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		<title>By: John Young</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/09/13/around-the-horn-sunday-3/#comment-149322</link>
		<dc:creator>John Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 03:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to John Kowalko to attending our Board meeting tonight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to John Kowalko to attending our Board meeting tonight.</p>
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		<title>By: Art Downs</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/09/13/around-the-horn-sunday-3/#comment-149100</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Downs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suppose someone had researched the record of Mr. Robinson&#039;s &#039;clients&#039;.  How many were thugs with long records who beat the rap in cases where they were as &#039;innocent as OJ&#039;? 

He was simply doing his job in these cases.  Suppose he was called on to defend the recent cop killer and got the charge reduced and allowed him to &#039;duck the needle&#039;?  Would this be an issue in a future campaign?  Nice as the guy is, a public defender might bring a lot of baggage to a campaign that was not a hurry-up affair.

Yelling &#039;lobbyist&#039; might appeal to the NIMBY crowd but it was obviously not a winning issue.

Many of the NIMBY types want to stop all development once they move into one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suppose someone had researched the record of Mr. Robinson&#8217;s &#8216;clients&#8217;.  How many were thugs with long records who beat the rap in cases where they were as &#8216;innocent as OJ&#8217;? </p>
<p>He was simply doing his job in these cases.  Suppose he was called on to defend the recent cop killer and got the charge reduced and allowed him to &#8216;duck the needle&#8217;?  Would this be an issue in a future campaign?  Nice as the guy is, a public defender might bring a lot of baggage to a campaign that was not a hurry-up affair.</p>
<p>Yelling &#8216;lobbyist&#8217; might appeal to the NIMBY crowd but it was obviously not a winning issue.</p>
<p>Many of the NIMBY types want to stop all development once they move into one.</p>
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		<title>By: Republican David</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/09/13/around-the-horn-sunday-3/#comment-149063</link>
		<dc:creator>Republican David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What evidence do you have that I would pitch a fit if Robinson were a lobbyist?  That is an interesting assumption.  The question I would have is do I agree with the person&#039;s positions.  A lobbyist for People for the American Way or the National Abortion and Reproductive Right Action League would get my ire not because they were a lobbyist, but because they were on the wrong side of the cultural divide.  Deluca (wasn&#039;t a supporter) was a big union guy, Caulk (who I backed),  headed the Farm Bureau, Stone (I supported a primary opponent in the second race)was part of the realtors&#039; legislative committe.  None of those caused me to pitch a fit.

As for El, he is being disingenious.  Anyone who spends time in legislative hall knows that I am right.  I know several lobbyists off line and on average they are more informed about a varity of issues than the average legislator.  They tend to be part friendly policy wonk and part salesperson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What evidence do you have that I would pitch a fit if Robinson were a lobbyist?  That is an interesting assumption.  The question I would have is do I agree with the person&#8217;s positions.  A lobbyist for People for the American Way or the National Abortion and Reproductive Right Action League would get my ire not because they were a lobbyist, but because they were on the wrong side of the cultural divide.  Deluca (wasn&#8217;t a supporter) was a big union guy, Caulk (who I backed),  headed the Farm Bureau, Stone (I supported a primary opponent in the second race)was part of the realtors&#8217; legislative committe.  None of those caused me to pitch a fit.</p>
<p>As for El, he is being disingenious.  Anyone who spends time in legislative hall knows that I am right.  I know several lobbyists off line and on average they are more informed about a varity of issues than the average legislator.  They tend to be part friendly policy wonk and part salesperson.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Shields</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Robinson was a lobbyist David would be pitchin&#039; a fit.

Someone who is paid to have an opinion has the right to run for office, but the people have the right to discern whether or not her opinions are her own. 

Unfortunately there was little choice in this race. I wish a Libertarian has stepped up. Might have been a game changer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Robinson was a lobbyist David would be pitchin&#8217; a fit.</p>
<p>Someone who is paid to have an opinion has the right to run for office, but the people have the right to discern whether or not her opinions are her own. </p>
<p>Unfortunately there was little choice in this race. I wish a Libertarian has stepped up. Might have been a game changer.</p>
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		<title>By: El Somnambulo</title>
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		<dc:creator>El Somnambulo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 23:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Describing lobbyists as the &#039;most informed people&#039; is laughable. They are &#039;most informed&#039; on the issues for which they are lobbying. Well, not the issues, but the talking points for the people shelling out the big bucks.  For which, in most cases, they are being paid handsomely by some special interest seeking advantage.

Similarly laughable is Rethug David&#039;s description of a lobbyist: &quot;A lobbyist is just someone who helps people exercise their fundamental constitutional right to seek redress of their grievances.&quot;

That might apply to John Flaherty, but virtually every other lobbyist is a paid hired gun for some special interest looking to gain advantage from the General Assembly, usually at the expense of people who are getting screwed b/c they don&#039;t have the $$&#039;s to have their grievances heard. 

Really, David, it&#039;s time to toss away those high school texts from the 1950&#039;s, and take a look at what happens in real life right here in Dover. Exxon-Mobil (if indeed they can be called &#039;people&#039;) will always have their &#039;grievances&#039; heard. The people living downstream from Exxon-Mobil? That&#039;s another question entirely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Describing lobbyists as the &#8216;most informed people&#8217; is laughable. They are &#8216;most informed&#8217; on the issues for which they are lobbying. Well, not the issues, but the talking points for the people shelling out the big bucks.  For which, in most cases, they are being paid handsomely by some special interest seeking advantage.</p>
<p>Similarly laughable is Rethug David&#8217;s description of a lobbyist: &#8220;A lobbyist is just someone who helps people exercise their fundamental constitutional right to seek redress of their grievances.&#8221;</p>
<p>That might apply to John Flaherty, but virtually every other lobbyist is a paid hired gun for some special interest looking to gain advantage from the General Assembly, usually at the expense of people who are getting screwed b/c they don&#8217;t have the $$&#8217;s to have their grievances heard. </p>
<p>Really, David, it&#8217;s time to toss away those high school texts from the 1950&#8217;s, and take a look at what happens in real life right here in Dover. Exxon-Mobil (if indeed they can be called &#8216;people&#8217;) will always have their &#8216;grievances&#8217; heard. The people living downstream from Exxon-Mobil? That&#8217;s another question entirely.</p>
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		<title>By: Republican David</title>
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		<dc:creator>Republican David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 23:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no problem with a lobbyist running and can&#039;t see why anyone would.  A lobbyist is just someone who helps people exercise their fundamental constitutional right to seek redress of their grievances. 

They are not heinous criminals who can or should be banned from seeking the votes of their citizens.  The idea that the most informed people should be banned from serving is mind boggling.  

Every one should be able to stand for office.  The people have the right to select them or not.  Depriving the people of their right to choose is anti-republican form of government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no problem with a lobbyist running and can&#8217;t see why anyone would.  A lobbyist is just someone who helps people exercise their fundamental constitutional right to seek redress of their grievances. </p>
<p>They are not heinous criminals who can or should be banned from seeking the votes of their citizens.  The idea that the most informed people should be banned from serving is mind boggling.  </p>
<p>Every one should be able to stand for office.  The people have the right to select them or not.  Depriving the people of their right to choose is anti-republican form of government.</p>
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		<title>By: El Somnambulo</title>
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		<dc:creator>El Somnambulo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 23:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Generally, it&#039;s the other way around. A past his/her prime legislator or a defeated good ol&#039; boy moves from legislator to lobbyist. The lure of Leg Hall is a powerful opiate for those who never got over losing that election for VP of their HS Junior class. To a large degree, the General Assembly consists of people reliving their high school experiences who hope to do better this time. Maybe this time they&#039;ll even be lucky enough to get laid by some comely and desperate lobbyist. Or at least get a $600 contribution out of them.

Re the Special, what do you expect from that portion of Sussex County? A lobbyist representing the entrenched interests fits the district profile to a T. Robinson ran a good race. If he moves somewhere where people use their brains to think, he might have a future in politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Generally, it&#8217;s the other way around. A past his/her prime legislator or a defeated good ol&#8217; boy moves from legislator to lobbyist. The lure of Leg Hall is a powerful opiate for those who never got over losing that election for VP of their HS Junior class. To a large degree, the General Assembly consists of people reliving their high school experiences who hope to do better this time. Maybe this time they&#8217;ll even be lucky enough to get laid by some comely and desperate lobbyist. Or at least get a $600 contribution out of them.</p>
<p>Re the Special, what do you expect from that portion of Sussex County? A lobbyist representing the entrenched interests fits the district profile to a T. Robinson ran a good race. If he moves somewhere where people use their brains to think, he might have a future in politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Republican David</title>
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		<dc:creator>Republican David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 23:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.delawarepolitics.net/doubting-robert/ You all missed a big local write up by Maria.  Great to have you back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.delawarepolitics.net/doubting-robert/" rel="nofollow">http://www.delawarepolitics.net/doubting-robert/</a> You all missed a big local write up by Maria.  Great to have you back.</p>
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		<title>By: John Manifold</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Manifold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 18:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I share redwaterlily&#039;s dislike of having registered lobbyists seamlessly sliding into the General Assembly, but the GA cannot enact legislation to prohibit lobbyists from candidacy.  The qualifications for election could only be changed by an amendment to the Delaware Constitution. http://delcode.delaware.gov/constitution/constitution-03.shtml#P204_26252

Legalities aside, I like a Republic where a person can lobby the General Assembly, and if frustrated by legislative inaction or bad action, can run against his or her legislator later that year.  Eliminating that possibility would likely not be popular.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I share redwaterlily&#8217;s dislike of having registered lobbyists seamlessly sliding into the General Assembly, but the GA cannot enact legislation to prohibit lobbyists from candidacy.  The qualifications for election could only be changed by an amendment to the Delaware Constitution. <a href="http://delcode.delaware.gov/constitution/constitution-03.shtml#P204_26252" rel="nofollow">http://delcode.delaware.gov/constitution/constitution-03.shtml#P204_26252</a></p>
<p>Legalities aside, I like a Republic where a person can lobby the General Assembly, and if frustrated by legislative inaction or bad action, can run against his or her legislator later that year.  Eliminating that possibility would likely not be popular.</p>
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