Comments on: Calling ‘Em Out http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/10/09/calling-em-out/ Ground zero for all things political in Delaware Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:14:32 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Unstable Isotope http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/10/09/calling-em-out/#comment-152744 Unstable Isotope Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:34:12 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=29526#comment-152744 People in Canada live longer than those in the U.S. But I don't understand why we're talking about Canada's system. There is no proposal being considered in Congress that sets up a system remotely like Canada's. That doesn't stop Republicans from telling lies about their system while ignoring the huge problems in our own system. Republicans like the status quo, we get it. I don't see why we need to have any discussion at all with Republicans any more. You want to keep things exactly as they are - U.S. #37 in health care outcomes, spending 16% (and rising) of our GDP to mostly give million dollar bonuses to health care CEOs. I understand perfectly. I don't get treatment in days and I have health insurance. In fact I made my doctor appointment for my physical months in advance. My father had to wait 6 weeks for his heart by-pass surgery. Some people never get any treatment at all, because they don't have any health insurance. I'm sure RwR missed all those people who camped out overnight to get healthcare in Houston, because none are so blind as those who will not see. People in Canada live longer than those in the U.S. But I don’t understand why we’re talking about Canada’s system. There is no proposal being considered in Congress that sets up a system remotely like Canada’s. That doesn’t stop Republicans from telling lies about their system while ignoring the huge problems in our own system. Republicans like the status quo, we get it. I don’t see why we need to have any discussion at all with Republicans any more. You want to keep things exactly as they are – U.S. #37 in health care outcomes, spending 16% (and rising) of our GDP to mostly give million dollar bonuses to health care CEOs. I understand perfectly.

I don’t get treatment in days and I have health insurance. In fact I made my doctor appointment for my physical months in advance. My father had to wait 6 weeks for his heart by-pass surgery. Some people never get any treatment at all, because they don’t have any health insurance. I’m sure RwR missed all those people who camped out overnight to get healthcare in Houston, because none are so blind as those who will not see.

]]> By: cassandra m http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/10/09/calling-em-out/#comment-152743 cassandra m Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:55:43 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=29526#comment-152743 Well that would be a lie too, but you can't be here two seconds without it. Well that would be a lie too, but you can’t be here two seconds without it.

]]> By: Rhymes With Right http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/10/09/calling-em-out/#comment-152740 Rhymes With Right Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:30:19 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=29526#comment-152740 I'll agree -- Obama isn't going to pull the plug on anyone's grandma. Under the plans supported by Obama and the Democrats, grandma won't get anywhere near a machine with a plug to pull. And the rest of us will have to wait for months for treatment that we currently get in days -- just like the model health care systems in Canada and the UK. I’ll agree — Obama isn’t going to pull the plug on anyone’s grandma.

Under the plans supported by Obama and the Democrats, grandma won’t get anywhere near a machine with a plug to pull.

And the rest of us will have to wait for months for treatment that we currently get in days — just like the model health care systems in Canada and the UK.

]]> By: cassandra m http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/10/09/calling-em-out/#comment-152738 cassandra m Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:05:10 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=29526#comment-152738 Mike is right about that -- plus BushCo openly called out the NYT for reporting on some of its surveillance efforts. Even tho the NYT waited months after it learned of this lawlessness to report on it. I think that if some noted Dem the world that Bush wanted to pull the plug on Grandma there would have been instantaneous fact-checking and pushback by a media who seems to think that checking on Dems shows objectivity. But I imagine that it is no surprise to know that you are only concerned about the calling out -- not whether the media is doing its job. Like telling us that Obama pulling the plug on your Grandma is a Lie. Mike is right about that — plus BushCo openly called out the NYT for reporting on some of its surveillance efforts. Even tho the NYT waited months after it learned of this lawlessness to report on it. I think that if some noted Dem the world that Bush wanted to pull the plug on Grandma there would have been instantaneous fact-checking and pushback by a media who seems to think that checking on Dems shows objectivity.

But I imagine that it is no surprise to know that you are only concerned about the calling out — not whether the media is doing its job. Like telling us that Obama pulling the plug on your Grandma is a Lie.

]]> By: pandora http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/10/09/calling-em-out/#comment-152737 pandora Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:01:52 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=29526#comment-152737 And... when those of us did call Bush out we were labeled un-American and told we didn't support the troops. (Granted, the left is doing that now, but more in the name of tit for tat - still, I think it should stop. The hypocrisy on the right, it runs deep.) And… when those of us did call Bush out we were labeled un-American and told we didn’t support the troops. (Granted, the left is doing that now, but more in the name of tit for tat – still, I think it should stop. The hypocrisy on the right, it runs deep.)

]]> By: Mike Matthews http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/10/09/calling-em-out/#comment-152734 Mike Matthews Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:19:47 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=29526#comment-152734 RwR, The problem is the "left-wing MSM" DIDN'T call out the Bush Administration when it mattered. They only did it after Bush and his hoodlums made the "liberal MSM" look like fools due to their lies. They only did it once we were already dick-deep into Iraq. They only did it, quite frankly, when it really didn't matter. RwR,

The problem is the “left-wing MSM” DIDN’T call out the Bush Administration when it mattered. They only did it after Bush and his hoodlums made the “liberal MSM” look like fools due to their lies. They only did it once we were already dick-deep into Iraq. They only did it, quite frankly, when it really didn’t matter.

]]> By: Rhymes With Right http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/10/09/calling-em-out/#comment-152733 Rhymes With Right Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:04:17 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=29526#comment-152733 What would you have said if this were the Bush Administration calling out MSNBC, CNN, and the rest of the left-of-center media? How many times would you have used the phrases "freedom of speech", "freedom of the press", "right-wing censors", and "impeach them now"? What would you have said if this were the Bush Administration calling out MSNBC, CNN, and the rest of the left-of-center media?

How many times would you have used the phrases “freedom of speech”, “freedom of the press”, “right-wing censors”, and “impeach them now”?

]]> By: arthur http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/10/09/calling-em-out/#comment-152577 arthur Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:23:56 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=29526#comment-152577 The white house has enough to do by continually making statements of "this is actually what VP Biden meant to say." The white house has enough to do by continually making statements of “this is actually what VP Biden meant to say.”

]]> By: PBaumbach http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/10/09/calling-em-out/#comment-152514 PBaumbach Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:12:50 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=29526#comment-152514 At last night's Town Hall with Markell, state Senator Dave Sokola did a GREAT job refuting the nonsense that a lady tried to pass on as facts. He said something like 'you have your right to your own opinions, but not to your own facts.' At which time he refuted the crap that she tried to pass on as facts. Earlier he laid bare the claim by an audience member that poor Valero CEO had done such a good job that the crap coming out of the chimneys of the refinery was a clean as the air in the school auditorium. Sokola noted that he gets notices twice a week from DNREC of violations/alerts from the Valero refinery. (Kowalko did a similar job of smacking down the crap that the audience member was spewing.) It's well past time for truth-squads. At last night’s Town Hall with Markell, state Senator Dave Sokola did a GREAT job refuting the nonsense that a lady tried to pass on as facts.

He said something like ‘you have your right to your own opinions, but not to your own facts.’ At which time he refuted the crap that she tried to pass on as facts.

Earlier he laid bare the claim by an audience member that poor Valero CEO had done such a good job that the crap coming out of the chimneys of the refinery was a clean as the air in the school auditorium. Sokola noted that he gets notices twice a week from DNREC of violations/alerts from the Valero refinery. (Kowalko did a similar job of smacking down the crap that the audience member was spewing.)

It’s well past time for truth-squads.

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