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		<title>By: lizard</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/20/friday-open-thread-9/#comment-161429</link>
		<dc:creator>lizard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>E-mail leak turns up heat on global warming advocates
Boston Herald ^ &#124; November 21, 2009 &#124; Herald staff 


In an embarrassing blow to the movement to combat global warming, hackers have posted hundreds of e-mails from a world-renowned British institute that show researchers colluding to exaggerate warming and undermine skeptics. 

University of East Anglia officials confirmed the Climate Research Unit’s e-mails were hacked, but were unable to confirm the veracity of posted content... 

“This is not a smoking gun, this is a mushroom cloud,” climatologist Patrick J. Michaels told the New York Times [NYT] 

The Times contacted researchers who confirmed they had sent or received some of the most damning e-mails, including a discussion of how to use a “trick” to configure scientific data to “hide the decline.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>E-mail leak turns up heat on global warming advocates<br />
Boston Herald ^ | November 21, 2009 | Herald staff </p>
<p>In an embarrassing blow to the movement to combat global warming, hackers have posted hundreds of e-mails from a world-renowned British institute that show researchers colluding to exaggerate warming and undermine skeptics. </p>
<p>University of East Anglia officials confirmed the Climate Research Unit’s e-mails were hacked, but were unable to confirm the veracity of posted content&#8230; </p>
<p>“This is not a smoking gun, this is a mushroom cloud,” climatologist Patrick J. Michaels told the New York Times [NYT] </p>
<p>The Times contacted researchers who confirmed they had sent or received some of the most damning e-mails, including a discussion of how to use a “trick” to configure scientific data to “hide the decline.”</p>
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		<title>By: lizard</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/20/friday-open-thread-9/#comment-161344</link>
		<dc:creator>lizard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CERN atom-smasher restarts after 14-month hiatus: official
AFP on Yahoo ^ &#124; 11/20/09 &#124; AFP 


GENEVA (AFP) – The world&#039;s biggest atom-smasher, shut down after its inauguration in September 2008 amid technical faults, restarted on Friday, a spokesman for the European Organisation for Nuclear Research said. 

&quot;The first tests of injecting sub-atomic particles began around 1600 (1500 GMT),&quot; CERN spokesman James Gillies told AFP. 

He said the injections lasted a fraction of a second, enough for &quot;a half or even a complete circuit&quot; of the Large Hadron Collider built in a 27-kilometre (17-mile) long tunnel straddling the Franco-Swiss border near Geneva. 

&quot;If all goes well tonight we will try to circulate a beam of particles for several minutes around 0700 (0600 GMT),&quot; on Saturday, Gillies said, adding that he would open a bottle of champagne if the accelerator kept on working. 

The LHC promises to unlock scientific mysteries about the creation of the Universe and the fundamental nature of matter. 

But the machine was shut down just nine days after its inauguration last September following a series of technical faults. 

Since then, the LHC&#039;s components have been tested to an energy equivalent of five teraelectronvolts at full power. 

The maximum output of what is currently the largest functioning collider in the world, at the Fermilab near Chicago in the United States, is one teraelectronvolt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CERN atom-smasher restarts after 14-month hiatus: official<br />
AFP on Yahoo ^ | 11/20/09 | AFP </p>
<p>GENEVA (AFP) – The world&#8217;s biggest atom-smasher, shut down after its inauguration in September 2008 amid technical faults, restarted on Friday, a spokesman for the European Organisation for Nuclear Research said. </p>
<p>&#8220;The first tests of injecting sub-atomic particles began around 1600 (1500 GMT),&#8221; CERN spokesman James Gillies told AFP. </p>
<p>He said the injections lasted a fraction of a second, enough for &#8220;a half or even a complete circuit&#8221; of the Large Hadron Collider built in a 27-kilometre (17-mile) long tunnel straddling the Franco-Swiss border near Geneva. </p>
<p>&#8220;If all goes well tonight we will try to circulate a beam of particles for several minutes around 0700 (0600 GMT),&#8221; on Saturday, Gillies said, adding that he would open a bottle of champagne if the accelerator kept on working. </p>
<p>The LHC promises to unlock scientific mysteries about the creation of the Universe and the fundamental nature of matter. </p>
<p>But the machine was shut down just nine days after its inauguration last September following a series of technical faults. </p>
<p>Since then, the LHC&#8217;s components have been tested to an energy equivalent of five teraelectronvolts at full power. </p>
<p>The maximum output of what is currently the largest functioning collider in the world, at the Fermilab near Chicago in the United States, is one teraelectronvolt.</p>
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		<title>By: Unstable Isotope</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/20/friday-open-thread-9/#comment-161321</link>
		<dc:creator>Unstable Isotope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good luck MJ!</description>
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		<title>By: MJ</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/20/friday-open-thread-9/#comment-161320</link>
		<dc:creator>MJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rehoboth Beach Marathon and Half-marathon tomorrow.  Excited as it&#039;s my first half-marathon after 4 months of training.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rehoboth Beach Marathon and Half-marathon tomorrow.  Excited as it&#8217;s my first half-marathon after 4 months of training.</p>
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		<title>By: Progressive Mom</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/20/friday-open-thread-9/#comment-161308</link>
		<dc:creator>Progressive Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott, the senator&#039;s statement may have been unintentional, but he does have a way with words:

Last year, when debating a school funding bill, he said:
&quot;This baby is black, I&#039;ll tell you. This is a dark, ugly thing.&quot;

He later apologized on the Senate floor.  It was white of him, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott, the senator&#8217;s statement may have been unintentional, but he does have a way with words:</p>
<p>Last year, when debating a school funding bill, he said:<br />
&#8220;This baby is black, I&#8217;ll tell you. This is a dark, ugly thing.&#8221;</p>
<p>He later apologized on the Senate floor.  It was white of him, no?</p>
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		<title>By: Progressive Mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Progressive Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee, those folks in the video are acting like she&#039;s the Messiah or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, those folks in the video are acting like she&#8217;s the Messiah or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Unstable Isotope</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/20/friday-open-thread-9/#comment-161300</link>
		<dc:creator>Unstable Isotope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rumproast.com/index.php/site/comments/video_of_angry_wingnuts_booing_sarah_palin_calling_her_a_quitter_chantin/#When:14:48:31Z&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sarah Palin is winning friends and influencing people by not even staying to sign the books of people who waited in line all day.&lt;/a&gt;  We know that Saint Sarah&#039;s time is precious.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.rumproast.com/index.php/site/comments/video_of_angry_wingnuts_booing_sarah_palin_calling_her_a_quitter_chantin/#When:14:48:31Z" rel="nofollow">Sarah Palin is winning friends and influencing people by not even staying to sign the books of people who waited in line all day.</a>  We know that Saint Sarah&#8217;s time is precious.</p>
<p><object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/A8mAZhOJIfI&#038;rel=0&#038;color1=0xe1600f&#038;color2=0xfebd01&#038;hl=en_US&#038;feature=player_embedded&#038;fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/A8mAZhOJIfI&#038;rel=0&#038;color1=0xe1600f&#038;color2=0xfebd01&#038;hl=en_US&#038;feature=player_embedded&#038;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="425" height="344"></embed></object></p>
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		<title>By: RSmitty</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/20/friday-open-thread-9/#comment-161297</link>
		<dc:creator>RSmitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>El Som...
:twisted:
That one&#039;s for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>El Som&#8230;<br />
 <img src='http://www.delawareliberal.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif' alt=':twisted:' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
That one&#8217;s for you.</p>
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		<title>By: a.price</title>
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		<dc:creator>a.price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hacked, lizard?  really?  that is as valid as &quot;heard someone say it on the train&quot;.  
Tell ya what lizard.  I will buy and ad in the news journal saying global warming is &quot;a made up scam by the socialist nazi democrats in order to control our lives&quot;    i swear ot to you i will do that IF you move to Ridley Park pa. or Marcus Hook, or anywhere near the Honeywell spew-finery and dont have health problems within a year. 
Bad news?  Really?   you think we WANT global warming?  Unlike conservunists who NEED and CRAVE terrorist attacks to they can continue to legitimize their pathetic existence, the whole focus of the green movement is to stop the potential, and if it doesn&#039;t happen, hooray!  the side effect will be we have cleaner air which you CANT argue.... unless of course you want to take me  up on my bed and live near the polluters you claim are harmless.  

So interesting a movement that claims religion as it&#039;s own.... a religion that teaches humanity and tells its followers to take care of each other. Even if you don&#039;t know them... even if you don&#039;t LIKE them... interesting how conservatives STILL side with faceless soulless businesses every time rather than actual humans......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hacked, lizard?  really?  that is as valid as &#8220;heard someone say it on the train&#8221;.<br />
Tell ya what lizard.  I will buy and ad in the news journal saying global warming is &#8220;a made up scam by the socialist nazi democrats in order to control our lives&#8221;    i swear ot to you i will do that IF you move to Ridley Park pa. or Marcus Hook, or anywhere near the Honeywell spew-finery and dont have health problems within a year.<br />
Bad news?  Really?   you think we WANT global warming?  Unlike conservunists who NEED and CRAVE terrorist attacks to they can continue to legitimize their pathetic existence, the whole focus of the green movement is to stop the potential, and if it doesn&#8217;t happen, hooray!  the side effect will be we have cleaner air which you CANT argue&#8230;. unless of course you want to take me  up on my bed and live near the polluters you claim are harmless.  </p>
<p>So interesting a movement that claims religion as it&#8217;s own&#8230;. a religion that teaches humanity and tells its followers to take care of each other. Even if you don&#8217;t know them&#8230; even if you don&#8217;t LIKE them&#8230; interesting how conservatives STILL side with faceless soulless businesses every time rather than actual humans&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: El Somnambulo</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/20/friday-open-thread-9/#comment-161288</link>
		<dc:creator>El Somnambulo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cogitated, I agonized, I contemplated, I dithered, and I ultimately prayed on whether RSmitty should be released from moderation.

The Lord sayeth, &quot;Let him out, but no emoticons! Now, if you&#039;ll excuse me,  there&#039;s a Monsignor Lavelle on the other line seeking my endorsement for reelection. Who the bleep is Monsignor Lavelle? Is he a real monsignor, or is he a Sears monsignor?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cogitated, I agonized, I contemplated, I dithered, and I ultimately prayed on whether RSmitty should be released from moderation.</p>
<p>The Lord sayeth, &#8220;Let him out, but no emoticons! Now, if you&#8217;ll excuse me,  there&#8217;s a Monsignor Lavelle on the other line seeking my endorsement for reelection. Who the bleep is Monsignor Lavelle? Is he a real monsignor, or is he a Sears monsignor?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: liberalgeek</title>
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		<dc:creator>liberalgeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, Smitty, I have been heads down all day and just saw that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, Smitty, I have been heads down all day and just saw that.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott P</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/20/friday-open-thread-9/#comment-161285</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s my entry for Best (Hopefully) Unintentionally Hilarious Anti-Gay Statement, from Utah state Senator Chris Buttars (R, like you had to ask): &quot;I meet with the gays here and there. They were in my house two weeks ago. I don’t mind gays. But I don’t want ‘em stuffing it down my throat all the time. Certainly not in my kid’s face.&quot;

Plus, I would be remiss if I did not point out that his name does, indeed include &quot;butt&quot;.

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/11/20/utah-senator-shove-throat/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s my entry for Best (Hopefully) Unintentionally Hilarious Anti-Gay Statement, from Utah state Senator Chris Buttars (R, like you had to ask): &#8220;I meet with the gays here and there. They were in my house two weeks ago. I don’t mind gays. But I don’t want ‘em stuffing it down my throat all the time. Certainly not in my kid’s face.&#8221;</p>
<p>Plus, I would be remiss if I did not point out that his name does, indeed include &#8220;butt&#8221;.</p>
<p><a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2009/11/20/utah-senator-shove-throat/" rel="nofollow">http://thinkprogress.org/2009/11/20/utah-senator-shove-throat/</a></p>
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		<title>By: RSmitty</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/20/friday-open-thread-9/#comment-161284</link>
		<dc:creator>RSmitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm...I done gone to moderation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230;I done gone to moderation!</p>
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		<title>By: RSmitty</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/20/friday-open-thread-9/#comment-161283</link>
		<dc:creator>RSmitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is it we all &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20091120/BUSINESS/91120014/Valero+s+Delaware+City+refinery+closing&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;missed this&lt;/a&gt;?  This is pretty damned big news for this area.

If this is it, that site is done forever, clean it the hell up, don&#039;t let it be a decaying craphole...oh, sort of like what Metachem did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is it we all <a href="http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20091120/BUSINESS/91120014/Valero+s+Delaware+City+refinery+closing" rel="nofollow">missed this</a>?  This is pretty damned big news for this area.</p>
<p>If this is it, that site is done forever, clean it the hell up, don&#8217;t let it be a decaying craphole&#8230;oh, sort of like what Metachem did.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They do manage to stay on message all the time.  I wonder how much of each day is spent studying and memorizing the talking points.  I wonder if that time might be better spent studying and learning about the actual issue.  I must be losing my mind here -- what a ridiculous thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They do manage to stay on message all the time.  I wonder how much of each day is spent studying and memorizing the talking points.  I wonder if that time might be better spent studying and learning about the actual issue.  I must be losing my mind here &#8212; what a ridiculous thought.</p>
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