Tips on Handling Climate Change Deniers

Filed in National by on February 20, 2010

Speaks for itself, I think.

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  2. Jason330 says:

    6 our of 10 Texans thinks that man coexisted with dinosaurs. Just sayin’

  3. Jason Z says:

    Another peer-reviewed study retracted due to errors that undermined it’s conclusion that sea level would rise between 7 and 82 cm by the end of this century: Climate scientists withdraw journal claims of rising sea levels, http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/feb/21/sea-level-geoscience-retract-siddall

    The science is not settled.

  4. Jason Z says:

    And of course the nutrition-deprived brains of the vegetarians that made this video wouldn’t know that you don’t fry meat to make jerky.

  5. Geezer says:

    The total rise in sea level is not “science,” JZ. It’s a projected estimate. It would be nice if conservatives would demand their own proposals live up to the level of accuracy they demand on this issue. For example, whatever happened to all that money that was supposed to flow in based on estimates from the Bush tax cuts?

  6. Jason Z says:

    The only part of climate science that worries me is the projections. If a peer-reviewed study by scientists in a scientific journal is not science, then pray tell, what is?

    From the linked article:
    The study, published in 2009 in Nature Geoscience, one of the top journals in its field, confirmed the conclusions of the 2007 report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). It used data over the last 22,000 years to predict that sea level would rise by between 7cm and 82cm by the end of the century.

    At the time, Mark Siddall, from the Earth Sciences Department at the University of Bristol, said the study “strengthens the confidence with which one may interpret the IPCC results”. The IPCC said that sea level would probably rise by 18cm-59cm by 2100, though stressed this was based on incomplete information about ice sheet melting and that the true rise could be higher.

  7. pandora says:

    The only part of climate science that worries me is the projections.

    Seriously?

  8. Geezer says:

    The projections have, so far, been on the low side — that is, observed conditions in 2009 are “worse,” from a warming point of view, than the projections from 20 years ago predicted they would be.

  9. Jason Z says:

    Yes pandora, the projections are what lawmakers who want more control over our lives use to gain that control.

  10. pandora says:

    Isn’t that like saying the only part of cancer research that interests me is the treatment and then link this claim to big pharma? Your focus is narrow and politically centered. Science is neither.

  11. Geezer says:

    “lawmakers who want more control over our lives”

    This sort of “claim” is why conservatism has so few intellectual adherents. I’ve never met anyone who “wants more control over my life” other than my wife.

  12. Jason Z says:

    Pandora, maybe reading posts aloud to yourself would help. I wrote, “The only part of climate science that worries me is the projections.” I didn’t use the word “interests.”

    Geezer, when the scientists are making the projections based on their collected data, it’s not science? The IPCC report is a summary of scientific positions and papers and it is full of projections and predictions.

  13. pandora says:

    Guess that was too big of a leap for you, Jason. Let’s try it this way… the only hurricanes that worry me are the ones that make landfall in the US.

  14. cassandra_m says:

    I don’t know why you are bothering with this guy — he clearly doesn’t even get what it is he is objecting to. He just knows he objects because his radio handlers told him to.

  15. Jason Z says:

    Wrong again pandora, you can’t worry about hurricanes because you can’t do anything about them happening. You can only get out of the way or bunker down. I try to only worry about things I might have some power to affect.

    You’re not trying to hurt my feelings, are you cassandra? You know we Dittoheads don’t have feelings.