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		<title>By: Brooke</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/06/an-epic-around-the-horn-friday-the-returns/comment-page-1/#comment-159406</link>
		<dc:creator>Brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went over and had a short conversation with DB. Emphasis short. Don&#039;t get what y&#039;all see in this, guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went over and had a short conversation with DB. Emphasis short. Don&#8217;t get what y&#8217;all see in this, guys.</p>
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		<title>By: pandora</title>
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		<dc:creator>pandora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s flippin&#039; all over the map, UI.  It makes my head spin.</description>
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		<title>By: Unstable Isotope</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unstable Isotope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pandora,

I think he must have cut down on the coffee or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pandora,</p>
<p>I think he must have cut down on the coffee or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Kilroy</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/06/an-epic-around-the-horn-friday-the-returns/comment-page-1/#comment-159126</link>
		<dc:creator>Kilroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nancy Willing
 &quot;I wouldn’t miss it for the world.&quot;
Great I&#039;ll see you there! Bring Brooke with you and we can talk about the domestic violence call the American Revolution led by America&#039;s number one terrorist George Washington, LOL ! Just joking Brooke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nancy Willing<br />
 &#8220;I wouldn’t miss it for the world.&#8221;<br />
Great I&#8217;ll see you there! Bring Brooke with you and we can talk about the domestic violence call the American Revolution led by America&#8217;s number one terrorist George Washington, LOL ! Just joking Brooke.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Willing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy Willing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Kilroy, yes, I am going to have to hunt down Ralph Nelson and buy a luncheon ticket but I wouldn&#039;t miss it for the world. 

I had the presenter, Mike Gallagher, in the Newark Library reference room for hours showing him all the best reading, citations, maps and where the best files are hidden!! I can&#039;t wait to see what he has done with the information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Kilroy, yes, I am going to have to hunt down Ralph Nelson and buy a luncheon ticket but I wouldn&#8217;t miss it for the world. </p>
<p>I had the presenter, Mike Gallagher, in the Newark Library reference room for hours showing him all the best reading, citations, maps and where the best files are hidden!! I can&#8217;t wait to see what he has done with the information.</p>
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		<title>By: Kilroy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kilroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It’s a sad piece of our history…as was the following shooting at Jackson State. And it’s a miserable, FAIL as a parallel to the shootings at Ft. Hood.&quot;

One thing for sure our history holds many sad events. No sure how old you are but me I remember when JFK was killed and all the events from there on. Prior to that when the government told you to duck and cover in the event of a nuclear war you believed them.  

I see you point re: Ft Hood as it was a man angry at the military due his personal situation and time will tell if any other war protest was motivations. As I stated, I doubt he was assoicated with a terrorist group and if he was I am sure the event would have been worst! 

&quot;The kids who were SHOT were not necessarily protesting&quot; I get your point but for sure the events the civil unrest was related to protesting the war. 

So let&#039;s not talk about Abbie Hoffman, LOL !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s a sad piece of our history…as was the following shooting at Jackson State. And it’s a miserable, FAIL as a parallel to the shootings at Ft. Hood.&#8221;</p>
<p>One thing for sure our history holds many sad events. No sure how old you are but me I remember when JFK was killed and all the events from there on. Prior to that when the government told you to duck and cover in the event of a nuclear war you believed them.  </p>
<p>I see you point re: Ft Hood as it was a man angry at the military due his personal situation and time will tell if any other war protest was motivations. As I stated, I doubt he was assoicated with a terrorist group and if he was I am sure the event would have been worst! </p>
<p>&#8220;The kids who were SHOT were not necessarily protesting&#8221; I get your point but for sure the events the civil unrest was related to protesting the war. </p>
<p>So let&#8217;s not talk about Abbie Hoffman, LOL !</p>
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		<title>By: Brooke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kilroy, if it&#039;s not a reading comprehension issue, I can help you out. Direct from activist survivor Alan Canfora :

&quot;A total of 67 gunshots were fired by the guardsmen from the hilltop. Most of the bullets were fired over 300 feet into the distant Prentice Hall parking lot. Two of the students killed, Allison Krause and Jeff Miller, were protesters. Two others, Sandy Scheuer and Bill Schroeder were bystanders. Jeff was killed 275 feet away from his killer. Allison was 350 feet away. Sandy and Bill were approximately 390 feet away.

Nine others, including myself, were wounded. Dean Kahler remains in a wheelchair after he was shot in the back.&quot;

The kids who were SHOT were not necessarily protesting. They were sniper targets. We&#039;ll probably never know why they were, individually, targeted, because, in my opinion, justice was entirely delayed on this, as a result of government pressure. The shooters were not held accountable.

It&#039;s a sad piece of our history...as was the following shooting at Jackson State. And it&#039;s a miserable, FAIL as a parallel to the shootings at Ft. Hood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kilroy, if it&#8217;s not a reading comprehension issue, I can help you out. Direct from activist survivor Alan Canfora :</p>
<p>&#8220;A total of 67 gunshots were fired by the guardsmen from the hilltop. Most of the bullets were fired over 300 feet into the distant Prentice Hall parking lot. Two of the students killed, Allison Krause and Jeff Miller, were protesters. Two others, Sandy Scheuer and Bill Schroeder were bystanders. Jeff was killed 275 feet away from his killer. Allison was 350 feet away. Sandy and Bill were approximately 390 feet away.</p>
<p>Nine others, including myself, were wounded. Dean Kahler remains in a wheelchair after he was shot in the back.&#8221;</p>
<p>The kids who were SHOT were not necessarily protesting. They were sniper targets. We&#8217;ll probably never know why they were, individually, targeted, because, in my opinion, justice was entirely delayed on this, as a result of government pressure. The shooters were not held accountable.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a sad piece of our history&#8230;as was the following shooting at Jackson State. And it&#8217;s a miserable, FAIL as a parallel to the shootings at Ft. Hood.</p>
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		<title>By: Kilroy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kilroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brooke wins, Kent State students were not protesting the war in Vietnam and Nixon&#039;s decision to move into Cambodia. 

Hey Nancy weren&#039;t you alive back then? LOL! 
FYI,  Will you be attending the SAR lecture on the 14th?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brooke wins, Kent State students were not protesting the war in Vietnam and Nixon&#8217;s decision to move into Cambodia. </p>
<p>Hey Nancy weren&#8217;t you alive back then? LOL!<br />
FYI,  Will you be attending the SAR lecture on the 14th?</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Willing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy Willing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some interesting correlations:

http://exiledonline.com/fort-hood-massacre-a-brief-history-of-american-violence/

For starters, Fort Hood is located in Killeen, Texas — where one of the deadliest rampage shootings in American history took place in 1991, when an unemployed ex-Navy enlistee, George Hennard Jr., crashed his pickup into a popular cafeteria, pulled out two handguns (Hasan also used two handguns), and murdered 23 people before taking his own life. The day before the massacre, Hennard was eating a hamburger in a local restaurant watching the Clarence Thomas confirmation hearings and, according to the manager, “When an interview with Anita Hill came on, he just went off. He started screaming, ‘You dumb bitch! You bastards opened the door for all the women!’”
So yesterday’s Fort Hood shooting isn’t the worst or most deranged mass-killing in Killeen’s history — not by a longshot. The mainstream media is enabling the screaming about the Muslim traitors in our midst, but Hasan killed far fewer Americans than the white, racist George Hennard. And they were bested by the federal government in nearby Waco Texas, in 1993, when federal forces slaughtered some 75 men, women and children in the Branch Davidian compound.
But in what may seem like a strange coincidence, Maj. Hasan and Killeen are connected to another American shooting rampage. Killeen held the record for America’s worst shooting massacre until 2007, when Virginia Tech student Seung-Hui Cho shot and killed 33 fellow students. And Malik Nadal Hasan graduated from Virginia Tech in 1997. Both Hasan and Cho were bullied and harassed – Hasan’s cousin told reporters that after 9/11, his military comrades regularly abused him, calling him “camel jockey.” But the cousin insisted that Hasan’s opposition to the war didn’t grow out of the bullying, but rather from the stories he heard while interning as a psychiatric counselor to veterans from the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some interesting correlations:</p>
<p><a href="http://exiledonline.com/fort-hood-massacre-a-brief-history-of-american-violence/" rel="nofollow">http://exiledonline.com/fort-hood-massacre-a-brief-history-of-american-violence/</a></p>
<p>For starters, Fort Hood is located in Killeen, Texas — where one of the deadliest rampage shootings in American history took place in 1991, when an unemployed ex-Navy enlistee, George Hennard Jr., crashed his pickup into a popular cafeteria, pulled out two handguns (Hasan also used two handguns), and murdered 23 people before taking his own life. The day before the massacre, Hennard was eating a hamburger in a local restaurant watching the Clarence Thomas confirmation hearings and, according to the manager, “When an interview with Anita Hill came on, he just went off. He started screaming, ‘You dumb bitch! You bastards opened the door for all the women!’”<br />
So yesterday’s Fort Hood shooting isn’t the worst or most deranged mass-killing in Killeen’s history — not by a longshot. The mainstream media is enabling the screaming about the Muslim traitors in our midst, but Hasan killed far fewer Americans than the white, racist George Hennard. And they were bested by the federal government in nearby Waco Texas, in 1993, when federal forces slaughtered some 75 men, women and children in the Branch Davidian compound.<br />
But in what may seem like a strange coincidence, Maj. Hasan and Killeen are connected to another American shooting rampage. Killeen held the record for America’s worst shooting massacre until 2007, when Virginia Tech student Seung-Hui Cho shot and killed 33 fellow students. And Malik Nadal Hasan graduated from Virginia Tech in 1997. Both Hasan and Cho were bullied and harassed – Hasan’s cousin told reporters that after 9/11, his military comrades regularly abused him, calling him “camel jockey.” But the cousin insisted that Hasan’s opposition to the war didn’t grow out of the bullying, but rather from the stories he heard while interning as a psychiatric counselor to veterans from the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Willing</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/06/an-epic-around-the-horn-friday-the-returns/comment-page-1/#comment-159085</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy Willing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don’t have to be a psychologist to see that Protack is on the fast track to a complete mental breakdown.

*
you know, when I first heard that the DE GOP might run Protack for a county council seat I thought it might work. But this shit he spews shows me that he&#039;s a fool and a blowhard and we don&#039;t need him anywhere near a body politic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don’t have to be a psychologist to see that Protack is on the fast track to a complete mental breakdown.</p>
<p>*<br />
you know, when I first heard that the DE GOP might run Protack for a county council seat I thought it might work. But this shit he spews shows me that he&#8217;s a fool and a blowhard and we don&#8217;t need him anywhere near a body politic.</p>
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		<title>By: Brooke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pandora?

Blood sugar. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pandora?</p>
<p>Blood sugar. <img src='http://www.delawareliberal.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Willing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy Willing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The murderous coward had bought his schooling by cutting a deal with the military. They paid for his education and he had to work for the them. I know a guy who joined the military and got a few years into an engineering degree before deciding that it wasn&#039;t for him. They let him out of his contract but he owed them every penny that his education cost them. This guy wanted out. 

If the military had just cut him loose and told him that he owed them the balance of the cost of his education then we&#039;d not have seen this horrible outcome. 

He was tortured by his work and the conflicts with his religion not to mention that he was seriously unstable. 
The military can be one hell of a fucked up entity.
This guy should have been handled long ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The murderous coward had bought his schooling by cutting a deal with the military. They paid for his education and he had to work for the them. I know a guy who joined the military and got a few years into an engineering degree before deciding that it wasn&#8217;t for him. They let him out of his contract but he owed them every penny that his education cost them. This guy wanted out. </p>
<p>If the military had just cut him loose and told him that he owed them the balance of the cost of his education then we&#8217;d not have seen this horrible outcome. </p>
<p>He was tortured by his work and the conflicts with his religion not to mention that he was seriously unstable.<br />
The military can be one hell of a fucked up entity.<br />
This guy should have been handled long ago.</p>
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		<title>By: pandora</title>
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		<dc:creator>pandora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could someone explain to me how Kilroy went from this:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Domestic violence !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Come on this was a Muslim extremist attack! His target was american soldiers!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

To this:

&lt;blockquote&gt;For sure the story will be told and I’ll bet no terrorist group assoication.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

... in less than 24 hours?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could someone explain to me how Kilroy went from this:</p>
<blockquote><p>Domestic violence !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Come on this was a Muslim extremist attack! His target was american soldiers!</p></blockquote>
<p>To this:</p>
<blockquote><p>For sure the story will be told and I’ll bet no terrorist group assoication.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230; in less than 24 hours?</p>
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		<title>By: Brooke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you suppose that list of the killed and wounded would prove? That your Google works?

No, actually, THIS: &quot;“During a press conference, Governor Rhodes called the protesters un-American and referred to the protesters as revolutionaries set on destroying higher education in Ohio. “They’re worse than the brown shirts and the communist element and also the night riders and the vigilantes,” Rhodes said. “They’re the worst type of people that we harbor in America. I think that we’re up against the strongest, well-trained, militant, revolutionary group that has ever assembled in America.”

“Rhodes also claimed he would obtain a court order declaring a state of emergency, banning further demonstrations, and gave the impression that a situation akin to martial law had been declared; however he never attempted to obtain such an order.”

is the evidence supporting THIS: &quot;The shootings at Kent State were in a context of civil unrest. There had already been vandalism and arson when the protest convened. The guardsmen were supposed to be under orders.”

In the case of Kent State, the National Guard were sent to quell dissent, and had been talked into seeing campus kids as an armed and dangerous enemy. It was the GOVERNMENT holding the weapons.

You can&#039;t see this as a comment on war, for exactly the reason you cite, that the kids targeted weren&#039;t even attending the protest, mostly.


In the case at Fort Hood, an individual shot up his workplace. Another one did in Orlando, if no one has noticed. :( Was he also saying something about war?

Sloppy thinking. I hate that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you suppose that list of the killed and wounded would prove? That your Google works?</p>
<p>No, actually, THIS: &#8220;“During a press conference, Governor Rhodes called the protesters un-American and referred to the protesters as revolutionaries set on destroying higher education in Ohio. “They’re worse than the brown shirts and the communist element and also the night riders and the vigilantes,” Rhodes said. “They’re the worst type of people that we harbor in America. I think that we’re up against the strongest, well-trained, militant, revolutionary group that has ever assembled in America.”</p>
<p>“Rhodes also claimed he would obtain a court order declaring a state of emergency, banning further demonstrations, and gave the impression that a situation akin to martial law had been declared; however he never attempted to obtain such an order.”</p>
<p>is the evidence supporting THIS: &#8220;The shootings at Kent State were in a context of civil unrest. There had already been vandalism and arson when the protest convened. The guardsmen were supposed to be under orders.”</p>
<p>In the case of Kent State, the National Guard were sent to quell dissent, and had been talked into seeing campus kids as an armed and dangerous enemy. It was the GOVERNMENT holding the weapons.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t see this as a comment on war, for exactly the reason you cite, that the kids targeted weren&#8217;t even attending the protest, mostly.</p>
<p>In the case at Fort Hood, an individual shot up his workplace. Another one did in Orlando, if no one has noticed. <img src='http://www.delawareliberal.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  Was he also saying something about war?</p>
<p>Sloppy thinking. I hate that.</p>
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		<title>By: Unstable Isotope</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unstable Isotope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, we&#039;ll have to wait and see what the investigation digs up I think.  I think it&#039;s completely possible that Hasan was not truthful with his family since he hadn&#039;t told them he was being deployed to Iraq either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, we&#8217;ll have to wait and see what the investigation digs up I think.  I think it&#8217;s completely possible that Hasan was not truthful with his family since he hadn&#8217;t told them he was being deployed to Iraq either.</p>
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