Comments on: Parents

By: A. price

A. price — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:09:21 +0000

“so this is what it takes to get the left to celebrate a live birth”

well, usually we like to eat it.

By: cassandra_m

cassandra_m — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:16:48 +0000

We celebrate live births all of the time — unlike you we don’t try to impose any sense of illegitimacy on said live birth. These parents wanted their new baby, which is about all that matters and is worth celebrating here.

By: Progressive Mom

Progressive Mom — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:11:36 +0000

But what does it take to get the right to care for the already-born? Like with health care?

By: Delaware Dem

Delaware Dem — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:05:40 +0000

I am now convinced that Lizard is Sarah Palin. Only Palin can sound so incoherent.

By: lizard

lizard — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:03:10 +0000

so this is what it takes to get the left to celebrate a live birth.

By: h.

h. — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:53:30 +0000

“No, it is sad for R. David and others, because, not content to live their own lives, they have to assign value judgments and emotional states to *other* people’s lives.

Isn’t each one of us busy enough trying to sort out our own lives, without imposing our thoughts/feelings/emotions/idealizations on others?? ”

Unfortunately, both sides of the political spectrum are guilty of the above.

By: Delaware Dem

Delaware Dem — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:57:18 +0000

There are two truths in life. Love does conquer all. And death comes to us all. These truths apply both individually and to society as a whole. Slowly, over successive generations, bigotry is dying, as those who spew the vile toxins of hate die. You just need to look at our history over the last 50 years to see that is true. In the 1960’s, conservative Republicans and conservative Democrats openly used the “N-word” in opposition to the Civil Rights bill on the Senate floor.

Now we have a black President.

And while that fact seems to have brought more racism to light, it is only because those racists left are making a final scream.

The same will happen with homosexuality and the bigotry against it.

By: Ergonomic

Ergonomic — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:48:44 +0000

Yes. An DelDem’s original assertion … Amor Vincit Omnia … Love Conquers All … Can’t get enough of that. It is steadily conquering racism, sexism, homophobia, xenophobia. Amen.

By: xstryker

xstryker — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:32:07 +0000

V is the winner of this debate.

God makes the gay people. He also loves all his children.

By: Ergonomic

Ergonomic — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:24:45 +0000

Good point – I once again was speedy on the edit button, coming to the same realization as you, liberalgeek.

By: liberalgeek

liberalgeek — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:20:50 +0000

It should be noted that one should not assume that R.D. is white. He is presumptively male and quite possibly hetero.

By: Ergonomic

Ergonomic — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:12:47 +0000

“It is a sad that this child is being condemned to being raised without a father by choice.”

Good grief – what an exercise is story-telling.

Sad for whom and why? For the child? How could we possibly know if the child’s life is sad because of the absence of a male in the family?

Sad for the two women? doesn’t seem so.

And condemned. Condemned? Is not having a guy in the house some form of hell or something? What a ‘god’ complex, and by this I mean a male hetero ‘god’ – how can you make such a judgment?

No, it is sad for R. David and others, because, not content to live their own lives, they have to assign value judgments and emotional states to *other* people’s lives.

Isn’t each one of us busy enough trying to sort out our own lives, without imposing our thoughts/feelings/emotions/idealizations on others??

We should be.

By: V

Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:12:37 +0000

Also Davey, clearly the presence of a father is necessary for the raising of a healthy child. That’s why those situations where parents who are unhappy but “stay together for the children” work out so well.

By: Scott P

Scott P — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:01:19 +0000

That’s a great point, arthur. If the great crime is that children are being raised in a household without a mother and a father, then couples with children should be prohibited from divorcing. Not to mention the forced marrying of single pregnant women.

By: arthur

arthur — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:38:36 +0000

David – 50% of american marriages end in divorce. Whose choice is it to condemn children to be raised in that environment?