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		<title>By: A. price</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/09/18/overreacting-to-acorn/#comment-150107</link>
		<dc:creator>A. price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>those people are called insurance executives and they are &quot;butthurting&quot; us all. everyone they deny someone care,  a paying customer.....  they make money... even if that person dies.   dont TELL me that makes this country great.... America.  where any kid can grow up to decide who lives and dies based on a bottom line.  you guys put up a straw man of care rationing? it is happening already and you are all so blinded by your Glenns and Rushes who make you hate everything obama that you would rather Americans continue to suffer and die just so the &quot;bad man&quot; cant do, whatever you&#039;re afraid he is gonna do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>those people are called insurance executives and they are &#8220;butthurting&#8221; us all. everyone they deny someone care,  a paying customer&#8230;..  they make money&#8230; even if that person dies.   dont TELL me that makes this country great&#8230;. America.  where any kid can grow up to decide who lives and dies based on a bottom line.  you guys put up a straw man of care rationing? it is happening already and you are all so blinded by your Glenns and Rushes who make you hate everything obama that you would rather Americans continue to suffer and die just so the &#8220;bad man&#8221; cant do, whatever you&#8217;re afraid he is gonna do.</p>
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		<title>By: Geezer</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/09/18/overreacting-to-acorn/#comment-150106</link>
		<dc:creator>Geezer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Not everyone believes that increasing the scope, size and power of government = “improving America.” 

The mystery is why some people think that, regardless of the situation, either increasing or decreasing the size of government is automatically good OR bad. In other words, Mike, your position -- that more government is NEVER the answer -- is no more responsible than that of someone who thinks increasing goverment is ALWAYS the answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Not everyone believes that increasing the scope, size and power of government = “improving America.” </p>
<p>The mystery is why some people think that, regardless of the situation, either increasing or decreasing the size of government is automatically good OR bad. In other words, Mike, your position &#8212; that more government is NEVER the answer &#8212; is no more responsible than that of someone who thinks increasing goverment is ALWAYS the answer.</p>
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		<title>By: mike w.</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/09/18/overreacting-to-acorn/#comment-150105</link>
		<dc:creator>mike w.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A. Price - Not everyone believes that increasing the scope, size and power of government = &quot;improving America.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A. Price &#8211; Not everyone believes that increasing the scope, size and power of government = &#8220;improving America.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: anonone</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/09/18/overreacting-to-acorn/#comment-150102</link>
		<dc:creator>anonone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In writing &quot;Next, I bet you’ll be telling us why Habitat For Humanity is exactly like Haliburton,&quot; I was trying to show the ridiculousness of Mike M. comparing &quot;ACORN and the right-wing military-industrial fascists.&quot;

That&#039;s all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In writing &#8220;Next, I bet you’ll be telling us why Habitat For Humanity is exactly like Haliburton,&#8221; I was trying to show the ridiculousness of Mike M. comparing &#8220;ACORN and the right-wing military-industrial fascists.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s all.</p>
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		<title>By: A. price</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/09/18/overreacting-to-acorn/#comment-150101</link>
		<dc:creator>A. price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when i say selfish i am talking about the people who actually say &quot;I DONT WANT MY TAXES PAYING FOR SOMEONE ELSES HEATH CARE!!!!&quot;  that, to me is selfish.  they would rather their neighbor get laid off, be dropped by their evil insurance company, get sick, go bankrupt and DIE, than pay a little extra.... MAYBE  and ensure the nation is healthy and productive..    you conserva-istas always shout about how wonderful america is and how our nation is the best in the world, but rarely do you ever want to work to improve it more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when i say selfish i am talking about the people who actually say &#8220;I DONT WANT MY TAXES PAYING FOR SOMEONE ELSES HEATH CARE!!!!&#8221;  that, to me is selfish.  they would rather their neighbor get laid off, be dropped by their evil insurance company, get sick, go bankrupt and DIE, than pay a little extra&#8230;. MAYBE  and ensure the nation is healthy and productive..    you conserva-istas always shout about how wonderful america is and how our nation is the best in the world, but rarely do you ever want to work to improve it more.</p>
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		<title>By: cassandra_m</title>
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		<dc:creator>cassandra_m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And here is Mis not paying attention AGAIN:
&lt;i&gt;The Halliburton analogy was a stretch, but they’re not exactly a small grassroots organization&lt;/i&gt;

The Halliburton comparison was NOT to compare types of organizations -- but a comparison of the level of wrongdoing and of the amounts of money involved .  Halliburton has been misusing way more Fed funds than ACORN would ever get its hands on and this Congress (and prior Congress&#039;) did not see fit to condemn them, to recind their contracts, to preclude them from getting more contracts (or even to just give them additional oversight), or to get their high dudgeon on lickty split.  Even though the Halliburton grievances represent multiple orders of magnitude anything that ACORN has been accused of as well as multiple known risks to soldiers.

But apparently the ACORN lesson is 1)  they didn&#039;t go big enough and 2) their constituencies were far too black and far too brown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here is Mis not paying attention AGAIN:<br />
<i>The Halliburton analogy was a stretch, but they’re not exactly a small grassroots organization</i></p>
<p>The Halliburton comparison was NOT to compare types of organizations &#8212; but a comparison of the level of wrongdoing and of the amounts of money involved .  Halliburton has been misusing way more Fed funds than ACORN would ever get its hands on and this Congress (and prior Congress&#8217;) did not see fit to condemn them, to recind their contracts, to preclude them from getting more contracts (or even to just give them additional oversight), or to get their high dudgeon on lickty split.  Even though the Halliburton grievances represent multiple orders of magnitude anything that ACORN has been accused of as well as multiple known risks to soldiers.</p>
<p>But apparently the ACORN lesson is 1)  they didn&#8217;t go big enough and 2) their constituencies were far too black and far too brown.</p>
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		<title>By: rhubard</title>
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		<dc:creator>rhubard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;butthurt&quot;?

Please take your homosexual fears somewhere else. Is this why you like the guns? To protect your back?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;butthurt&#8221;?</p>
<p>Please take your homosexual fears somewhere else. Is this why you like the guns? To protect your back?</p>
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		<title>By: mike w.</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/09/18/overreacting-to-acorn/#comment-150097</link>
		<dc:creator>mike w.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;if you all would stop being so selfish hateful, you would see that this is bigger than your political party. your nation is in crisis.&lt;/i&gt;

So people who fundamentally disagree with Obama&#039;s policies and his approach to governing should just &quot;stop being so selfish,&quot; shut the hell up and just roll over and let he and the liberals in Congress do whatever they want?

Not a chance in hell. 

As far as &quot;A nation in crisis&quot;, have you considered that maybe Obama&#039;s policies are part of the PROBLEM not the solution.  Oh, and I love how you conveniently ignore that many of Obama&#039;s policies are no different than Bush.  As much as I dislike Obama there were some things I was hopeful he&#039;d change from the Bush years and he has not done so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>if you all would stop being so selfish hateful, you would see that this is bigger than your political party. your nation is in crisis.</i></p>
<p>So people who fundamentally disagree with Obama&#8217;s policies and his approach to governing should just &#8220;stop being so selfish,&#8221; shut the hell up and just roll over and let he and the liberals in Congress do whatever they want?</p>
<p>Not a chance in hell. </p>
<p>As far as &#8220;A nation in crisis&#8221;, have you considered that maybe Obama&#8217;s policies are part of the PROBLEM not the solution.  Oh, and I love how you conveniently ignore that many of Obama&#8217;s policies are no different than Bush.  As much as I dislike Obama there were some things I was hopeful he&#8217;d change from the Bush years and he has not done so.</p>
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		<title>By: A. price</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/09/18/overreacting-to-acorn/#comment-150096</link>
		<dc:creator>A. price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and my point is proven.   speak truth to them and they project.    
to be honest mike, i think if al gore had won, or even kerry for that matter, Obama would never have even run.  Bush and your R-tards (like that) made the situation SO BAD, people were finally willing to take the big step needed.   dont pretend for an INSTANT, because I, and every level headed person on earth has photographic proof...  that the right wing is NOT about fear.   Obama and the left have been called nazis, socialists (2 mutually exclusive groups). Obama has been called a mulsim (in a bad way) pictures of african witch doctors and monkeys in doctor outfits..... it is all about hate and racism and if you all would stop being so selfish hateful, you would see that this is bigger than your political party.  your nation is in crisis.  But, people who dont look or think like you are the ones getting hurt so fuck em right? 

again, you lost this time.... take a big ol bite out of your shit sandwich</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and my point is proven.   speak truth to them and they project.<br />
to be honest mike, i think if al gore had won, or even kerry for that matter, Obama would never have even run.  Bush and your R-tards (like that) made the situation SO BAD, people were finally willing to take the big step needed.   dont pretend for an INSTANT, because I, and every level headed person on earth has photographic proof&#8230;  that the right wing is NOT about fear.   Obama and the left have been called nazis, socialists (2 mutually exclusive groups). Obama has been called a mulsim (in a bad way) pictures of african witch doctors and monkeys in doctor outfits&#8230;.. it is all about hate and racism and if you all would stop being so selfish hateful, you would see that this is bigger than your political party.  your nation is in crisis.  But, people who dont look or think like you are the ones getting hurt so fuck em right? </p>
<p>again, you lost this time&#8230;. take a big ol bite out of your shit sandwich</p>
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		<title>By: mike w.</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/09/18/overreacting-to-acorn/#comment-150093</link>
		<dc:creator>mike w.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW!  Some big time crazy there A. Price.

STILL butthurt over Gore losing huh?  That&#039;s just sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW!  Some big time crazy there A. Price.</p>
<p>STILL butthurt over Gore losing huh?  That&#8217;s just sad.</p>
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		<title>By: A. price</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/09/18/overreacting-to-acorn/#comment-150091</link>
		<dc:creator>A. price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why are the sane ones here still arguing? the Extremists on the right wing will NEVER concede that ACORN is NOT a socialist nazi muslim pro gay cult bent on making Obama a worshiped god and forcing their kids to have interracial gay sex.    it is what they believe at their core.  Surly as we believe that in America, people should have access to care if they get sick, THESE people believe the same.... only added is ...&quot;if they deserve it&quot;.
The hateful people who stand up and say &quot;i work hard so my family can have health care.. other people should work hard too&quot;   

that sums it up. they DONT love their neighbor as their alleged religious teaching might suggest they should.   They are afraid of different, and in a very primal reaction hate it.  They hate the different looking president, some will never admit WHY, but they hate him.  They hatefully call him a &quot;muslim&quot; (as if it is a bad thing) and &quot;socialist&quot; as if it were a bad thing...... Ive said it before and i&#039;ll say it again    
are you listening right wing extremists?   i WISH obama was a socialist!

They will say whatever they can think of to convince themselves and their ilk that it isnt really happening... He isnt the REAL president, no one really MEANT to vote for him,  some underfunded agency who 99% of the time helps the homeless find a roof perpetrated election fraud on a national scale and snuck him in so he could advance a pro mulsim, pro hitler, pro gay agenda....
its over....  you LOST the right wing had their chance to run things.... by stealing an election no less, they even WON a few elections..... but it is over now. they have demonstrated they are totally incapable of running the country unless it is only white people in the south who love jesus and hate everyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why are the sane ones here still arguing? the Extremists on the right wing will NEVER concede that ACORN is NOT a socialist nazi muslim pro gay cult bent on making Obama a worshiped god and forcing their kids to have interracial gay sex.    it is what they believe at their core.  Surly as we believe that in America, people should have access to care if they get sick, THESE people believe the same&#8230;. only added is &#8230;&#8221;if they deserve it&#8221;.<br />
The hateful people who stand up and say &#8220;i work hard so my family can have health care.. other people should work hard too&#8221;   </p>
<p>that sums it up. they DONT love their neighbor as their alleged religious teaching might suggest they should.   They are afraid of different, and in a very primal reaction hate it.  They hate the different looking president, some will never admit WHY, but they hate him.  They hatefully call him a &#8220;muslim&#8221; (as if it is a bad thing) and &#8220;socialist&#8221; as if it were a bad thing&#8230;&#8230; Ive said it before and i&#8217;ll say it again<br />
are you listening right wing extremists?   i WISH obama was a socialist!</p>
<p>They will say whatever they can think of to convince themselves and their ilk that it isnt really happening&#8230; He isnt the REAL president, no one really MEANT to vote for him,  some underfunded agency who 99% of the time helps the homeless find a roof perpetrated election fraud on a national scale and snuck him in so he could advance a pro mulsim, pro hitler, pro gay agenda&#8230;.<br />
its over&#8230;.  you LOST the right wing had their chance to run things&#8230;. by stealing an election no less, they even WON a few elections&#8230;.. but it is over now. they have demonstrated they are totally incapable of running the country unless it is only white people in the south who love jesus and hate everyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: Progressive Mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Progressive Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Comment by mike w. on 21 September 2009 at 9:26 am:

“I’m waiting for an adult discussion”

Considering you just attacked RWR in a comment where you complained about him doing it I highly doubt you’re capable of adult discussion.&quot;


Gosh, Mike, I am sorry.  I called RWR a &quot;man&quot; and a &quot;Republican&quot;. And, possibly, an &quot;adult.&quot;  Those were my attacks.

Perhaps he&#039;s a Democratic teenaged girl, and he felt attacked. My bad, but I was judging from his/her comments.

Of course, it doesn&#039;t matter, because he/she doesn&#039;t take me seriously, so he/she doesn&#039;t particularly care.  

But you knew all that -- you were just trying to get your shot in.  Pun intended, since I read the gun thread.

Can I call you a man and a Republican, or is that too much insulting for you?  ... insults abound here in this post..... whew!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Comment by mike w. on 21 September 2009 at 9:26 am:</p>
<p>“I’m waiting for an adult discussion”</p>
<p>Considering you just attacked RWR in a comment where you complained about him doing it I highly doubt you’re capable of adult discussion.&#8221;</p>
<p>Gosh, Mike, I am sorry.  I called RWR a &#8220;man&#8221; and a &#8220;Republican&#8221;. And, possibly, an &#8220;adult.&#8221;  Those were my attacks.</p>
<p>Perhaps he&#8217;s a Democratic teenaged girl, and he felt attacked. My bad, but I was judging from his/her comments.</p>
<p>Of course, it doesn&#8217;t matter, because he/she doesn&#8217;t take me seriously, so he/she doesn&#8217;t particularly care.  </p>
<p>But you knew all that &#8212; you were just trying to get your shot in.  Pun intended, since I read the gun thread.</p>
<p>Can I call you a man and a Republican, or is that too much insulting for you?  &#8230; insults abound here in this post&#8230;.. whew!</p>
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		<title>By: Miscreant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miscreant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hey Mike, do a few bad teachers make ALL teachers and their schools bad? Do you close down a hospital because one of the nurses was caught selling drugs?&quot;

When there numerous bad/dealing teachers/nurses at the same school/hospital, it may be worthy of a good look.


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5inR1M_vhtS2lkl_cEpH5gTRVtPXwD9AQQHT03


The Halliburton analogy was a stretch, but they&#039;re not exactly a small grassroots organization:

&quot;Activist group ACORN started in 1970 to help poor people in Arkansas and by decade&#039;s end went national, expanding into a multimillion-dollar conglomerate with a mission so far-flung that schools now bear its name, two radio stations are affiliates and a man its political arm endorsed is the president.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hey Mike, do a few bad teachers make ALL teachers and their schools bad? Do you close down a hospital because one of the nurses was caught selling drugs?&#8221;</p>
<p>When there numerous bad/dealing teachers/nurses at the same school/hospital, it may be worthy of a good look.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5inR1M_vhtS2lkl_cEpH5gTRVtPXwD9AQQHT03" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5inR1M_vhtS2lkl_cEpH5gTRVtPXwD9AQQHT03</a></p>
<p>The Halliburton analogy was a stretch, but they&#8217;re not exactly a small grassroots organization:</p>
<p>&#8220;Activist group ACORN started in 1970 to help poor people in Arkansas and by decade&#8217;s end went national, expanding into a multimillion-dollar conglomerate with a mission so far-flung that schools now bear its name, two radio stations are affiliates and a man its political arm endorsed is the president.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: mike w.</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike w.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just using Anonone&#039;s logic against him. (though I hesitate to call anything A1 writes here &quot;logic.&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just using Anonone&#8217;s logic against him. (though I hesitate to call anything A1 writes here &#8220;logic.&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: rhubard</title>
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		<dc:creator>rhubard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t hijack it? EVERY thread Mike W. joins turns into a gun thread.</description>
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