry would only allow us openly heterosexual woman’s fashion designers a place at the table, well, let’s just say, I would probably be once again destroyed by the rejection of the women of the world.
Where is the Hemlock?
Since we’re emo progressives I think we’re supposed to be sad.
Did I call it or what?
Wow, apparently the far left loonies can’t even be happy with this. It’s like they’ve got a major stick up their ass called life.
Fuck the lefteabaggers.
Guess what the House did yesterday.
http://news.antiwar.com/2010/12/17/house-overwhelmingly-approves-new-725-billion-military-spending-bill/
That’s about $2,074 per man, woman and child.
The tone police are on holiday today I see.
DADT repeal is an victory for an important principle of justice, no doubt.
But the sad fact that Repubs only permitted a victory for what is probably one of our smallest constituencies – gays who wish to serve openly – allows only for a momentary smile. It was a costly victory. Savor it because it will likely be the last.
As usual, anon is full of shit. So, what you’re saying is that since DADT affected “one of our smallest consituencies,” it should have remained in place? What a wanker.
So, what you’re saying is that since DADT affected “one of our smallest consituencies,” it should have remained in place?
I didn’t say that. If the tone police won’t respond I’m making a citizen’s arrest. You are busted.
It is a victory. But do not glibly ignore the price the rest of the nation paid for this victory.
More such victories and we will be destroyed.
Laughing @ delacrat as Rush Holt, Linda Sanchez and Jan Schakowsky voted for the the bill.
With 79 self-declared progressives of the Congressional Progressive Caucus and only 48 nays, I’m laughing and laughing and laughing.
With 79 self-declared progressives of the Congressional Progressive Caucus and only 48 nays, I’m laughing and laughing and laughing.
There are meds for inappropriate laughter. Nobody gets your joke, if that’s what it was.
If this is our only victory then those newly unburdened soldiers better get busy creating 15 million jobs.
Comment by nemski on 18 December 2010 at 5:50 pm:
“With 79 self-declared progressives of the Congressional Progressive Caucus and only 48 nays, I’m laughing and laughing and laughing.”
Why you laughin’ Nemski? The joke’s on you, for about $2,074.
@ delacrat, “Where are your progessives now?”
nemski, there’s fake liberals everywhere, even in the progressive caucus.
If you don’t believe me, check out the one in your mirror.
Delacrap – you’re just a total fake! You and anon.
Can’t you show some respect for the people whose favorite issues died so that yours might live?
I am happy that DADT was finally repealed. I am glad that all Americans now have equal rights to commit legal homicide, torture, and mass murders.
Funny how a President supports equal rights to kill while still refusing to support equal rights regarding choosing who to love and marry. But, as DelDem said, those who “seek to deny another their civil rights and equality under the law” are “evil.”
anon, as I have pointed out several times, the “tone police” are selective in whose expressions of opinion they choose to castigate.
I am glad that all Americans now have equal rights to commit legal homicide, torture, and mass murders.
a1, here is where we depart. The world is fuzzy and following every thought to its logical conclusion doesn’t always result in the correct answer.
delacrat, there are always some mice who cheer for the cat.
Comment by anonone on 18 December 2010 at 7:05 pm:
“delacrat, there are always some mice who cheer for the cat.”
Well said, anonone.
I see… your priorities are the only ones that count. Got it.
Andrew Sullivan, who unlike Anonone has skin in the game, observes:
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/12/obamas-long-game.html
“Like 2009’s removal of the HIV ban, which was as painstakingly slow but thereby much more entrenched, this process took time. Without the Pentagon study, it wouldn’t have passed. Without Obama keeping Lieberman inside the tent, it wouldn’t have passed. Without the critical relationship between Bob Gates and Obama, it wouldn’t have passed.”
Exactly Belinsky. Looking back you can see Obama’s long game. The survey was actually what put it over the top I think. He played the politics right.
so, del and a1 are the same person right? (not an outing just a Beckian question meant to discredit them (both?)