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		<title>By: Frieda Berryhill</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/25/tom-carper-never-lets-go-the-rightwing-talking-points/#comment-162286</link>
		<dc:creator>Frieda Berryhill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL Jason
“Tom you are bought and paid for.” Tom” “I know. So what?”

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL Jason<br />
“Tom you are bought and paid for.” Tom” “I know. So what?”</p>
<p>And so we lump it</p>
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		<title>By: cassandra_m</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/25/tom-carper-never-lets-go-the-rightwing-talking-points/#comment-162240</link>
		<dc:creator>cassandra_m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;But the thing is, I know that people who were not in the meetings *I* was in might see some of my work’s outcome as equally bizarre.&lt;/i&gt;

This is true for lots of projects from the outside looking in.  I know that some of the more systemic issues in my own business come from making accommodations to the compromises made by those who set policy.

And Carper is among those making policy.  VC probably has it right that he is likely more of wet rag than anything, but I think that giving someone the privilege of representing me in Congress comes with it some obligation to leadership.

I&#039;m very much aware of the need for 60 votes.  But I&#039;m also aware that this is 60 votes for a very compromised &lt;i&gt;already&lt;/i&gt; bit of business that has some good stuff in it, but its long term impacts are the ones that get traded away for short-term interests that have not one darned thing to do with getting this reform -- as policy -- in place.  Everyone says that you do not really want to see laws being made and this process is likely Exhibit A.  But that doesn&#039;t mean that it is any easier to watch as the groups with money to burn are enabled by the people whose campaigns they finance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But the thing is, I know that people who were not in the meetings *I* was in might see some of my work’s outcome as equally bizarre.</i></p>
<p>This is true for lots of projects from the outside looking in.  I know that some of the more systemic issues in my own business come from making accommodations to the compromises made by those who set policy.</p>
<p>And Carper is among those making policy.  VC probably has it right that he is likely more of wet rag than anything, but I think that giving someone the privilege of representing me in Congress comes with it some obligation to leadership.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very much aware of the need for 60 votes.  But I&#8217;m also aware that this is 60 votes for a very compromised <i>already</i> bit of business that has some good stuff in it, but its long term impacts are the ones that get traded away for short-term interests that have not one darned thing to do with getting this reform &#8212; as policy &#8212; in place.  Everyone says that you do not really want to see laws being made and this process is likely Exhibit A.  But that doesn&#8217;t mean that it is any easier to watch as the groups with money to burn are enabled by the people whose campaigns they finance.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason330</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/25/tom-carper-never-lets-go-the-rightwing-talking-points/#comment-162234</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason330</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 20:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carper makes no secret of who he really works for.  That&#039;s the frustrating part.   Bloggers: &quot;Tom you are bought and paid for.&quot;    Tom&quot; &quot;I know. So what?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carper makes no secret of who he really works for.  That&#8217;s the frustrating part.   Bloggers: &#8220;Tom you are bought and paid for.&#8221;    Tom&#8221; &#8220;I know. So what?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Belinsky</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/25/tom-carper-never-lets-go-the-rightwing-talking-points/#comment-162228</link>
		<dc:creator>Belinsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;How does a man with kids in Ivy League schools and a career public pay check sock away three million in personal wealth? Just wondering.&lt;/i&gt;

Sent his kids to public school; has lived in same house for 20 years; saved $$ with modest lifestyle; one of the kids goes to a fine state college; spouse who worked for DuPont.  The Thomas Stanley recipe, http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/s/stanley-millionaire.html and a talented wife.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>How does a man with kids in Ivy League schools and a career public pay check sock away three million in personal wealth? Just wondering.</i></p>
<p>Sent his kids to public school; has lived in same house for 20 years; saved $$ with modest lifestyle; one of the kids goes to a fine state college; spouse who worked for DuPont.  The Thomas Stanley recipe, <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/s/stanley-millionaire.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/s/stanley-millionaire.html</a> and a talented wife.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Willling</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/25/tom-carper-never-lets-go-the-rightwing-talking-points/#comment-162226</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy Willling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are &quot;13 very specific proven solutions&quot; to improve the DEMs HCR bills:

A minimum medical loss ratio for insurance companies mandating that they spend at least 90 cents of every dollar they take in as premiums on health care. This is based on the crazy idea that health insurance should insure people’s health instead of corporate profits. 
Turn all health insurances companies into non-profits. Most countries that are not single payer (Switzerland, Germany, Belgium) require all basic health insurance plans to be non-profits. 
On the new exchanges, create a much stronger risk adjustment mechanism, like in the Netherlands, to encourage competition on quality and cost effectiveness, instead of the cherry picking of healthy customers. 
Allow undocumented immigrants to buy health insurance on the new exchange with their own money. It will increase the size of the risk pool and reduce the cost of uncompensated care in this country. 
On the new exchanges, use more tightly defined benefit packages, and define plan levels based on deductible and copay size, instead of actuarial value. This will simplify comparison shopping and encourage the selection of more cost-effective HMO’s, instead of PPO’s 
Allow for drug re-importation. People in every other first world country pay much less for the same prescription drugs. Let Americans buy these cheaper drugs from Canada or Europe. 
Allow Medicare to directly negotiate lower drug prices. Medicare Part D was one of the biggest corporate giveaways in American history. Allow Medicare to use its size (as the VA system does) to directly negotiate for lower drug prices for seniors. 
Eliminate direct-to-consumer drug advertising. It only increases the unnecessary use of medicine. 
Follow the FTC recommendation by providing shorter exclusivity periods for biosimilars. The current bills create an extremely long 12-year exclusivity period. Going with the FTC recommendations will  increase the availability of much cheaper generic versions of life saving biologics. 
Create a robust public option that can use Medicare rates and Medicare’s provider network. 
Create a single provider reimbursement negotiator like basically every other industrialized nation. The lack of this is the single biggest reason why, as a nation, we pay several times what other countries do for the same procedure. 
Create a fully integrated, government-run health care HMO, based on the VA health care system, which would be an insurance option for all Americans. 
Finally, adopt a Medicare-for-all single-payer system for everyone in the country. 

http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/11/27/really-peter-orszag-your-critics-have-no-ideas-for-controlling-cost/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are &#8220;13 very specific proven solutions&#8221; to improve the DEMs HCR bills:</p>
<p>A minimum medical loss ratio for insurance companies mandating that they spend at least 90 cents of every dollar they take in as premiums on health care. This is based on the crazy idea that health insurance should insure people’s health instead of corporate profits.<br />
Turn all health insurances companies into non-profits. Most countries that are not single payer (Switzerland, Germany, Belgium) require all basic health insurance plans to be non-profits.<br />
On the new exchanges, create a much stronger risk adjustment mechanism, like in the Netherlands, to encourage competition on quality and cost effectiveness, instead of the cherry picking of healthy customers.<br />
Allow undocumented immigrants to buy health insurance on the new exchange with their own money. It will increase the size of the risk pool and reduce the cost of uncompensated care in this country.<br />
On the new exchanges, use more tightly defined benefit packages, and define plan levels based on deductible and copay size, instead of actuarial value. This will simplify comparison shopping and encourage the selection of more cost-effective HMO’s, instead of PPO’s<br />
Allow for drug re-importation. People in every other first world country pay much less for the same prescription drugs. Let Americans buy these cheaper drugs from Canada or Europe.<br />
Allow Medicare to directly negotiate lower drug prices. Medicare Part D was one of the biggest corporate giveaways in American history. Allow Medicare to use its size (as the VA system does) to directly negotiate for lower drug prices for seniors.<br />
Eliminate direct-to-consumer drug advertising. It only increases the unnecessary use of medicine.<br />
Follow the FTC recommendation by providing shorter exclusivity periods for biosimilars. The current bills create an extremely long 12-year exclusivity period. Going with the FTC recommendations will  increase the availability of much cheaper generic versions of life saving biologics.<br />
Create a robust public option that can use Medicare rates and Medicare’s provider network.<br />
Create a single provider reimbursement negotiator like basically every other industrialized nation. The lack of this is the single biggest reason why, as a nation, we pay several times what other countries do for the same procedure.<br />
Create a fully integrated, government-run health care HMO, based on the VA health care system, which would be an insurance option for all Americans.<br />
Finally, adopt a Medicare-for-all single-payer system for everyone in the country. </p>
<p><a href="http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/11/27/really-peter-orszag-your-critics-have-no-ideas-for-controlling-cost/" rel="nofollow">http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/11/27/really-peter-orszag-your-critics-have-no-ideas-for-controlling-cost/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Willling</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/25/tom-carper-never-lets-go-the-rightwing-talking-points/#comment-162220</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy Willling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The biggest problem with what JTF is promoting is that the public option &#039;piece&#039; as opt-in, opt-out, trigger or co-op leaves it too weak to effect the population that needs it. We don&#039;t need no stinkin&#039; 60 votes if the compromise punishes the citizens and compensates the special interests. 



On balance, the bills &#039;strengths?&#039;:
-mandated (and therefore millions of new private insurance customers)buy-ins; 
-no anti-trust buster amendment to combat standing monopolies;
-backdoor WH- (that Senator Carper was smack in the middle of) deals to prevent any price negotiation with big pharma

and (throw a few in for the GOP) 
-no tort caps or
-purchase across state lines provisions. 

The Senate&#039;s progressives will try to reinvent the Senate Finance bill to create something worth voting for or they will withhold their vote. 

Winning these day is having resources for negative advertising.

EXPLOITATION and threats...there is a big money war where the special interests tell Rahm Emanuel that they&#039;ll spend 100 million in advertisement unless they get their way.

In the end they&#039;ll do that anyway. 

Even though the CBO had graded the Senate bill as fair, it cautions that no one can predict costs containment and that they do expect that costs will rise. 

The best bet against costs is the public option where there is no fat profits going to stockholders or executive bonuses and no money for political lobbyists or for combative advertisement. 

Carper sits squarely on the wrong side of this mess. His game is the game of lobby and influence. How does a man with kids in Ivy League schools and a career public pay check sock away three million in personal wealth? Just wondering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biggest problem with what JTF is promoting is that the public option &#8216;piece&#8217; as opt-in, opt-out, trigger or co-op leaves it too weak to effect the population that needs it. We don&#8217;t need no stinkin&#8217; 60 votes if the compromise punishes the citizens and compensates the special interests. </p>
<p>On balance, the bills &#8217;strengths?&#8217;:<br />
-mandated (and therefore millions of new private insurance customers)buy-ins;<br />
-no anti-trust buster amendment to combat standing monopolies;<br />
-backdoor WH- (that Senator Carper was smack in the middle of) deals to prevent any price negotiation with big pharma</p>
<p>and (throw a few in for the GOP)<br />
-no tort caps or<br />
-purchase across state lines provisions. </p>
<p>The Senate&#8217;s progressives will try to reinvent the Senate Finance bill to create something worth voting for or they will withhold their vote. </p>
<p>Winning these day is having resources for negative advertising.</p>
<p>EXPLOITATION and threats&#8230;there is a big money war where the special interests tell Rahm Emanuel that they&#8217;ll spend 100 million in advertisement unless they get their way.</p>
<p>In the end they&#8217;ll do that anyway. </p>
<p>Even though the CBO had graded the Senate bill as fair, it cautions that no one can predict costs containment and that they do expect that costs will rise. </p>
<p>The best bet against costs is the public option where there is no fat profits going to stockholders or executive bonuses and no money for political lobbyists or for combative advertisement. </p>
<p>Carper sits squarely on the wrong side of this mess. His game is the game of lobby and influence. How does a man with kids in Ivy League schools and a career public pay check sock away three million in personal wealth? Just wondering.</p>
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		<title>By: Brooke</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/25/tom-carper-never-lets-go-the-rightwing-talking-points/#comment-162214</link>
		<dc:creator>Brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I even BELIEVE any 21st century person voted for the Stupak amendment? I cannot. Or that there&#039;s any reason, strategic or otherwise, why Joe Lieberman hasn&#039;t been invited to caucus with a jar of hand cream, much less keep his committee chairmanship? I don&#039;t get that, either.

But the thing is, I know that people who were not in the meetings *I* was in might see some of my work&#039;s outcome as equally bizarre. I was a gay rights activist when Clinton decided to &quot;pay back gay support&quot; by starting that DADT business. I was totally WTF????????? Could you THINK of an initiative more likely to derail your presidency, sir? Suddenly we&#039;re in the &quot;buggery in uniform fest.&quot; I&#039;d have gone for more money for public health, and the Shepard act, myself, sir.

But I wasn&#039;t there. I used to argue with WIC about the cereals covered by their program. I was right about those, too. But they&#039;re handing out SOME cereal, which is better than nothing. I don&#039;t know that what we&#039;ll wind up with is better than nothing  and the pissing contest aspect just makes me want to snatch away their lollipops, but I&#039;m trying to see what comes of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I even BELIEVE any 21st century person voted for the Stupak amendment? I cannot. Or that there&#8217;s any reason, strategic or otherwise, why Joe Lieberman hasn&#8217;t been invited to caucus with a jar of hand cream, much less keep his committee chairmanship? I don&#8217;t get that, either.</p>
<p>But the thing is, I know that people who were not in the meetings *I* was in might see some of my work&#8217;s outcome as equally bizarre. I was a gay rights activist when Clinton decided to &#8220;pay back gay support&#8221; by starting that DADT business. I was totally WTF????????? Could you THINK of an initiative more likely to derail your presidency, sir? Suddenly we&#8217;re in the &#8220;buggery in uniform fest.&#8221; I&#8217;d have gone for more money for public health, and the Shepard act, myself, sir.</p>
<p>But I wasn&#8217;t there. I used to argue with WIC about the cereals covered by their program. I was right about those, too. But they&#8217;re handing out SOME cereal, which is better than nothing. I don&#8217;t know that what we&#8217;ll wind up with is better than nothing  and the pissing contest aspect just makes me want to snatch away their lollipops, but I&#8217;m trying to see what comes of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Geezer</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/25/tom-carper-never-lets-go-the-rightwing-talking-points/#comment-162212</link>
		<dc:creator>Geezer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brooke: I hear you, and I sympathize. My fear is that health care has long since ceased to be about fixing what&#039;s wrong with our jury-rigged system, and has become a contest of strength and will. JTF is asking us to back whatever comes out of negotiations, but why? Just to prove we can do it?

If this bill were the result of true compromise, I&#039;d be all for it. But it&#039;s not. The opponents aren&#039;t trying to create a better bill -- they&#039;re fighting to make us accept a fatally flawed bill. When it fails to better the situation, those same opponents will claim government can&#039;t do anything right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brooke: I hear you, and I sympathize. My fear is that health care has long since ceased to be about fixing what&#8217;s wrong with our jury-rigged system, and has become a contest of strength and will. JTF is asking us to back whatever comes out of negotiations, but why? Just to prove we can do it?</p>
<p>If this bill were the result of true compromise, I&#8217;d be all for it. But it&#8217;s not. The opponents aren&#8217;t trying to create a better bill &#8212; they&#8217;re fighting to make us accept a fatally flawed bill. When it fails to better the situation, those same opponents will claim government can&#8217;t do anything right.</p>
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		<title>By: Belinsky</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/25/tom-carper-never-lets-go-the-rightwing-talking-points/#comment-162210</link>
		<dc:creator>Belinsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geezer&#039;s guy mulling another run for the roses.

http://www.mydd.com/story/2009/11/27/195937/93#commenttop</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geezer&#8217;s guy mulling another run for the roses.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mydd.com/story/2009/11/27/195937/93#commenttop" rel="nofollow">http://www.mydd.com/story/2009/11/27/195937/93#commenttop</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brooke</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/25/tom-carper-never-lets-go-the-rightwing-talking-points/#comment-162205</link>
		<dc:creator>Brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geezer, I used to feel more like you do, and now I feel more like JTF does, and who knows, next week.
I work in the smallest level of government, in an environment where &quot;R&quot; and &quot;D&quot; doesn&#039;t come into it. And we do something difficult. And just to get ONE difficult thing done... not done perfectly, or with full consensus, but completed on schedule, requires months of listening and trying to respect each other, and understanding where people are coming from. There are people I LOATHE that I wind up agreeing with, and people I adore who make NO sense at all in these contexts. There&#039;s the ideal, which no one holds more dearly than I do, and there&#039;s what will get enough votes AND create no uproar among the electorate. And it matters what the electorate thinks, because  they elected all of us, and they deserve to be represented. Even by idiots. Even by idiots like ME. I have a responsibility to our governing documents, I have a responsibility to the folks who elect us, and I have a responsibility to my own conscience. What I don&#039;t have is a magic wand.

I worry that what we pass in #hcr will be worse than what we have, hard as that is for me to imagine.  I worry that we don&#039;t pass anything, and incumbents of both parties will be tossed out for the hard right AND left, and things get even nastier and more blocked up. But I don&#039;t envy anyone in Congress right now. Darn few of them have magic wands either, and I&#039;ll bet I&#039;m not the only one losing sleep about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geezer, I used to feel more like you do, and now I feel more like JTF does, and who knows, next week.<br />
I work in the smallest level of government, in an environment where &#8220;R&#8221; and &#8220;D&#8221; doesn&#8217;t come into it. And we do something difficult. And just to get ONE difficult thing done&#8230; not done perfectly, or with full consensus, but completed on schedule, requires months of listening and trying to respect each other, and understanding where people are coming from. There are people I LOATHE that I wind up agreeing with, and people I adore who make NO sense at all in these contexts. There&#8217;s the ideal, which no one holds more dearly than I do, and there&#8217;s what will get enough votes AND create no uproar among the electorate. And it matters what the electorate thinks, because  they elected all of us, and they deserve to be represented. Even by idiots. Even by idiots like ME. I have a responsibility to our governing documents, I have a responsibility to the folks who elect us, and I have a responsibility to my own conscience. What I don&#8217;t have is a magic wand.</p>
<p>I worry that what we pass in #hcr will be worse than what we have, hard as that is for me to imagine.  I worry that we don&#8217;t pass anything, and incumbents of both parties will be tossed out for the hard right AND left, and things get even nastier and more blocked up. But I don&#8217;t envy anyone in Congress right now. Darn few of them have magic wands either, and I&#8217;ll bet I&#8217;m not the only one losing sleep about this.</p>
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		<title>By: Frieda Berryhill</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/25/tom-carper-never-lets-go-the-rightwing-talking-points/#comment-162192</link>
		<dc:creator>Frieda Berryhill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 06:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JTF just does not get it 
&quot;Frieda – You want to have a conversation about public-financing of campaigns,......
No I understand the system, but when fast talking Tom has to get together with a republican to put more $Billions in subsidies
 into the energy budget for the nuclear energy guys I smell a big rat. Only massive public objection foiled his plan. I happen to know a little bit about that. AND you can goggle it. You see unlike you I am nmot afraif\d to use MY NAME,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JTF just does not get it<br />
&#8220;Frieda – You want to have a conversation about public-financing of campaigns,&#8230;&#8230;<br />
No I understand the system, but when fast talking Tom has to get together with a republican to put more $Billions in subsidies<br />
 into the energy budget for the nuclear energy guys I smell a big rat. Only massive public objection foiled his plan. I happen to know a little bit about that. AND you can goggle it. You see unlike you I am nmot afraif\d to use MY NAME,</p>
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		<title>By: Letty Loose Lips</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/25/tom-carper-never-lets-go-the-rightwing-talking-points/#comment-162187</link>
		<dc:creator>Letty Loose Lips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 02:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carper: a wind up Ken doll.....just need to know who holds the 
key(s).</description>
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key(s).</p>
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		<title>By: Geezer</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/25/tom-carper-never-lets-go-the-rightwing-talking-points/#comment-162186</link>
		<dc:creator>Geezer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 02:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Healthcare reform, in the end, won’t be passed because of anything progressives have done, but in spite of them.&quot;

And, as a consequence, the resulting health care &quot;reform&quot; will be a horrible, expensive botch. Better no bill, frankly, than a 2,000-page gift to the insurance industry.

I don&#039;t really care about whether Democrats get elected or not, particularly if they&#039;re the sort of Democrats who, in the pinch, tend to vote like Republicans. You seem to have bought into the inside-the-beltway mentality that it&#039;s more important to pass something than to pass something that will work. 

The reason Democrats get their asses handed to them routinely is their quivering fear of getting their asses handed to them. They try to protect themselves by caving in routinely, and the result is that nobody respects them -- even those of us who routinely vote for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Healthcare reform, in the end, won’t be passed because of anything progressives have done, but in spite of them.&#8221;</p>
<p>And, as a consequence, the resulting health care &#8220;reform&#8221; will be a horrible, expensive botch. Better no bill, frankly, than a 2,000-page gift to the insurance industry.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really care about whether Democrats get elected or not, particularly if they&#8217;re the sort of Democrats who, in the pinch, tend to vote like Republicans. You seem to have bought into the inside-the-beltway mentality that it&#8217;s more important to pass something than to pass something that will work. </p>
<p>The reason Democrats get their asses handed to them routinely is their quivering fear of getting their asses handed to them. They try to protect themselves by caving in routinely, and the result is that nobody respects them &#8212; even those of us who routinely vote for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Von Cracker</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/25/tom-carper-never-lets-go-the-rightwing-talking-points/#comment-162177</link>
		<dc:creator>Von Cracker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 01:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see Carper being more of a wet rag on health care than anything else. 

No matter what happens, TC will ride this issue out.  He played it well, hate to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see Carper being more of a wet rag on health care than anything else. </p>
<p>No matter what happens, TC will ride this issue out.  He played it well, hate to say.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Matthews</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/25/tom-carper-never-lets-go-the-rightwing-talking-points/#comment-162175</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Matthews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 01:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow...the Tom Carper flaks are particularly fierce and feisty tonight! Looks like the tryptophan had the reverse-effect on JTF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;the Tom Carper flaks are particularly fierce and feisty tonight! Looks like the tryptophan had the reverse-effect on JTF.</p>
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