I’ve realized that I’ve been thinking about this health care reform thing all wrong, and I have the wingnuts to thank for it. I’ve been worried about Republican office holders and wingnut radio hosts stirring up anger and paranoia in their unhinged masses and that people might get hurt as a result. I’m wrong though and I should say why.
Thank you wingnuts for your unhinged rantings at the so-called “Townhell” meetings. Your crazy paranoia and absolutely untruthful beliefs will help stiffen the spines of mushy Democrats who think there is principled opposition out there to health care reform. Now Democrats and the media as well realizes that your opposition comes from sore losers who have been fed misinformation.
Thank you Deathers (your new nickname) for not understanding that Medicare is a government-run system that even most of you are happy with.(Also here.)
Thank you for ridiculing a woman with cancer who can’t get health care insurance because of her pre-existing condition. I’m sure if she’d just “get a job” she’d be hunky-dory.
Thank you for dismissing 47M uninsured Americans as not that many. I’m sure they’re thrilled to get that expensive healthcare at the Emergency Room.
Thank you for holding signs comparing Obama to Hitler because the rest of us totally see that parallel.
Thank you for going on bus tours and letting the media see it, because nothing will get people on your side more than being an out-of-towner abusing local residents.
Thank you for forcing the Republican party to support you publicly. Thank you for bringing them down with you when your movement implodes into a vortex of crazy, just like the Birthers.
Thank you for calling members of Congress liars when they say something truthful.
Thank you for reminding us that we can’t rest on our laurels after an election is over because winning an election is only the beginning of the hard work.
Tags: Deathers, Health Care Reform, Townhells
Right, because people opposing health care reform couldn’t possibly be doing so of their own conviction and based upon their own principles. It couldn’t possibly be that people are actually dissatisfied and are making their voices heard, which is exactly what we do in this country. So much for “dissent is patriotic” huh? It appears you only consider that valid when the left is doing the protesting.
The GOP wasn’t organized enough to run a successful Presidential Bid or have any true leadership or direction during Congressional elections, yet you think they’re capable of manufacturing and organizing opposition to Obamacare? Get real.
Signs comparing Obama to Hitler. Whether accurate or not, I guess that little bit of free speech is only OK when liberals did it with Bush?
Busing in outsiders to protest. Yeah, that’s only OK when they bus out-of-towners into Illinois for anti-gun protests because they lack actually grassroots.
I’m with you, UI. I had no idea what was going on until these
“standup” Americans jibbering at town halls about “Obamacare” filled me in. And, also:
If it wasn’t for that crazy nutbitch at Castle’s meeting who spoke up about the President’s birth certificate, if it wasn’t for these birther/deathers at the town hall meetings, I would never have learned that President Obama is secretly from THE PLANET OF THE MIDDLE EAST and wants his health-care reform to FORCE MY GRANDPARENTS TO PERFORM GAY ABORTIONS IN KENYA.
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Thank goodness for these “Americans”.
Mike – Which corporate backers were behind the Iraq war protests? There are corporate interests that are leveraging the lunatic fringe of one party.
The problem with republcians is they’re so shrill, angry and confrontational. I mean, really, they had their chance to lead and failed. Their fiscal and foreign policy philosophies just don’t work. History continues to repeat itself as the democrats are once again forced to clean up their mess and move the country forward. When the republicans realize they failed, apologize, look inside and try and come to terms with their hatred and anger, they may have a shot at rebuilding their party. Until then, reading their remarks and watching their shennigans reminds me of a second or third grade classroom. After awhile, it just gets annoying.
“The problem with republcians is they’re so shrill, angry and confrontational.”
Boy, I guess all those liberal protesters over the last 8 years or so have been decent, tolerant, well-mannered, respectful and non-violent……oh wait, they haven’t.
Mike W. tries tactic #2 from the ever popular list of blogosphere Republic change-the-thread tactics:
1. Some Democrat/liberal did something worse once before. (probably Teddy or Cindy) and it was just terrible.
2. Some Republic/conservative did something WAY better once before (probably Ronnie) and it was saintly.
3. Silly name-calling.
Expect #3 soon.
Given the nature of DL Contributors I fully expect them to come in with silly name-calling in lieu of anything substantive. It’s what they do here.
4. Divert media attention to Obama’s birth.
5. Instigate town hall meeting obstruction.
6. Activate the swift-boaters.
7. Lie like mad about the proposed health insurance reform bill.
8. Use the old slippery slope argument into government control.
9. Bring on the Hitler/Nazi charge.
10.Make good and plentiful use of the socialized medicine moniker.
Comment by mike w. on 6 August 2009 at 3:27 pm:
“Well I would certainly be at home here if that were the case huh Nemski?
I think DL is already well past it’s allotment of idiots with you, DV, Jason, Cass & Pandora around.”
Mike W: Sorry, but calling people “idiots” (and it only took me two clicks of the mouse to find this) puts you in the silly name-calling category, too. Looks like silly name calling is what you do here, too.
You will find out tomorrow that it is not staged by big money. Come down (up) to Legislative Hall 2to 6 Saturday.
Thank you talking points for reminding us what this is about. It’s about the over-the-top, thuggish, bullying and near-violent groups of anti-reformers who are being encouraged by the Republican party and funded by insurance companies.
Maybe we should all go to Dover Sat. start yelling and bitching about, lets see Bush starting a war on made up shit,you know somethimg that has nothing to do with why everyone is there. kinda like a Heath care town hall and a dumb ass bitch starts on a birth cert. and just hold up the thing that there for and maybe we can be a true Americans like them. This does give me an idea we should go up there and when ever the fat piece of shit from wgop Bill Colley talks we can shut him up.
Let’s be honest.
The CBO scored Obama’s plan as adding to the federal obligation and making the financial puzzle more difficult.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/07/cbo-sees-no-federal-cost-savings-in-dem-health-plans.html
The MAYO Clinic rejected the Obama plan as ineffective.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jul/21/mayo-clinic-calls-house-plan-bad-medicine/?feat=home_cube_position1
If the plan does not save money or improve health outcomes why is Obama proposing it? Is the CBO and the MAYO clinic part of a conspiracy?
Mike Protack
First of all, Mike, we do not have a final bill yet, so the CBO scoring is meaningless.
The WT piece criticized the so-called House version even before there was a vote on one.
Moreover, there are only a couple of sentences on the Mayo Clinic position, so the headline, which is all most people read, and the WT knows it, was totally misleading.
Therefore, your post is not helpful!
You are quite right Perry. You don’t even have a bill yet. Given the recent history of passing a bill before the ink dries, some may want to express an opinion or two before it is written. Perhaps a terrible, terrible mistake could be avoided.
We already have a mistake of healthcare as a system. We also have a number of well-run government health programs that run pretty well.
lg-name one.
Have you used Medicare, Medicaid or the VA? Are there people being taken out of treatment rooms because their insurance has said that they won’t pay for the procedure? That happens with private insurance companies.
It doesn’t happen with any of the above government managed programs. Why? Because they are standardized and they nooks and crannies have been mapped by hospitals, doctors and specialists. Currently we have hundreds of standards, and no one knows for sure what their insurance is going to cover until the inquiry is made.
People in my family use Medicare & Medicaid…they have trouble getting medications on time and with Bush’s change, it’s a financial burden. Many doctors won’t take Medicare now, so they’re limited on the doctors they can use.
And the VA? You’ve got to be kidding. It’s a crime how we treat our servicemen. You forget about Walter Reed, the sterilization of equipment in Florida, the base commander who had servicemen’s families go to outside facilities because they did not have enough.
I will concede that there is one place where govt controlled healthcare is adequate-the plans that the Congress and Senate vote for themselves.
People in my family use Medicare & Medicaid…they have trouble getting medications on time and with Bush’s change, it’s a financial burden. Many doctors won’t take Medicare now, so they’re limited on the doctors they can use.
Why don’t they switch to a private plan?
Good question, anon. And how did they pay for medications before the Part D doughnut hole?
So you also just named 3 problems at specific hospitals at the VA. Here in Delaware we have some very good hospitals. However, Beebe is having patient care issues (big ones) and have you ever gone to the Christiana Hospital emergency room on a weekend? The number of people that should have gone to a family doctor is large. But because they have no insurance, they only see doctors when something become acute.
Sorry Geek, you’re wrong. They go to the emergency room, because they can’t sleep, have poison ivy, a toothache, a stubbed toe, loose stools for 2 hours, and it’s open. It’s why more Urgent Care centers with extended hours are needed. Many folks just don’t like the commitment of having a family physician, or the reasonable business hours they keep. You push for reasonable health care where everyone has a primary provider. I know the reality, that most folks only go when they either “have to”, or something’s wrong. Believe it or not, some of us just want an ad hoc visit, and not this ongoing relationship.
C’mon Joanne, that is not everyone. I have been in there for people that have the same thing that I went to my PCP for treatment. Sure, if something becomes acute on Saturday, that’s where you go, but where do you go when you have insomnia or an ear ache? Would you go as quickly if you knew it was a $200 event or would you hope that it got better on its own for a few more days?
Insomnia is what blogs are for.
Please send us a copy of your health insurance card.
Sorry, I have an HSA. I am going with a cheaper blog.