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		<title>By: a. price</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/18/it-is-time-to-do-away-with-the-old-testament/#comment-161245</link>
		<dc:creator>a. price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im speaking about the church threatening to cut off aid to the poor in Washington if they don&#039;t outlaw gay marriage. Im also talking about the psalm 109ers. I KNOW obama is safe... he has the best security force in the world. That doesn&#039;t make praying for his death any less disgusting. 

and Islam is often EVIL? Jews should be &quot;tolerated&quot;?  like a plantar wart?   you prove my point by your obvious hate speech.  and that tripe you used to &quot;make a point&quot; is just more false arch conservunist doctrine from an &quot;expert&quot; used to justify irrational fear and hate.   fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im speaking about the church threatening to cut off aid to the poor in Washington if they don&#8217;t outlaw gay marriage. Im also talking about the psalm 109ers. I KNOW obama is safe&#8230; he has the best security force in the world. That doesn&#8217;t make praying for his death any less disgusting. </p>
<p>and Islam is often EVIL? Jews should be &#8220;tolerated&#8221;?  like a plantar wart?   you prove my point by your obvious hate speech.  and that tripe you used to &#8220;make a point&#8221; is just more false arch conservunist doctrine from an &#8220;expert&#8221; used to justify irrational fear and hate.   fail.</p>
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		<title>By: mynym</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/18/it-is-time-to-do-away-with-the-old-testament/#comment-161236</link>
		<dc:creator>mynym</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m curious as to what this meant: &lt;i&gt;These “good Christians” who shun the poor, call for the death…. or murder of the president, who call Islam evil and tolorate (in public at least) Jews....&lt;/i&gt;

Your supposed concern with Christian charity is false, your dear leader is safe, Islam is often evil and Jews should be tolerated.  

Here is an interesting contrast to your pattern of thought on Islam:&lt;blockquote&gt;National Socialism cannot be understood unless it is seen “as a new Islam, its myth as a new Allah, and Hitler as this new Allah’s prophet.” It is a church, although a very secular one, of which to be a member means to affirm its principles “in the form of faith, of mysticism and fanaticism.” If it exhibits, therefore, “all the characteristics of an ‘anti-church’ fundamentally hostile to Christianity,” then it must become evident, by the way in which the church of Jesus Christ confesses its faith, that the Christian rule of faith and life and the National Socialist rule of faith and life are mutually exclusive. No peace is possible between confessing to Jesus Christ and accepting the sovereignty of National Socialism. It follows, then, that “the church may and should pray for the suppression and casting out of National Socialism, just in the same sense as in former times and when confronted by a similar danger she prayed for the ‘destruction of the bulwarks of the false prophet Mohammed.’”
This argument formed the basic content of a lecture by Barth before a meeting of the Swiss Evangelical Organization of Help for the Confessional Church in Germany on December 5, 1938. It was therefore presented in support of the Confessional churches of Germany, whose fight for the independence of the church from Nazi politics and Nazi views has attracted the attention of the entire world.
(National Socialism and Christianity: Can They Be Reconciled?
by Wilhelm Pauck
The Journal of Religion, Vol. 20, No. 1. (Jan., 1940), pp. 15-17)&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious as to what this meant: <i>These “good Christians” who shun the poor, call for the death…. or murder of the president, who call Islam evil and tolorate (in public at least) Jews&#8230;.</i></p>
<p>Your supposed concern with Christian charity is false, your dear leader is safe, Islam is often evil and Jews should be tolerated.  </p>
<p>Here is an interesting contrast to your pattern of thought on Islam:<br />
<blockquote>National Socialism cannot be understood unless it is seen “as a new Islam, its myth as a new Allah, and Hitler as this new Allah’s prophet.” It is a church, although a very secular one, of which to be a member means to affirm its principles “in the form of faith, of mysticism and fanaticism.” If it exhibits, therefore, “all the characteristics of an ‘anti-church’ fundamentally hostile to Christianity,” then it must become evident, by the way in which the church of Jesus Christ confesses its faith, that the Christian rule of faith and life and the National Socialist rule of faith and life are mutually exclusive. No peace is possible between confessing to Jesus Christ and accepting the sovereignty of National Socialism. It follows, then, that “the church may and should pray for the suppression and casting out of National Socialism, just in the same sense as in former times and when confronted by a similar danger she prayed for the ‘destruction of the bulwarks of the false prophet Mohammed.’”<br />
This argument formed the basic content of a lecture by Barth before a meeting of the Swiss Evangelical Organization of Help for the Confessional Church in Germany on December 5, 1938. It was therefore presented in support of the Confessional churches of Germany, whose fight for the independence of the church from Nazi politics and Nazi views has attracted the attention of the entire world.<br />
(National Socialism and Christianity: Can They Be Reconciled?<br />
by Wilhelm Pauck<br />
The Journal of Religion, Vol. 20, No. 1. (Jan., 1940), pp. 15-17)</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: mynym</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/18/it-is-time-to-do-away-with-the-old-testament/#comment-161235</link>
		<dc:creator>mynym</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;when they carry signs that say “we came unarmed…. this time” or pray for obama’s children to be “fatherless” .. they reveal themselves as violent people with one goal… and it isnt to make the whole country better. and dont ever call me a nazi again.&lt;/i&gt;

You&#039;re merely seeking out proto-Nazi sentiments real and imagined in order to justify your own &quot;bullshit&quot; as you put it.  Your sentiments about subhuman pigs who threaten the peace of the nation will continue to be proto-Nazi whether anyone calls them that or not.  All you need to do is include some pseudo-scientific means of eliminating them in an environmental or healthcare plan and the process will be complete.

Given the level of paranoid delusions and imbecility typical to proto-Nazis your attitudes about the Old Testament are not surprising:&lt;blockquote&gt;A Dr. Reinhardt Krause, the Berlin district leader of the sect, proposed the abandonment of the Old Testament, “with its tales of cattle merchants and pimps” and the revision of the New Testament with the teaching of Jesus “corresponding entirely with the demands of National Socialism.”
(The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich: A History of Nazi Germany
by William Shirer :237)&lt;/blockquote&gt;Whatever you say of the teachings of the Christ and loooove will correspond entirely with whatever your politics demands:&lt;blockquote&gt;    The party stands on the basis of Positive Christianity, and Positive Christianity is National Socialism . . . National Socialism is the doing of God’s will . . . God’s will reveals itself in German blood . . . Dr. Zoellner and Count Galen have tried to make clear to me that Christianity consists in faith in Christ as the Son of God. That makes me laugh . . . No, Christianity is not dependent upon the Apostle’s Creed . . . True Christianity is represented by the party, and the German people are now called by the party and especially by the Fuehrer to a real Christianity . . .
(Ib. :239)&lt;/blockquote&gt;And to the extent it does not, it will be done away with as well.  E.g.&lt;blockquote&gt;&#039;The endeavors of this organization and its leading men such as Prof. Grundmann are well meant. But there is no interest either in assimilating (angleichen) Christian teaching in national socialism or in proving that a re-shaped (umgestaltetes) Christianity is not fundamentally Jewish (keine judische Grundhaltung aufweist).&#039;
    On a specific occasion, even a more negative attitude was revealed. When several persons of the Ministry of Propaganda were invited to a meeting of the Institute in Berlin on January 15, 1942, at which Professors Grundmann and Werdermann were to lecture, a high official of the Ministry noted in pencil on the invitation: ‘If such lectures at present are considered desirable at all, they should be watched.’ 
(Hitler&#039;s Professors: The Part of Scholarship in
Germany&#039;s Crimes Against the Jewish People by Max Weinreich
(New York:The Yiddish Scientific Institute, 1946) : 67)&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>when they carry signs that say “we came unarmed…. this time” or pray for obama’s children to be “fatherless” .. they reveal themselves as violent people with one goal… and it isnt to make the whole country better. and dont ever call me a nazi again.</i></p>
<p>You&#8217;re merely seeking out proto-Nazi sentiments real and imagined in order to justify your own &#8220;bullshit&#8221; as you put it.  Your sentiments about subhuman pigs who threaten the peace of the nation will continue to be proto-Nazi whether anyone calls them that or not.  All you need to do is include some pseudo-scientific means of eliminating them in an environmental or healthcare plan and the process will be complete.</p>
<p>Given the level of paranoid delusions and imbecility typical to proto-Nazis your attitudes about the Old Testament are not surprising:<br />
<blockquote>A Dr. Reinhardt Krause, the Berlin district leader of the sect, proposed the abandonment of the Old Testament, “with its tales of cattle merchants and pimps” and the revision of the New Testament with the teaching of Jesus “corresponding entirely with the demands of National Socialism.”<br />
(The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich: A History of Nazi Germany<br />
by William Shirer :237)</p></blockquote>
<p>Whatever you say of the teachings of the Christ and loooove will correspond entirely with whatever your politics demands:<br />
<blockquote>    The party stands on the basis of Positive Christianity, and Positive Christianity is National Socialism . . . National Socialism is the doing of God’s will . . . God’s will reveals itself in German blood . . . Dr. Zoellner and Count Galen have tried to make clear to me that Christianity consists in faith in Christ as the Son of God. That makes me laugh . . . No, Christianity is not dependent upon the Apostle’s Creed . . . True Christianity is represented by the party, and the German people are now called by the party and especially by the Fuehrer to a real Christianity . . .<br />
(Ib. :239)</p></blockquote>
<p>And to the extent it does not, it will be done away with as well.  E.g.<br />
<blockquote>&#8216;The endeavors of this organization and its leading men such as Prof. Grundmann are well meant. But there is no interest either in assimilating (angleichen) Christian teaching in national socialism or in proving that a re-shaped (umgestaltetes) Christianity is not fundamentally Jewish (keine judische Grundhaltung aufweist).&#8217;<br />
    On a specific occasion, even a more negative attitude was revealed. When several persons of the Ministry of Propaganda were invited to a meeting of the Institute in Berlin on January 15, 1942, at which Professors Grundmann and Werdermann were to lecture, a high official of the Ministry noted in pencil on the invitation: ‘If such lectures at present are considered desirable at all, they should be watched.’<br />
(Hitler&#8217;s Professors: The Part of Scholarship in<br />
Germany&#8217;s Crimes Against the Jewish People by Max Weinreich<br />
(New York:The Yiddish Scientific Institute, 1946) : 67)</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Von Cracker</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/18/it-is-time-to-do-away-with-the-old-testament/#comment-161164</link>
		<dc:creator>Von Cracker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can you make a house out of brimstone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can you make a house out of brimstone?</p>
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		<title>By: Ergonomic</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/18/it-is-time-to-do-away-with-the-old-testament/#comment-161163</link>
		<dc:creator>Ergonomic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hee hee hee
Tomato/Tomato ...
Oh wait, we&#039;d have to actually be talking ...
maybe, Potato/Potato ...
No not that one either.

Sorry, it was getting way too &quot;Old Testament&quot; in here for me ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hee hee hee<br />
Tomato/Tomato &#8230;<br />
Oh wait, we&#8217;d have to actually be talking &#8230;<br />
maybe, Potato/Potato &#8230;<br />
No not that one either.</p>
<p>Sorry, it was getting way too &#8220;Old Testament&#8221; in here for me &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Von Cracker</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/18/it-is-time-to-do-away-with-the-old-testament/#comment-161162</link>
		<dc:creator>Von Cracker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No worries, Ergo, Osama/Obama - shit, mircosoft spellcheck even gets it wrong!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No worries, Ergo, Osama/Obama &#8211; shit, mircosoft spellcheck even gets it wrong!</p>
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		<title>By: V</title>
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		<dc:creator>V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why haven&#039;t we latched onto 109:10. 

Malia and Sasha as &quot;vagabonds&quot;

(sorry, &quot;vagabond&quot; is a funny word. say it. Vagabond)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why haven&#8217;t we latched onto 109:10. </p>
<p>Malia and Sasha as &#8220;vagabonds&#8221;</p>
<p>(sorry, &#8220;vagabond&#8221; is a funny word. say it. Vagabond)</p>
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		<title>By: Ergonomic</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/18/it-is-time-to-do-away-with-the-old-testament/#comment-161154</link>
		<dc:creator>Ergonomic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awwww ...
My levity got eclipsed by lines and lines of Hebrew Poetry that confirm that we really have not changed much in thousands of years ...
Can&#039;t anyone just have a laugh anymore??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awwww &#8230;<br />
My levity got eclipsed by lines and lines of Hebrew Poetry that confirm that we really have not changed much in thousands of years &#8230;<br />
Can&#8217;t anyone just have a laugh anymore??</p>
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		<title>By: pandora</title>
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		<dc:creator>pandora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lookie, lookie, Lizard posted a link, which means - from here on out - any more linkless cut and pasting will be deleted.

I&#039;m so proud of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lookie, lookie, Lizard posted a link, which means &#8211; from here on out &#8211; any more linkless cut and pasting will be deleted.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m so proud of you.</p>
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		<title>By: lizard</title>
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		<dc:creator>lizard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does Psalm 109 mean...

It is a prayer for vengance, King David of Isreal is praying to God to destroy his (David&#039;s) enemies, and to do it so thuroughly as to make an example of them.


1  Hold not thy peace, O God of my praise;
 
2  for the mouth of the wicked and the mouth of the deceitful are opened against me:
         they have spoken against me with a lying tongue. 
 
 
3  They compassed me about also with words of hatred;
         and fought against me without a cause. 
 
 
4  For my love they are my adversaries:
         but I give myself unto prayer. 
 
 
5  And they have rewarded me evil for good,
         and hatred for my love. 
 
 
6  Set thou a wicked man over him:
         and let Satan stand at his right hand. 
 
 
7  When he shall be judged, let him be condemned:
         and let his prayer become sin. 
 
 
8  Let his days be few;
         and let another take his office. Acts 1.20  
 
 
9  Let his children be fatherless,
         and his wife a widow. 
 
 
10  Let his children be continually vagabonds, and beg:
         let them seek their bread also out of their desolate places. 
 
 
11  Let the extortioner catch all that he hath;
         and let the strangers spoil his labor. 
 
 
12  Let there be none to extend mercy unto him:
         neither let there be any to favor his fatherless children. 
 
 
13  Let his posterity be cut off;
         and in the generation following let their name be blotted out. 
 
 
14  Let the iniquity of his fathers be remembered with the LORD;
         and let not the sin of his mother be blotted out. 
 
 
15  Let them be before the LORD continually,
         that he may cut off the memory of them from the earth. 
 
 
16  Because that he remembered not to show mercy,
         but persecuted the poor and needy man, 
that he might even slay the broken in heart. 
 
 
17  As he loved cursing,
         so let it come unto him: 
as he delighted not in blessing, 
so let it be far from him. 
 
 
18  As he clothed himself with cursing like as with his garment,
         so let it come into his bowels like water, 
and like oil into his bones. 
 
 
19  Let it be unto him as the garment which covereth him,
         and for a girdle wherewith he is girded continually. 
 
 
20  Let this be the reward of mine adversaries from the LORD,
         and of them that speak evil against my soul. 
 
 
21  But do thou for me, O GOD the Lord, for thy name&#039;s sake:
         because thy mercy is good, deliver thou me. 
 
 
22  For I am poor and needy,
         and my heart is wounded within me. 
 
 
23  I am gone like the shadow when it declineth:
         I am tossed up and down as the locust. 
 
 
24  My knees are weak through fasting;
         and my flesh faileth of fatness. 
 
 
25  I became also a reproach unto them:
         when they looked upon me they shook their heads. Mt. 27.39 · Mk. 15.29  
 
 
26  Help me, O LORD my God:
         O save me according to thy mercy: 
 
 
27  that they may know that this is thy hand;
         that thou, LORD, hast done it. 
 
 
28  Let them curse, but bless thou:
         when they arise, let them be ashamed; 
but let thy servant rejoice. 
 
 
29  Let mine adversaries be clothed with shame;
         and let them cover themselves with their own confusion, as with a mantle. 
 
 
30  I will greatly praise the LORD with my mouth;
         yea, I will praise him among the multitude. 
 
 
31  For he shall stand at the right hand of the poor,
         to save him from those that condemn his soul. 
 
 
for a line by line study try here: http://www.spurgeon.org/treasury/ps109.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does Psalm 109 mean&#8230;</p>
<p>It is a prayer for vengance, King David of Isreal is praying to God to destroy his (David&#8217;s) enemies, and to do it so thuroughly as to make an example of them.</p>
<p>1  Hold not thy peace, O God of my praise;</p>
<p>2  for the mouth of the wicked and the mouth of the deceitful are opened against me:<br />
         they have spoken against me with a lying tongue. </p>
<p>3  They compassed me about also with words of hatred;<br />
         and fought against me without a cause. </p>
<p>4  For my love they are my adversaries:<br />
         but I give myself unto prayer. </p>
<p>5  And they have rewarded me evil for good,<br />
         and hatred for my love. </p>
<p>6  Set thou a wicked man over him:<br />
         and let Satan stand at his right hand. </p>
<p>7  When he shall be judged, let him be condemned:<br />
         and let his prayer become sin. </p>
<p>8  Let his days be few;<br />
         and let another take his office. Acts 1.20  </p>
<p>9  Let his children be fatherless,<br />
         and his wife a widow. </p>
<p>10  Let his children be continually vagabonds, and beg:<br />
         let them seek their bread also out of their desolate places. </p>
<p>11  Let the extortioner catch all that he hath;<br />
         and let the strangers spoil his labor. </p>
<p>12  Let there be none to extend mercy unto him:<br />
         neither let there be any to favor his fatherless children. </p>
<p>13  Let his posterity be cut off;<br />
         and in the generation following let their name be blotted out. </p>
<p>14  Let the iniquity of his fathers be remembered with the LORD;<br />
         and let not the sin of his mother be blotted out. </p>
<p>15  Let them be before the LORD continually,<br />
         that he may cut off the memory of them from the earth. </p>
<p>16  Because that he remembered not to show mercy,<br />
         but persecuted the poor and needy man,<br />
that he might even slay the broken in heart. </p>
<p>17  As he loved cursing,<br />
         so let it come unto him:<br />
as he delighted not in blessing,<br />
so let it be far from him. </p>
<p>18  As he clothed himself with cursing like as with his garment,<br />
         so let it come into his bowels like water,<br />
and like oil into his bones. </p>
<p>19  Let it be unto him as the garment which covereth him,<br />
         and for a girdle wherewith he is girded continually. </p>
<p>20  Let this be the reward of mine adversaries from the LORD,<br />
         and of them that speak evil against my soul. </p>
<p>21  But do thou for me, O GOD the Lord, for thy name&#8217;s sake:<br />
         because thy mercy is good, deliver thou me. </p>
<p>22  For I am poor and needy,<br />
         and my heart is wounded within me. </p>
<p>23  I am gone like the shadow when it declineth:<br />
         I am tossed up and down as the locust. </p>
<p>24  My knees are weak through fasting;<br />
         and my flesh faileth of fatness. </p>
<p>25  I became also a reproach unto them:<br />
         when they looked upon me they shook their heads. Mt. 27.39 · Mk. 15.29  </p>
<p>26  Help me, O LORD my God:<br />
         O save me according to thy mercy: </p>
<p>27  that they may know that this is thy hand;<br />
         that thou, LORD, hast done it. </p>
<p>28  Let them curse, but bless thou:<br />
         when they arise, let them be ashamed;<br />
but let thy servant rejoice. </p>
<p>29  Let mine adversaries be clothed with shame;<br />
         and let them cover themselves with their own confusion, as with a mantle. </p>
<p>30  I will greatly praise the LORD with my mouth;<br />
         yea, I will praise him among the multitude. </p>
<p>31  For he shall stand at the right hand of the poor,<br />
         to save him from those that condemn his soul. </p>
<p>for a line by line study try here: <a href="http://www.spurgeon.org/treasury/ps109.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.spurgeon.org/treasury/ps109.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ergonomic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ergonomic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhh my beloved public.
I have returned to the minor fray and flap that I created, to say, &quot;all is well, and all manner of things should be well&quot;. 

Wait - does this mean I have a gift for politics???

Yes, I was wrong. It happened at least once before. :)
Sorry VC.
I *despise* it when people make up slurs on a person&#039;s name.
WHich I realize you were not doing.

No - no gift for politics.
I just admitted I was wrong and apologized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhh my beloved public.<br />
I have returned to the minor fray and flap that I created, to say, &#8220;all is well, and all manner of things should be well&#8221;. </p>
<p>Wait &#8211; does this mean I have a gift for politics???</p>
<p>Yes, I was wrong. It happened at least once before. <img src='http://www.delawareliberal.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Sorry VC.<br />
I *despise* it when people make up slurs on a person&#8217;s name.<br />
WHich I realize you were not doing.</p>
<p>No &#8211; no gift for politics.<br />
I just admitted I was wrong and apologized.</p>
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		<title>By: a.price</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/18/it-is-time-to-do-away-with-the-old-testament/#comment-161128</link>
		<dc:creator>a.price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when they carry signs that say &quot;we came unarmed.... this time&quot;  or pray for obama&#039;s children to be &quot;fatherless&quot; .. they reveal themselves as violent people with one goal... and it isnt to make the whole country better. and dont ever call me a nazi again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when they carry signs that say &#8220;we came unarmed&#8230;. this time&#8221;  or pray for obama&#8217;s children to be &#8220;fatherless&#8221; .. they reveal themselves as violent people with one goal&#8230; and it isnt to make the whole country better. and dont ever call me a nazi again.</p>
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		<title>By: mynym</title>
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		<dc:creator>mynym</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Eternal hellfire awaits them all.&lt;/i&gt;

I thought you were against* the Old Testament and so on?  

&lt;i&gt;Indeed, I enjoy the ironic image of those “religious” conservatives shoveling ash in Hell with the likes of Pol Pot, Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin...&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s ironic that you&#039;ve had to apologize for proto-Nazi tendencies in the past and yet now you&#039;re condemning the tradition and history of &quot;wandering goat herders&quot; and so on as the Nazis put it.  

&lt;i&gt;No, today I will turn my ire against the Old Testament of the Bible, the text that provides these “religious” conservatives with their murderous ideas in the first place. Let me ask you a question.
  Has any other book been responsible for more death and destruction over the last 5,000 years that this one?&lt;/i&gt;

You might as well just call it the &quot;Jewish influence&quot; and seek to censor it, given how dangerous it supposedly is:&lt;blockquote&gt;13. The National Church demands immediate cessation of the publishing and dissemination of the Bible in Germany. (The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich: A History of Nazi Germany
by William L. Shirer (Simon and Schuster) 1990 :23)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;i&gt;All sorts of depravity are justified by its text. Slavery....&lt;/i&gt;

And yet history shows that abolitionists were inspired by biblical patterns:&lt;blockquote&gt;Familiarity with that great story of redemption, when God raised up the slave-born Moses to deliver His chosen people from bondage, and with that sublimer story where our Saviour died a cruel death that all men, without distinction of race, might be saved, makes slavery impossible. Because Christians are in the minority there is no reason for renouncing Christianity, or for surrendering to the false religions....
--Charles Sumner, abolitionist and one of the founders of the Republican Party&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;i&gt;To this day, David Anderson opposes homosexuality simply because the Old Testament says it is an abomination.&lt;/i&gt;

Anyone who recognizes that men and women are distinct and complementary may oppose sexual disorientations, as that&#039;s generally the point of Jewish traditions:&lt;blockquote&gt; Most of the [Judaic] rules of the law of holiness relate to the basic categories of the natural world and of human experience. Such categories as the living and the dead; mortal and divine; human and animal; air, sea, and land; male and female; past, present and future are common to most peoples. They provide a framework of basic &#039;natural&#039; categories that render the universe meaningful. What is peculiar to the Jewish people is that these natural categories are also moral categories and anything that is ambiguous or threatens to blur the boundaries of these categories is treated as abominable.
(Sexual Taboos and Social Boundaries by Christie Davies
American Journal of Sociology,
Vol. 87, No.5, Mar., 1982 :1032-1063)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;i&gt;To this day, people use its text to justify their wrongful behavior. Revenge is justified by the Old Testament. Discrimination is justified by the Old Testament. Hatred is justified by the Old Testament.&lt;/i&gt;

If you were really concerned about hatred and discrimination you would be dealing with your own instead of projecting it onto others.  

&lt;i&gt;I am content to follow the New Testament and his commandment that we love rather than hate each other.&lt;/i&gt;

Lol... Bullshit.  

*For those interested in the unfathomable stupidity typical to proto-Nazis with respect to tolerance here is a historical example:&lt;blockquote&gt;Pound complained that whereas polytheistic cultures were pluralistic, monotheism asserted one “universal truth” for everyone.’ He blamed Jewish monotheism for the West’s “intolerance, monopoly, and uniformity.”’
    The irony of a fascist attacking intolerance becomes most grotesque in Mein Kampf. Hitler has been arguing that opposing positions must not be tolerated; he then backpedals, remembering the notion that intolerance comes from the Jews:
    &#039;The objection may very well be raised that such phenomena in world history [the necessity of intolerance] arise for the most part from specifically Jewish modes of thought, in fact, that this type of intolerance and fanaticism positively embodies the Jewish nature.  [and the Old Testament]
    This may be a thousand times true; we may deeply regret this fact and establish with justifiable loathing that its appearance in the history of mankind is something that was previously alien to history—yet this does not alter the fact that this condition is with us today.&#039;
    In other words, the Jews with their absolute morality invented intolerance; therefore, they shall not be tolerated.
(Modern Fascism: Liquidating the JudeoChristian
Worldview by Gene Veith, 1993 (Concordia Publishing House) :46)&lt;/blockquote&gt;  Other proto-Nazi sentiments expressed here: 
&quot;These people are disgusting pigs.  ...sub-human behavior.  They pose a threat to the peace and stability of the nation.&quot;  And so on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Eternal hellfire awaits them all.</i></p>
<p>I thought you were against* the Old Testament and so on?  </p>
<p><i>Indeed, I enjoy the ironic image of those “religious” conservatives shoveling ash in Hell with the likes of Pol Pot, Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin&#8230;</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s ironic that you&#8217;ve had to apologize for proto-Nazi tendencies in the past and yet now you&#8217;re condemning the tradition and history of &#8220;wandering goat herders&#8221; and so on as the Nazis put it.  </p>
<p><i>No, today I will turn my ire against the Old Testament of the Bible, the text that provides these “religious” conservatives with their murderous ideas in the first place. Let me ask you a question.<br />
  Has any other book been responsible for more death and destruction over the last 5,000 years that this one?</i></p>
<p>You might as well just call it the &#8220;Jewish influence&#8221; and seek to censor it, given how dangerous it supposedly is:<br />
<blockquote>13. The National Church demands immediate cessation of the publishing and dissemination of the Bible in Germany. (The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich: A History of Nazi Germany<br />
by William L. Shirer (Simon and Schuster) 1990 :23)</p></blockquote>
<p><i>All sorts of depravity are justified by its text. Slavery&#8230;.</i></p>
<p>And yet history shows that abolitionists were inspired by biblical patterns:<br />
<blockquote>Familiarity with that great story of redemption, when God raised up the slave-born Moses to deliver His chosen people from bondage, and with that sublimer story where our Saviour died a cruel death that all men, without distinction of race, might be saved, makes slavery impossible. Because Christians are in the minority there is no reason for renouncing Christianity, or for surrendering to the false religions&#8230;.<br />
&#8211;Charles Sumner, abolitionist and one of the founders of the Republican Party</p></blockquote>
<p><i>To this day, David Anderson opposes homosexuality simply because the Old Testament says it is an abomination.</i></p>
<p>Anyone who recognizes that men and women are distinct and complementary may oppose sexual disorientations, as that&#8217;s generally the point of Jewish traditions:<br />
<blockquote> Most of the [Judaic] rules of the law of holiness relate to the basic categories of the natural world and of human experience. Such categories as the living and the dead; mortal and divine; human and animal; air, sea, and land; male and female; past, present and future are common to most peoples. They provide a framework of basic &#8216;natural&#8217; categories that render the universe meaningful. What is peculiar to the Jewish people is that these natural categories are also moral categories and anything that is ambiguous or threatens to blur the boundaries of these categories is treated as abominable.<br />
(Sexual Taboos and Social Boundaries by Christie Davies<br />
American Journal of Sociology,<br />
Vol. 87, No.5, Mar., 1982 :1032-1063)</p></blockquote>
<p><i>To this day, people use its text to justify their wrongful behavior. Revenge is justified by the Old Testament. Discrimination is justified by the Old Testament. Hatred is justified by the Old Testament.</i></p>
<p>If you were really concerned about hatred and discrimination you would be dealing with your own instead of projecting it onto others.  </p>
<p><i>I am content to follow the New Testament and his commandment that we love rather than hate each other.</i></p>
<p>Lol&#8230; Bullshit.  </p>
<p>*For those interested in the unfathomable stupidity typical to proto-Nazis with respect to tolerance here is a historical example:<br />
<blockquote>Pound complained that whereas polytheistic cultures were pluralistic, monotheism asserted one “universal truth” for everyone.’ He blamed Jewish monotheism for the West’s “intolerance, monopoly, and uniformity.”’<br />
    The irony of a fascist attacking intolerance becomes most grotesque in Mein Kampf. Hitler has been arguing that opposing positions must not be tolerated; he then backpedals, remembering the notion that intolerance comes from the Jews:<br />
    &#8216;The objection may very well be raised that such phenomena in world history [the necessity of intolerance] arise for the most part from specifically Jewish modes of thought, in fact, that this type of intolerance and fanaticism positively embodies the Jewish nature.  [and the Old Testament]<br />
    This may be a thousand times true; we may deeply regret this fact and establish with justifiable loathing that its appearance in the history of mankind is something that was previously alien to history—yet this does not alter the fact that this condition is with us today.&#8217;<br />
    In other words, the Jews with their absolute morality invented intolerance; therefore, they shall not be tolerated.<br />
(Modern Fascism: Liquidating the JudeoChristian<br />
Worldview by Gene Veith, 1993 (Concordia Publishing House) :46)</p></blockquote>
<p>  Other proto-Nazi sentiments expressed here:<br />
&#8220;These people are disgusting pigs.  &#8230;sub-human behavior.  They pose a threat to the peace and stability of the nation.&#8221;  And so on.</p>
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		<title>By: a.price</title>
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		<dc:creator>a.price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it would sure help Sarah the Twit fight the ter&#039;rists</description>
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		<title>By: D.C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>D.C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, according to your logic, should we be doing away with the Koran as well?</description>
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