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		<title>By: anonone</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/02/monday-open-thread-8/#comment-157922</link>
		<dc:creator>anonone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geezer, I appreciate your kindness, and I agree 100% with &quot;he deserves pity more than hatred.&quot; 

I also believe that his lies should be exposed for what they are, regardless of his intentions. Nemski got it exactly right &quot;Republican David might be earnest, but he is not free of deceit, hypocrisy or falseness.&quot;

Personally, I don&#039;t think he is even earnest. I think he is a total fraud. And I do pity that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geezer, I appreciate your kindness, and I agree 100% with &#8220;he deserves pity more than hatred.&#8221; </p>
<p>I also believe that his lies should be exposed for what they are, regardless of his intentions. Nemski got it exactly right &#8220;Republican David might be earnest, but he is not free of deceit, hypocrisy or falseness.&#8221;</p>
<p>Personally, I don&#8217;t think he is even earnest. I think he is a total fraud. And I do pity that.</p>
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		<title>By: Geezer</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/02/monday-open-thread-8/#comment-157893</link>
		<dc:creator>Geezer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back to David: He comes from an absolutist religious tradition -- one that insists it is best and seeks to proselytize others and marginalize those who resist -- so it shouldn&#039;t be surprising that he&#039;s an absolutist when it comes to politics. His take on politics is absurd. Abortion is not a political issue, but he and his ilk always seek to make it illegal because they cannot convince women not to have them. And, at root, the staunch anti-abortion people reveal their true agenda when you suggest they join with liberals in making birth control easier to get. They&#039;re against that, because the real issue isn&#039;t the baby -- they&#039;re in favor of you having a baby as the &quot;natural&quot; result of indulging in sex. They are sad, frightened people, all the more frightening because they are so fearful.

We often talk here about the difference between liberals and conservatives. I think it is this: Conservatives are afraid of &quot;the other,&quot; and, given their propensity for dividing all groups into &quot;us&quot; and &quot;them,&quot; that makes them see danger almost everywhere. There has been recent research showing this to be true -- conservatives have brain circuitry more sensitive to perceived danger than do liberals.

Look at David&#039;s stated fear: liberals are destroying America. Of course, he&#039;s got the causality wrong: America is changing, just as it always has, and liberals are less afraid of that than conservatives are. But conservatives throughout our history have said exactly the same things David says, and clearly they weren&#039;t right, or America wouldn&#039;t have become the most powerful nation on earth -- it would have been destroyed by the liberals of the 1820s, and 1840s, and 1860s, etc., etc., etc.

So try to be gentle. Though he is dangerous in his ignorance, he deserves pity more than hatred.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back to David: He comes from an absolutist religious tradition &#8212; one that insists it is best and seeks to proselytize others and marginalize those who resist &#8212; so it shouldn&#8217;t be surprising that he&#8217;s an absolutist when it comes to politics. His take on politics is absurd. Abortion is not a political issue, but he and his ilk always seek to make it illegal because they cannot convince women not to have them. And, at root, the staunch anti-abortion people reveal their true agenda when you suggest they join with liberals in making birth control easier to get. They&#8217;re against that, because the real issue isn&#8217;t the baby &#8212; they&#8217;re in favor of you having a baby as the &#8220;natural&#8221; result of indulging in sex. They are sad, frightened people, all the more frightening because they are so fearful.</p>
<p>We often talk here about the difference between liberals and conservatives. I think it is this: Conservatives are afraid of &#8220;the other,&#8221; and, given their propensity for dividing all groups into &#8220;us&#8221; and &#8220;them,&#8221; that makes them see danger almost everywhere. There has been recent research showing this to be true &#8212; conservatives have brain circuitry more sensitive to perceived danger than do liberals.</p>
<p>Look at David&#8217;s stated fear: liberals are destroying America. Of course, he&#8217;s got the causality wrong: America is changing, just as it always has, and liberals are less afraid of that than conservatives are. But conservatives throughout our history have said exactly the same things David says, and clearly they weren&#8217;t right, or America wouldn&#8217;t have become the most powerful nation on earth &#8212; it would have been destroyed by the liberals of the 1820s, and 1840s, and 1860s, etc., etc., etc.</p>
<p>So try to be gentle. Though he is dangerous in his ignorance, he deserves pity more than hatred.</p>
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		<title>By: RSmitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>RSmitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn, I was looking forward to a box of hotdogs for the fans.  See?  Myers is a jackass!  :-P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, I was looking forward to a box of hotdogs for the fans.  See?  Myers is a jackass!  <img src='http://www.delawareliberal.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Geezer</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/02/monday-open-thread-8/#comment-157877</link>
		<dc:creator>Geezer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RSmitty: He&#039;s a free agent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RSmitty: He&#8217;s a free agent.</p>
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		<title>By: nemski</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/02/monday-open-thread-8/#comment-157876</link>
		<dc:creator>nemski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Utley&#039;s getting neutered today.

Oh yeah, I&#039;m talking about Utley my Cocker Spaniel puppy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Utley&#8217;s getting neutered today.</p>
<p>Oh yeah, I&#8217;m talking about Utley my Cocker Spaniel puppy.</p>
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		<title>By: RSmitty</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/02/monday-open-thread-8/#comment-157872</link>
		<dc:creator>RSmitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nemski - if you find a report on the entire interview with Hamels where that &quot;...ready for the season to be over...&quot; comment came from, you will see that the media totally bastardized the entire interview for a glory moment.  I can say with confidence today that Hamels was totally wronged in that.  Given all that and that Myers is part of that team, Myers is a total jackass.  It&#039;s time to trade him for a box of hot dogs for the concession stand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nemski &#8211; if you find a report on the entire interview with Hamels where that &#8220;&#8230;ready for the season to be over&#8230;&#8221; comment came from, you will see that the media totally bastardized the entire interview for a glory moment.  I can say with confidence today that Hamels was totally wronged in that.  Given all that and that Myers is part of that team, Myers is a total jackass.  It&#8217;s time to trade him for a box of hot dogs for the concession stand.</p>
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		<title>By: nemski</title>
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		<dc:creator>nemski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anonone, might have a point.

The definition of sincere:

&lt;blockquote&gt;free of deceit, hypocrisy, or falseness; earnest&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Republican David might be earnest, but he is not free of deceit, hypocrisy or falseness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anonone, might have a point.</p>
<p>The definition of sincere:</p>
<blockquote><p>free of deceit, hypocrisy, or falseness; earnest</p></blockquote>
<p>Republican David might be earnest, but he is not free of deceit, hypocrisy or falseness.</p>
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		<title>By: nemski</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/02/monday-open-thread-8/#comment-157870</link>
		<dc:creator>nemski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rsmitty, classic.

&lt;blockquote&gt;What are you doing here? I thought you quit.
- Meyers to Hamels&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Classic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rsmitty, classic.</p>
<blockquote><p>What are you doing here? I thought you quit.<br />
- Meyers to Hamels</p></blockquote>
<p>Classic.</p>
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		<title>By: RSmitty</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/02/monday-open-thread-8/#comment-157869</link>
		<dc:creator>RSmitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A1 - sincere isn&#039;t fact, it&#039;s belief.  That&#039;s the point.  The guy believes everything he writes, even when he contradicts himself.

So, has anyone seen the total circle jerk he, Frank, and Pat Fish are dancing over there now?  Honestly, I feel threatened by them.  No, not physically, but in other ways.  It&#039;s really bad (OK, maybe good for you).  There is no reconciliation.

BTW, remember yesterday how David claimed he wanted a moderate purge?  Well today, he says he doesn&#039;t.  WTF?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A1 &#8211; sincere isn&#8217;t fact, it&#8217;s belief.  That&#8217;s the point.  The guy believes everything he writes, even when he contradicts himself.</p>
<p>So, has anyone seen the total circle jerk he, Frank, and Pat Fish are dancing over there now?  Honestly, I feel threatened by them.  No, not physically, but in other ways.  It&#8217;s really bad (OK, maybe good for you).  There is no reconciliation.</p>
<p>BTW, remember yesterday how David claimed he wanted a moderate purge?  Well today, he says he doesn&#8217;t.  WTF?</p>
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		<title>By: cassandra_m</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/02/monday-open-thread-8/#comment-157867</link>
		<dc:creator>cassandra_m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It is Ross Perot who balanced the budget and stood up against both parties sale out of the middle class.&lt;/i&gt;

This may be sincere, but it is sincerely wrong.  And that is the whole problem with assessing &quot;sincerity&quot;.  It goes as far as what his leaders tell him every day.  If the radio handlers and Fox Noise went on a jihad against Perot, he would be sincerely here telling us that Perot almost drove America off of the cliff.

The sincerity is in the slavishiness to other people&#039;s opinions and directions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It is Ross Perot who balanced the budget and stood up against both parties sale out of the middle class.</i></p>
<p>This may be sincere, but it is sincerely wrong.  And that is the whole problem with assessing &#8220;sincerity&#8221;.  It goes as far as what his leaders tell him every day.  If the radio handlers and Fox Noise went on a jihad against Perot, he would be sincerely here telling us that Perot almost drove America off of the cliff.</p>
<p>The sincerity is in the slavishiness to other people&#8217;s opinions and directions.</p>
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		<title>By: anonone</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/02/monday-open-thread-8/#comment-157866</link>
		<dc:creator>anonone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find him insincere and blatantly dishonest because time and time again he writes comments that are overtly and incontrovertibly factually incorrect, and when it is pointed out to him, he doesn&#039;t respond. 

A great example is torture. In spite of the incontrovertible evidence that people were tortured to death under the Bush administration, he insists that it wasn&#039;t torture and the techniques were fine and dandy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find him insincere and blatantly dishonest because time and time again he writes comments that are overtly and incontrovertibly factually incorrect, and when it is pointed out to him, he doesn&#8217;t respond. </p>
<p>A great example is torture. In spite of the incontrovertible evidence that people were tortured to death under the Bush administration, he insists that it wasn&#8217;t torture and the techniques were fine and dandy.</p>
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		<title>By: RSmitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>RSmitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steaksauce, in perspective of what Geezer says, I, too believe the segregationist is indeed sincere.  He is very sincere in what he presents to us all, in that he 100% believes everything he says.  I don&#039;t doubt that one bit.  Take it from me, I believe his view that someone like me (politically) has no place at his table.  The only role I&#039;d have is to serve him dinner, take away his plates, clean them, do his laundry and if I am a good boy, I may be able to take a sip of water from his tap.  Wait, no I wouldn&#039;t.  I&#039;d have to drink out of the creek in the back, if I&#039;m lucky enough.  Ah, I forgot, I wouldn&#039;t be allowed to speak, unless spoken to, but even that would be restricted to an affirmative groan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steaksauce, in perspective of what Geezer says, I, too believe the segregationist is indeed sincere.  He is very sincere in what he presents to us all, in that he 100% believes everything he says.  I don&#8217;t doubt that one bit.  Take it from me, I believe his view that someone like me (politically) has no place at his table.  The only role I&#8217;d have is to serve him dinner, take away his plates, clean them, do his laundry and if I am a good boy, I may be able to take a sip of water from his tap.  Wait, no I wouldn&#8217;t.  I&#8217;d have to drink out of the creek in the back, if I&#8217;m lucky enough.  Ah, I forgot, I wouldn&#8217;t be allowed to speak, unless spoken to, but even that would be restricted to an affirmative groan.</p>
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		<title>By: pandora</title>
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		<dc:creator>pandora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Geezer.  David is a true believer, which makes his rhetoric extremely disturbing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Geezer.  David is a true believer, which makes his rhetoric extremely disturbing.</p>
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		<title>By: RSmitty</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/11/02/monday-open-thread-8/#comment-157863</link>
		<dc:creator>RSmitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enough of the political segregationist David.  In news more important than he will ever be:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Ao_z3idWmfgQaYevjyoPf3c5nYcB?slug=ti-hamelsmyers110209&amp;prov=yhoo&amp;type=lgns&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;It&#039;s time for the spouse-beater Myers to go&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enough of the political segregationist David.  In news more important than he will ever be:</p>
<p><a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Ao_z3idWmfgQaYevjyoPf3c5nYcB?slug=ti-hamelsmyers110209&amp;prov=yhoo&amp;type=lgns" rel="nofollow">It&#8217;s time for the spouse-beater Myers to go</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Geezer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geezer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do you find him insincere, A1? I&#039;m convinced he believes what he types. And yes, anyone who believes in Skydad as fervently as David does is, by definition, an authoritarian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you find him insincere, A1? I&#8217;m convinced he believes what he types. And yes, anyone who believes in Skydad as fervently as David does is, by definition, an authoritarian.</p>
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