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		<title>By: Scott P</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/18/wednesday-open-thread-10/#comment-161082</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have the answer! It&#039;s a trick question! They BOTH make no sense.

However, it does raise the longstanding point that I just made up that the publishing industry could $1,000,000 millions by just doing away with vowels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the answer! It&#8217;s a trick question! They BOTH make no sense.</p>
<p>However, it does raise the longstanding point that I just made up that the publishing industry could $1,000,000 millions by just doing away with vowels.</p>
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		<title>By: nemski</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/18/wednesday-open-thread-10/#comment-161076</link>
		<dc:creator>nemski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What makes more sense, lizards comment at 9:58 or this:




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What makes more sense, lizards comment at 9:58 or this:</p>
<p>l J s dng bng-p jb f kpng trck f tht prkls mn! Fr Hw Phntm Dstrcts Rcv $,, Mlln n Stmls Fnds fr . Jbs wtchdg.rg ^ | Nvmbr , | Wtchdg.rg Hw rcvd $,, mlln f fdrl stmls fnds fr th th Cngrssnl dstrct, $,, mlln fr th th Cngrssnl dstrct, $,, fr th Cngrssnl dstrct, nd $, n th th cngrssnl dstrct crtng cmbnd . jbs r $,, pr jb, ccrdng t th fdrl gvrnmnts trnsprnc wb st fr stmls fnds, <a href="http://www.Rcvr.gv/.Hwvr" rel="nofollow">http://www.Rcvr.gv/.Hwvr</a>, Hw hs jst tw cngrssnl dstrcts, nd . Ths dstrcts rcvd $,, mlln nd $,, rspctvl, ccrdng t th fdrl wb st, crtng cmbnd ttl f ,. jbs. S th fll rprt n Hw hr: <a href="http://www.rcvr.gv/Trnsprnc/SttSmmrs/Pgs/sttsmmr.spx?SttCd=H" rel="nofollow">http://www.rcvr.gv/Trnsprnc/SttSmmrs/Pgs/sttsmmr.spx?SttCd=H</a></p>
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		<title>By: Unstable Isotope</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/18/wednesday-open-thread-10/#comment-161068</link>
		<dc:creator>Unstable Isotope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$45 trillion?  We don&#039;t see that kind of money a lot unless we&#039;re talking about how much U.S. government money that Halliburton and KBR have wasted in Iraq.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$45 trillion?  We don&#8217;t see that kind of money a lot unless we&#8217;re talking about how much U.S. government money that Halliburton and KBR have wasted in Iraq.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott P</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/18/wednesday-open-thread-10/#comment-161067</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe Biden explained it the other night on The Daily Show. I think it was no more devious than some people marking down the wrong district. 

And since I know lizzie loves typos so much, I hope this is one. 45,639,408 Million dollars is a lot. If true, they got over $45 trillion dollars. Sweet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe Biden explained it the other night on The Daily Show. I think it was no more devious than some people marking down the wrong district. </p>
<p>And since I know lizzie loves typos so much, I hope this is one. 45,639,408 Million dollars is a lot. If true, they got over $45 trillion dollars. Sweet.</p>
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		<title>By: nemski</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/18/wednesday-open-thread-10/#comment-161064</link>
		<dc:creator>nemski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over 130,000 reports submitted, they&#039;re going through them one and a time to verify.

But you already know this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over 130,000 reports submitted, they&#8217;re going through them one and a time to verify.</p>
<p>But you already know this.</p>
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		<title>By: lizard</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/18/wednesday-open-thread-10/#comment-161062</link>
		<dc:creator>lizard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ole&#039; Joe is doing a bang-up job of keeping track of that porkulus money!


Four Hawaii Phantom Districts Receive $45,639,408 Million in Stimulus Funds for 3.4 Jobs 

watchdog.org ^ &#124; November 17, 2009 &#124; Watchdog.org
Hawaii received $2,284,000 million of federal stimulus funds for the 11the Congressional district, $40,903,941 million for the 15th Congressional district, $1,651,811 for the “00” Congressional district, and $799,656 in the 99th congressional district creating a combined “3.4” jobs or $13,423,355 per job, according to the federal government’s transparency web site for stimulus funds, http://www.Recovery.gov/.However, Hawaii has just two congressional districts, 1 and 2. Those districts received $592,211,484 million and $174,075,308 respectively, according to the federal web site, creating combined total of 1,541.5 jobs. See the full report on Hawaii here: http://www.recovery.gov/Transparency/StateSummaries/Pages/statesummary.aspx?StateCode=HI</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ole&#8217; Joe is doing a bang-up job of keeping track of that porkulus money!</p>
<p>Four Hawaii Phantom Districts Receive $45,639,408 Million in Stimulus Funds for 3.4 Jobs </p>
<p>watchdog.org ^ | November 17, 2009 | Watchdog.org<br />
Hawaii received $2,284,000 million of federal stimulus funds for the 11the Congressional district, $40,903,941 million for the 15th Congressional district, $1,651,811 for the “00” Congressional district, and $799,656 in the 99th congressional district creating a combined “3.4” jobs or $13,423,355 per job, according to the federal government’s transparency web site for stimulus funds, <a href="http://www.Recovery.gov/.However" rel="nofollow">http://www.Recovery.gov/.However</a>, Hawaii has just two congressional districts, 1 and 2. Those districts received $592,211,484 million and $174,075,308 respectively, according to the federal web site, creating combined total of 1,541.5 jobs. See the full report on Hawaii here: <a href="http://www.recovery.gov/Transparency/StateSummaries/Pages/statesummary.aspx?StateCode=HI" rel="nofollow">http://www.recovery.gov/Transparency/StateSummaries/Pages/statesummary.aspx?StateCode=HI</a></p>
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		<title>By: anone</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/18/wednesday-open-thread-10/#comment-161045</link>
		<dc:creator>anone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rebecca,

I see your point. BTW, I noticed the democrats health care bill is now online. Can anyone tell me where the GOP Health care bill is? Is it online somewhere? Oro they not believe in transparency? Or did they just fail to get a bill done to present their solutions and ideas to the American public?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rebecca,</p>
<p>I see your point. BTW, I noticed the democrats health care bill is now online. Can anyone tell me where the GOP Health care bill is? Is it online somewhere? Oro they not believe in transparency? Or did they just fail to get a bill done to present their solutions and ideas to the American public?</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/18/wednesday-open-thread-10/#comment-161042</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anone,
I couldn&#039;t agree more, but my point was that the whining and whinging from the conservatives (both R&#039;s and D&#039;s) doesn&#039;t reflect the fact that we already conceded the real-deal and are starting from some point far less than perfect.  I don&#039;t believe in letting perfection stand in the way of progress and this bill is progress.  But my hackles rise when they start to complain that they were&#039;t given a chance to participate.  Their very existence defined the opening salvo on health care reform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anone,<br />
I couldn&#8217;t agree more, but my point was that the whining and whinging from the conservatives (both R&#8217;s and D&#8217;s) doesn&#8217;t reflect the fact that we already conceded the real-deal and are starting from some point far less than perfect.  I don&#8217;t believe in letting perfection stand in the way of progress and this bill is progress.  But my hackles rise when they start to complain that they were&#8217;t given a chance to participate.  Their very existence defined the opening salvo on health care reform.</p>
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		<title>By: anone</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/18/wednesday-open-thread-10/#comment-161033</link>
		<dc:creator>anone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 04:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actaully Rebecca, this is one damn good bill Mr. Reid submitted. A  preliminary Congressional Budget Office analysis, finds that the bill will cost $849 billion over the next decade. It would cover 94 percent of eligible Americans, including 31 million currently uninsured Americans. The bill would also lower the federal budget deficit by $127 billion over the next decade and by $650 billion during the decade after that. It elimiates pre-existing conditions, has a stronger public option than most people would have thought, softens the abortion language, and they may still strip the insurance industry of their anti-trust exemption. I have to admit this is far better than I thought would be possible. Democrats have been trying to pass universal health care for 60 years. There are now going to do it. As Bill Clinton said, no bill is perfect, but we have never been closer to real reform and a better system. My guess is Obama will be signing a bill similar to the bill released today sometime early next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actaully Rebecca, this is one damn good bill Mr. Reid submitted. A  preliminary Congressional Budget Office analysis, finds that the bill will cost $849 billion over the next decade. It would cover 94 percent of eligible Americans, including 31 million currently uninsured Americans. The bill would also lower the federal budget deficit by $127 billion over the next decade and by $650 billion during the decade after that. It elimiates pre-existing conditions, has a stronger public option than most people would have thought, softens the abortion language, and they may still strip the insurance industry of their anti-trust exemption. I have to admit this is far better than I thought would be possible. Democrats have been trying to pass universal health care for 60 years. There are now going to do it. As Bill Clinton said, no bill is perfect, but we have never been closer to real reform and a better system. My guess is Obama will be signing a bill similar to the bill released today sometime early next year.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that we started with a public option instead of full-on, single-payer, universal health care was a HUGE accomodation to the Corporatist GOOPers and the Blue Dogs. Well we see where that got us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that we started with a public option instead of full-on, single-payer, universal health care was a HUGE accomodation to the Corporatist GOOPers and the Blue Dogs. Well we see where that got us.</p>
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		<title>By: Delaware Dem</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/18/wednesday-open-thread-10/#comment-161004</link>
		<dc:creator>Delaware Dem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They had their chance, anone.   They chose lies, deceit, obstruction and opposition.   Indeed, many Republican ideas have already been incorporated into the bill, i.e. the Mandate and the McCain exchange.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They had their chance, anone.   They chose lies, deceit, obstruction and opposition.   Indeed, many Republican ideas have already been incorporated into the bill, i.e. the Mandate and the McCain exchange.</p>
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		<title>By: anone</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/18/wednesday-open-thread-10/#comment-161001</link>
		<dc:creator>anone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Republican leadership sent a letter to the President, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid today requesting more input from Republicans on HCR. The closing line: &quot;Cooperation, not confrontation, is a better approach.&quot; Anybody find that line downright hilarious from the party of tea smokers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Republican leadership sent a letter to the President, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid today requesting more input from Republicans on HCR. The closing line: &#8220;Cooperation, not confrontation, is a better approach.&#8221; Anybody find that line downright hilarious from the party of tea smokers?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott P</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/18/wednesday-open-thread-10/#comment-160995</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I was about to make just a quick, snarky remark, then I thought about it a bit, and it frightens me. I was going to say, &quot;Can&#039;t you see -- they have figured out that if you get enough people to say something, no matter how ridiculous, enough times, it &lt;i&gt;becomes&lt;/i&gt; real.&quot; I could call it something like The Pinocchio Fact Effect. Sadly, though, there is actually some truth to this. With the explosion of blogs and the erosion of real journalism, it becomes even easier. Look at just about the entire health care reform &quot;debate&quot;. God, I need a drink...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I was about to make just a quick, snarky remark, then I thought about it a bit, and it frightens me. I was going to say, &#8220;Can&#8217;t you see &#8212; they have figured out that if you get enough people to say something, no matter how ridiculous, enough times, it <i>becomes</i> real.&#8221; I could call it something like The Pinocchio Fact Effect. Sadly, though, there is actually some truth to this. With the explosion of blogs and the erosion of real journalism, it becomes even easier. Look at just about the entire health care reform &#8220;debate&#8221;. God, I need a drink&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: cassandra_m</title>
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		<dc:creator>cassandra_m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I listened to the first 10 minutes of that call and that in itself was interesting -- they are creating their own blog site (presumably so they won&#039;t be censored, but wonder how they&#039;ll figure out how to get money from the suckers) AND they are trying to get blogs in 50 states so that they create their own &quot;go to&quot; news.  You heard that right -- this is a topdown effort to create just one more venue for the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy, Teabagger Edition.  :roll:  Too bad these people still don&#039;t get the business of grassroots.  Too bad the media will rush to legitimize this bullshit they same way they legitimize the rest of their bullshit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I listened to the first 10 minutes of that call and that in itself was interesting &#8212; they are creating their own blog site (presumably so they won&#8217;t be censored, but wonder how they&#8217;ll figure out how to get money from the suckers) AND they are trying to get blogs in 50 states so that they create their own &#8220;go to&#8221; news.  You heard that right &#8212; this is a topdown effort to create just one more venue for the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy, Teabagger Edition.  <img src='http://www.delawareliberal.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' />   Too bad these people still don&#8217;t get the business of grassroots.  Too bad the media will rush to legitimize this bullshit they same way they legitimize the rest of their bullshit.</p>
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		<title>By: a.price</title>
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		<dc:creator>a.price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there isnt even a typo. its a read-o on lizard&#039;s part.  of course &quot;he&quot; will never own up to it. &quot;he&#039;ll&quot; blame it on Obama&#039;s failure to die quickly enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there isnt even a typo. its a read-o on lizard&#8217;s part.  of course &#8220;he&#8221; will never own up to it. &#8220;he&#8217;ll&#8221; blame it on Obama&#8217;s failure to die quickly enough.</p>
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