Comments on: GOP Death Spiral? http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/10/20/gop-death-spiral-2/ Ground zero for all things political in Delaware Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:53:13 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: cassandra_m http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/10/20/gop-death-spiral-2/#comment-155426 cassandra_m Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:05:36 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=30148#comment-155426 Which doesn't have much to do with your largely wrong prognostications. Which doesn’t have much to do with your largely wrong prognostications.

]]> By: Republican David http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/10/20/gop-death-spiral-2/#comment-155402 Republican David Fri, 23 Oct 2009 05:47:12 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=30148#comment-155402 I would also point out that McCain soon afterward took a lead in the polls which he did not lose until the meltdown on Wall Street and his erratic suspension of his campaign. Even Sarah couldn't save him from that. I would also point out that McCain soon afterward took a lead in the polls which he did not lose until the meltdown on Wall Street and his erratic suspension of his campaign. Even Sarah couldn’t save him from that.

]]> By: cassandra_m http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/10/20/gop-death-spiral-2/#comment-155389 cassandra_m Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:19:18 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=30148#comment-155389 You had much to say re: predictions and a quick look starts with stuff like <a href="http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/08/29/sarah-palin-wont-help-mccain/#comment-54900" rel="nofollow">this</a> and more waxing rhapsodic about how it is all coming home for McCain. So no credit for hiding your "predictions" if that is what you did and no credit for the revisionist history. You had much to say re: predictions and a quick look starts with stuff like this and more waxing rhapsodic about how it is all coming home for McCain. So no credit for hiding your “predictions” if that is what you did and no credit for the revisionist history.

]]> By: Republican David http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/10/20/gop-death-spiral-2/#comment-155377 Republican David Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:27:25 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=30148#comment-155377 When you are an official of a party, you cannot outright predict that your Presidential candidate will lose in public, but I don't think this qualified as any of the predictions that you attributed to me. I hinted at a Democrat Tsunami that could take down several races including some I thought would be victorious on their own. Unfortunately my worse case scenario came about. http://www.delawarepolitics.net/markell-taking-an-interesting-approach/ Reading between the lines I was not predicting a victory for McCain, Lee, Copeland, Brady and was looking at the painful possibility of a Democrat Tsunami that I did not want to accept. It was far from the O'Donnell will win and McCain will win scenario. I did not even venture those as races to watch especially if Virginia and North Carolina did not go for McCain early. Was I right in those trends? I searched the archives the post predicting a McCain comeback belonged to my friend John Feroce. I think he was putting on a brave face as he used the language of needing a "comeback". I tried to be supportive but concluded my comment with.... <blockquote>If early on we see VA, NC go for Senator Obama. It is over for Senator McCain. There will be an electoral landslide. If VA is as quite close then it will be be an interesting night. If VA goes early for McCain then you will see most of the red states fall in line and maybe even PA. It will be a bad sign for Senator Obama. I will be watching VA, NC, NH, and IN for my first indications. If NH falls to McCain and the other 3 states go likewise, it will be a long night for Senator Obama.</blockquote> I just can not find the post or even the comment where "right up to the end I was predicting a McCain victory". You must have me mixed up with someone else. When you are an official of a party, you cannot outright predict that your Presidential candidate will lose in public, but I don’t think this qualified as any of the predictions that you attributed to me. I hinted at a Democrat Tsunami that could take down several races including some I thought would be victorious on their own. Unfortunately my worse case scenario came about. http://www.delawarepolitics.net/markell-taking-an-interesting-approach/

Reading between the lines I was not predicting a victory for McCain, Lee, Copeland, Brady and was looking at the painful possibility of a Democrat Tsunami that I did not want to accept. It was far from the O’Donnell will win and McCain will win scenario. I did not even venture those as races to watch especially if Virginia and North Carolina did not go for McCain early. Was I right in those trends?

I searched the archives the post predicting a McCain comeback belonged to my friend John Feroce. I think he was putting on a brave face as he used the language of needing a “comeback”. I tried to be supportive but concluded my comment with….

If early on we see VA, NC go for Senator Obama. It is over for Senator McCain. There will be an electoral landslide. If VA is as quite close then it will be be an interesting night. If VA goes early for McCain then you will see most of the red states fall in line and maybe even PA. It will be a bad sign for Senator Obama.

I will be watching VA, NC, NH, and IN for my first indications. If NH falls to McCain and the other 3 states go likewise, it will be a long night for Senator Obama.

I just can not find the post or even the comment where “right up to the end I was predicting a McCain victory”. You must have me mixed up with someone else.

]]> By: Jason330 http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/10/20/gop-death-spiral-2/#comment-155055 Jason330 Wed, 21 Oct 2009 03:32:24 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=30148#comment-155055 If O'Whackjob pulls 30% of the Protack voters and Castle gets 100% of Ting's plus 70% of Protack's (fair assumptions I'd say) then the foxy virgin can get up to 30% of the total primary vote. The question is, just how crazy were the Protack voters? I know some were other wise sane people who (knowing the nominee would lose) though Protack would take a real swing or two at Carper. Nevertheless, the vast majority of Protack voters were coo-coo. One other variable. If the virgin goes "full on wingnut berserker" then she can maybe pick up a few more percentage points for showing some tea party spirit. If O’Whackjob pulls 30% of the Protack voters and Castle gets 100% of Ting’s plus 70% of Protack’s (fair assumptions I’d say) then the foxy virgin can get up to 30% of the total primary vote.

The question is, just how crazy were the Protack voters? I know some were other wise sane people who (knowing the nominee would lose) though Protack would take a real swing or two at Carper. Nevertheless, the vast majority of Protack voters were coo-coo.

One other variable. If the virgin goes “full on wingnut berserker” then she can maybe pick up a few more percentage points for showing some tea party spirit.

]]> By: anon2 http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/10/20/gop-death-spiral-2/#comment-155054 anon2 Wed, 21 Oct 2009 03:07:27 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=30148#comment-155054 Twenty one percent sounds about right for the virgin. Let's hope the GOP keeps running right wing nut cases for higher office. At what point do the spankings become too painful to witness? Twenty one percent sounds about right for the virgin. Let’s hope the GOP keeps running right wing nut cases for higher office. At what point do the spankings become too painful to witness?

]]> By: anon http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/10/20/gop-death-spiral-2/#comment-155053 anon Wed, 21 Oct 2009 03:03:25 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=30148#comment-155053 No baptist minister from the southeast is winning an effing presidential election. No baptist minister from the southeast is winning an effing presidential election.

]]> By: nemski http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/10/20/gop-death-spiral-2/#comment-155047 nemski Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:16:45 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=30148#comment-155047 Since Protack double-downed on O'Donnell when he ran against her, I think O'Donnell topping at 21% is extremely luck. Now if Castle dies before then, O'Donnell hits 35%. Since Protack double-downed on O’Donnell when he ran against her, I think O’Donnell topping at 21% is extremely luck. Now if Castle dies before then, O’Donnell hits 35%.

]]> By: pandora http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/10/20/gop-death-spiral-2/#comment-155044 pandora Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:58:52 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=30148#comment-155044 Feeling generous tonight, UI? ;-) I'll go with O'Donnell getting a symbolic 21%. That said, if your prediction is correct than Castle might have a big problem since Christine's supporters tend to be fanatical and just might stay home once their goddess loses. Feeling generous tonight, UI? ;-) I’ll go with O’Donnell getting a symbolic 21%. That said, if your prediction is correct than Castle might have a big problem since Christine’s supporters tend to be fanatical and just might stay home once their goddess loses.

]]> By: Unstable Isotope http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/10/20/gop-death-spiral-2/#comment-155043 Unstable Isotope Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:54:52 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=30148#comment-155043 OK, here's a test of our prognosticating ability. Right here, right now, predict who will be the GOP nominee for the U.S. Senate seat. Castle, O'Donnell or someone else? What will be the vote total? Me, I'll go with Castle 70% O'Donnell 30% OK, here’s a test of our prognosticating ability. Right here, right now, predict who will be the GOP nominee for the U.S. Senate seat. Castle, O’Donnell or someone else? What will be the vote total?

Me, I’ll go with
Castle 70%
O’Donnell 30%

]]> By: cassandra_m http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/10/20/gop-death-spiral-2/#comment-155042 cassandra_m Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:40:23 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=30148#comment-155042 David A was predicting a McCain Palin win until the very end, so I don't think I'd pay much attention to that. Plus he was predicting O'Donnell would smoke Joe Biden since Biden would not debate her and the people would not stand for such. So if you have money on anything he is predicting -- liquidate your position. Part of what Scozzafava is facing is what Specter ran away from. I understand that John McCain is working hard at recruiting more moderate repubs to run so I think that at least he gets it. How much real influence he'll have is n open question. But it seems as though repubs need to sign up for the Fox Noise view of the world lock stock and barrel before the wingnut brigade will give them the time of day and that isn't going to much of a success story outside of the South, I think. David A was predicting a McCain Palin win until the very end, so I don’t think I’d pay much attention to that. Plus he was predicting O’Donnell would smoke Joe Biden since Biden would not debate her and the people would not stand for such. So if you have money on anything he is predicting — liquidate your position.

Part of what Scozzafava is facing is what Specter ran away from. I understand that John McCain is working hard at recruiting more moderate repubs to run so I think that at least he gets it. How much real influence he’ll have is n open question. But it seems as though repubs need to sign up for the Fox Noise view of the world lock stock and barrel before the wingnut brigade will give them the time of day and that isn’t going to much of a success story outside of the South, I think.

]]> By: Von Cracker http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/10/20/gop-death-spiral-2/#comment-155038 Von Cracker Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:18:59 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=30148#comment-155038 oh, and cracksmoker, HA! crack is not what I smoke. ...and it ain't poll either! :-P oh, and cracksmoker, HA! crack is not what I smoke.

…and it ain’t poll either! :-P

]]> By: Von Cracker http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/10/20/gop-death-spiral-2/#comment-155037 Von Cracker Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:17:16 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=30148#comment-155037 with child please, i was channeling Ocho Cinco (google it)...wrong again. <i>Claro!</i> with child please, i was channeling Ocho Cinco (google it)…wrong again. Claro!

]]> By: Republican David http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/10/20/gop-death-spiral-2/#comment-155036 Republican David Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:01:33 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=30148#comment-155036 We shall see. So far I have a 12 year winning streak. Clinton 1992 seemed likely, but it was too terrible to actually contemplate. I would love to see your prediction of the market bottoming between 6500 and 6700. The rise and the collapse of oil prices. The rise of Huckabee in February of 2007, the choice of Palin in August or September of 2007, or the rise of President Obama over Clinton in 2007 (even Kavips praised me on that one). I can not be sure of this because it is way too far out, but it is a better than 1 in 3 outcome in my judgment. If I gambled, I would put money on it. "Child please, I’ll take my prognostication track record against yours any day of the week….seriously." Von Crack (smok)er makes a code word slur. How clever. That is okay, I will just fire back by saying that your view of America can only be sustained by delusion which is the genesis of the smoker jab. We shall see. So far I have a 12 year winning streak. Clinton 1992 seemed likely, but it was too terrible to actually contemplate. I would love to see your prediction of the market bottoming between 6500 and 6700. The rise and the collapse of oil prices. The rise of Huckabee in February of 2007, the choice of Palin in August or September of 2007, or the rise of President Obama over Clinton in 2007 (even Kavips praised me on that one). I can not be sure of this because it is way too far out, but it is a better than 1 in 3 outcome in my judgment. If I gambled, I would put money on it.

“Child please, I’ll take my prognostication track record against yours any day of the week….seriously.” Von Crack (smok)er makes a code word slur. How clever. That is okay, I will just fire back by saying that your view of America can only be sustained by delusion which is the genesis of the smoker jab.

]]> By: Von Cracker http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/10/20/gop-death-spiral-2/#comment-155035 Von Cracker Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:58:33 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=30148#comment-155035 Never mind the corporate welfare and unconstitutional acts of the previous GOP administrations, especially the last one. Yes, banana republic....lol Never mind the corporate welfare and unconstitutional acts of the previous GOP administrations, especially the last one.

Yes, banana republic….lol

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