Comments on: Read All About It In the Sunday Papers-Aug. 23 Edition http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/08/23/read-all-about-it-in-the-sunday-papers-aug-23-edition/ Ground zero for all things political in Delaware Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:30:01 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: liberalgeek http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/08/23/read-all-about-it-in-the-sunday-papers-aug-23-edition/#comment-144291 liberalgeek Mon, 24 Aug 2009 02:14:12 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=27333#comment-144291 Actually, they are all related. The cows eat the corn. They get sick because they are supposed to be eating grass. The farmer gives them antibiotics to fix the infection. We eat the hamburger. Yum. Actually, they are all related. The cows eat the corn. They get sick because they are supposed to be eating grass. The farmer gives them antibiotics to fix the infection. We eat the hamburger. Yum.

]]> By: Geezer http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/08/23/read-all-about-it-in-the-sunday-papers-aug-23-edition/#comment-144290 Geezer Mon, 24 Aug 2009 02:09:19 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=27333#comment-144290 "We should be more concerned with the antibiotics in our beef than sugar from corn." Probably true, A2, but it doesn't mean we shouldn't be concerned about both. Mike: Don't know if you've read Michael Pollan; that's where Maher is getting his info, and good for him for bringing it to a wider audience. Cass: Ditto dat. “We should be more concerned with the antibiotics in our beef than sugar from corn.”

Probably true, A2, but it doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be concerned about both.

Mike: Don’t know if you’ve read Michael Pollan; that’s where Maher is getting his info, and good for him for bringing it to a wider audience.

Cass: Ditto dat.

]]> By: Art Downs http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/08/23/read-all-about-it-in-the-sunday-papers-aug-23-edition/#comment-144288 Art Downs Mon, 24 Aug 2009 01:45:30 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=27333#comment-144288 My use of the term is inspired by Voltaire's clever and oblique slur on Frederick the Great in Candide when he implied that he was King of the Buggers. The term is much used by the Brits and is in a jocular and even self deprecating form, often in a pseudo-formal manner such as embuggered. Words can be the source of fun. Never forget Faulkner's blast at Hemingway... My use of the term is inspired by Voltaire’s clever and oblique slur on Frederick the Great in Candide when he implied that he was King of the Buggers.

The term is much used by the Brits and is in a jocular and even self deprecating form, often in a pseudo-formal manner such as embuggered.

Words can be the source of fun.

Never forget Faulkner’s blast at Hemingway…

]]> By: cassandra_m http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/08/23/read-all-about-it-in-the-sunday-papers-aug-23-edition/#comment-144286 cassandra_m Mon, 24 Aug 2009 01:24:21 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=27333#comment-144286 Because Art says it with such authoritative, self-loathing knowledge -- and that is just TMI. Because Art says it with such authoritative, self-loathing knowledge — and that is just TMI.

]]> By: nemski http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/08/23/read-all-about-it-in-the-sunday-papers-aug-23-edition/#comment-144285 nemski Mon, 24 Aug 2009 01:14:57 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=27333#comment-144285 Why do I always wince when Art says <i>buggery</i>? Why do I always wince when Art says buggery?

]]> By: Art Downs http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/08/23/read-all-about-it-in-the-sunday-papers-aug-23-edition/#comment-144270 Art Downs Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:06:24 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=27333#comment-144270 Should we forbid activity that causes a very expensive disease? Look at the foot-stamping that was caused when Mr. Horowitz (still in his 'progressive' stage) wondered openly if the 'bath houses' that were the venue of serial and anonymous buggery were more responsible for the spread of HIV than any action of the Reagan Administration. Live and let love, but let's not be puritanical hypocrites. Should we forbid activity that causes a very expensive disease?

Look at the foot-stamping that was caused when Mr. Horowitz (still in his ‘progressive’ stage) wondered openly if the ‘bath houses’ that were the venue of serial and anonymous buggery were more responsible for the spread of HIV than any action of the Reagan Administration.

Live and let love, but let’s not be puritanical hypocrites.

]]> By: anon2 http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/08/23/read-all-about-it-in-the-sunday-papers-aug-23-edition/#comment-144260 anon2 Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:11:17 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=27333#comment-144260 More concern is with the price of sugar. Some deal was made that sugar producers overseas couldnt export their sugar to the US, to protect the US sugar farmers. Now we are about to have a huge sugar shortage and prices are going to skyrocket. I guess it means more hate on Cuba refusing to let them export to us. Candy makers, bakers and others are concerned there is not enough sugar to make all those sweets so the "free market" gets to force prices higher. We should be more concerned with the anti biotics in our beef than sugar from corn. More concern is with the price of sugar. Some deal was made that sugar producers overseas couldnt export their sugar to the US, to protect the US sugar farmers. Now we are about to have a huge sugar shortage and prices are going to skyrocket. I guess it means more hate on Cuba refusing to let them export to us. Candy makers, bakers and others are concerned there is not enough sugar to make all those sweets so the “free market” gets to force prices higher.

We should be more concerned with the anti biotics in our beef than sugar from corn.

]]> By: Mike Matthews http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/08/23/read-all-about-it-in-the-sunday-papers-aug-23-edition/#comment-144251 Mike Matthews Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:28:35 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=27333#comment-144251 Agreed, Cassandra. Bill Maher has been making this point excellently for years re: corn subsidies and the overabundance of corn in the diets of not just Americans, but the animals we Americans consume. Sure, corn provides richer, more marbled, tasty beef, but what are we getting for it health-wise? Cows naturally are supposed to eat diets in which they graze on greens. The calorie-laden corn is doing neither them nor us any good nutritionally. Agreed, Cassandra. Bill Maher has been making this point excellently for years re: corn subsidies and the overabundance of corn in the diets of not just Americans, but the animals we Americans consume.

Sure, corn provides richer, more marbled, tasty beef, but what are we getting for it health-wise? Cows naturally are supposed to eat diets in which they graze on greens. The calorie-laden corn is doing neither them nor us any good nutritionally.

]]> By: cassandra_m http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/08/23/read-all-about-it-in-the-sunday-papers-aug-23-edition/#comment-144249 cassandra_m Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:19:35 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=27333#comment-144249 I'd like to see the corn and soybean and other federal tax subsidies go away completely. Ridding the system of these price supports will massively change much of the food system -- from what gets grown all the way to how beef and chicken are raised for slaughter. We keep paying the price for a massive overproduction of corn and that price includes finding ways to use it and more of it that aren't especially healthy. If there are to be farm subsidies, I'd prefer that they be of local veggie farms. Those farms are family owned, ADM won't get the biggest cut and a few more local veggies in the grocery can't be a bad thing. Eliminating the subsidy would provide quite abit of funds that could be used in dealing with the health consequences of diets bathed in corn. I’d like to see the corn and soybean and other federal tax subsidies go away completely. Ridding the system of these price supports will massively change much of the food system — from what gets grown all the way to how beef and chicken are raised for slaughter. We keep paying the price for a massive overproduction of corn and that price includes finding ways to use it and more of it that aren’t especially healthy. If there are to be farm subsidies, I’d prefer that they be of local veggie farms. Those farms are family owned, ADM won’t get the biggest cut and a few more local veggies in the grocery can’t be a bad thing.

Eliminating the subsidy would provide quite abit of funds that could be used in dealing with the health consequences of diets bathed in corn.

]]> By: El Somnambulo http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/08/23/read-all-about-it-in-the-sunday-papers-aug-23-edition/#comment-144248 El Somnambulo Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:12:39 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=27333#comment-144248 No, FAR more profound than that. Root Boy Slim's "Dare to Be Fat". 'Havin' a BALL with cholesterOL'. Which reminds 'bulo...best entrance he's ever seen was Root Boy at the West Chester Cabaret back in 1980. They brought him out on a hand truck and dumped him onstage. No, FAR more profound than that. Root Boy Slim’s “Dare to Be Fat”. ‘Havin’ a BALL with cholesterOL’.

Which reminds ‘bulo…best entrance he’s ever seen was Root Boy at the West Chester Cabaret back in 1980. They brought him out on a hand truck and dumped him onstage.

]]> By: Mike Matthews http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/08/23/read-all-about-it-in-the-sunday-papers-aug-23-edition/#comment-144247 Mike Matthews Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:05:25 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=27333#comment-144247 OK, 'bulo...I can't view that clip where I am. Give it up. Is it Richard Thompson's "Fast Food?" OK, ‘bulo…I can’t view that clip where I am. Give it up. Is it Richard Thompson’s “Fast Food?”

]]> By: Geezer http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/08/23/read-all-about-it-in-the-sunday-papers-aug-23-edition/#comment-144245 Geezer Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:01:39 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=27333#comment-144245 ES: Thanks for the laugh. UI: Again, I'm not in favor of a fat tax to reduce people's consumption of such substances. If that happens, it's just a positive byproduct. I'm for taxing those substances to raise the money to care for the health problems caused by those substances. ES: Thanks for the laugh.

UI: Again, I’m not in favor of a fat tax to reduce people’s consumption of such substances. If that happens, it’s just a positive byproduct. I’m for taxing those substances to raise the money to care for the health problems caused by those substances.

]]> By: El Somnambulo http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/08/23/read-all-about-it-in-the-sunday-papers-aug-23-edition/#comment-144243 El Somnambulo Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:54:45 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=27333#comment-144243 While Geezer is one of 'bulo's favorite commenters, his position on the 'junk food tax' places him in diametric opposition to one of 'bulo's favorite musicians. El Somnambulo posts, YOU decide: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqnD11rjrtc While Geezer is one of ‘bulo’s favorite commenters, his position on the ‘junk food tax’ places him in diametric opposition to one of ‘bulo’s favorite musicians. El Somnambulo posts, YOU decide:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqnD11rjrtc

]]> By: Dave M. http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/08/23/read-all-about-it-in-the-sunday-papers-aug-23-edition/#comment-144242 Dave M. Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:53:55 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=27333#comment-144242 I was actually on the Sally Starr show once. She will be missed. I was actually on the Sally Starr show once. She will be missed.

]]> By: Unstable Isotope http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/08/23/read-all-about-it-in-the-sunday-papers-aug-23-edition/#comment-144241 Unstable Isotope Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:52:47 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/?p=27333#comment-144241 I'm for helping people do what we want them to do, rather than punishing them for doing what we don't want them to do. Right now we are rewarding behavior we don't want - by subsidizing farmers to overproduce corn and therefore overproduce HFCS. Fat-shaming doesn't work either - I don't think shame is a very effective way to do business either. I wish we would subsidize people to buy fresh fruit and vegetables - offer tax breaks or something. Also it would be nice to give people subsidized gym memberships or big breaks in insurance rates if you have a gym membership and use it. I’m for helping people do what we want them to do, rather than punishing them for doing what we don’t want them to do. Right now we are rewarding behavior we don’t want – by subsidizing farmers to overproduce corn and therefore overproduce HFCS. Fat-shaming doesn’t work either – I don’t think shame is a very effective way to do business either. I wish we would subsidize people to buy fresh fruit and vegetables – offer tax breaks or something. Also it would be nice to give people subsidized gym memberships or big breaks in insurance rates if you have a gym membership and use it.

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