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		<title>By: Unstable Isotope</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/08/01/how-do-we-deal-with-this/#comment-139053</link>
		<dc:creator>Unstable Isotope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 19:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m from that part of the country and there are certainly a lot of neo-Confederates.  I hate to say &quot;get over it,&quot; but seriously, no one who lives in the South today was alive then, nor were their grandparents.  If they didn&#039;t like losing the war, they shouldn&#039;t have started it.

I don&#039;t think Sherman is to blame for the fundamentalism or the anti-science (anti-reality) bent there.  It&#039;s something else.  I don&#039;t really think you can address some of the problems unless you address the religion thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m from that part of the country and there are certainly a lot of neo-Confederates.  I hate to say &#8220;get over it,&#8221; but seriously, no one who lives in the South today was alive then, nor were their grandparents.  If they didn&#8217;t like losing the war, they shouldn&#8217;t have started it.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Sherman is to blame for the fundamentalism or the anti-science (anti-reality) bent there.  It&#8217;s something else.  I don&#8217;t really think you can address some of the problems unless you address the religion thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Perry</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/08/01/how-do-we-deal-with-this/#comment-139047</link>
		<dc:creator>Perry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 18:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, nemski, the inconsistencies on their &quot;pro-life&quot; position are outrageous.  One is either pro-life, all the way, or cherry picking who should live and who should die.  They cherry pick!

I choose to be pro-life all the way; you name it, I have a pro-life alternative.

My wife is from the South, not of the fundamentalist tribe (Thank god! :) ), but she does strongly respond negatively to the Sherman episode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, nemski, the inconsistencies on their &#8220;pro-life&#8221; position are outrageous.  One is either pro-life, all the way, or cherry picking who should live and who should die.  They cherry pick!</p>
<p>I choose to be pro-life all the way; you name it, I have a pro-life alternative.</p>
<p>My wife is from the South, not of the fundamentalist tribe (Thank god! <img src='http://www.delawareliberal.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  ), but she does strongly respond negatively to the Sherman episode.</p>
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		<title>By: Art Downs</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/08/01/how-do-we-deal-with-this/#comment-139043</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Downs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 18:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there was any doubt about the citizenship of Obama, the snoops tied to the Hillary campaign (Terry Lenzer, &quot;Dirty Larry&quot; Potts) would have used it in the primary.  This &#039;pseudo-issue&#039; may excite some conspiracy theorists but it is more of a diversion than a political ace in the hole.

Perhaps a &#039;bar sinister&#039; might be found but that is not a disqualifying factor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there was any doubt about the citizenship of Obama, the snoops tied to the Hillary campaign (Terry Lenzer, &#8220;Dirty Larry&#8221; Potts) would have used it in the primary.  This &#8216;pseudo-issue&#8217; may excite some conspiracy theorists but it is more of a diversion than a political ace in the hole.</p>
<p>Perhaps a &#8216;bar sinister&#8217; might be found but that is not a disqualifying factor.</p>
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		<title>By: nemski teh awesome</title>
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		<dc:creator>nemski teh awesome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 18:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nemski teh awesome</title>
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		<dc:creator>nemski teh awesome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 18:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Perry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 17:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One way to deal with these zealots is to push back continuously regarding their political positions, while leaving the religious part alone.

Regarding compromise, forget it, as these folks are absolutists, based on their religious beliefs.  Short of giving up on their religion, I don&#039;t see them changing, ever!

Like I mentioned here the other day, I observe that there is a lingering anger in the South, where many of these folks live, over the Sherman &#039;March to the Sea&#039;, a slash and burn maneuver that was allegedly pretty brutal, for which an apology was never offered.

&lt;I&gt;&quot;This perspective remains powerful after the passage of more than a century.&quot;&lt;/I&gt;
http://people.cohums.ohio-state.edu/grimsley1/myth/myth.htm

So both fundamentalist religion and this anger continue to be a powerfully divisive element in our national politic.

That said, this political segment will never be a majority, so their political influence, if continuously pushed back, can be limited, as is happening as we speak on the birther movement.  They end up appearing to be unbelievably silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One way to deal with these zealots is to push back continuously regarding their political positions, while leaving the religious part alone.</p>
<p>Regarding compromise, forget it, as these folks are absolutists, based on their religious beliefs.  Short of giving up on their religion, I don&#8217;t see them changing, ever!</p>
<p>Like I mentioned here the other day, I observe that there is a lingering anger in the South, where many of these folks live, over the Sherman &#8216;March to the Sea&#8217;, a slash and burn maneuver that was allegedly pretty brutal, for which an apology was never offered.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;This perspective remains powerful after the passage of more than a century.&#8221;</i><br />
<a href="http://people.cohums.ohio-state.edu/grimsley1/myth/myth.htm" rel="nofollow">http://people.cohums.ohio-state.edu/grimsley1/myth/myth.htm</a></p>
<p>So both fundamentalist religion and this anger continue to be a powerfully divisive element in our national politic.</p>
<p>That said, this political segment will never be a majority, so their political influence, if continuously pushed back, can be limited, as is happening as we speak on the birther movement.  They end up appearing to be unbelievably silly.</p>
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		<title>By: cassandra_m</title>
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		<dc:creator>cassandra_m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 16:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I posted a chart in UI&#039;s post about this the other day and the thing that strikes me is the outsized influence these southern repubs have.  They are driving the message and ideology of the entire repub party AND they&#039;ve gotten an astonishing amount of media attention.  For a group of people absolutely in the minority in terms of numbers and political beliefs.

It seems that not legitimizing their idiocy is probably a good step in the right direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted a chart in UI&#8217;s post about this the other day and the thing that strikes me is the outsized influence these southern repubs have.  They are driving the message and ideology of the entire repub party AND they&#8217;ve gotten an astonishing amount of media attention.  For a group of people absolutely in the minority in terms of numbers and political beliefs.</p>
<p>It seems that not legitimizing their idiocy is probably a good step in the right direction.</p>
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		<title>By: pandora</title>
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		<dc:creator>pandora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 16:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the problem may only be solved by people in white coats.  Bet the percentage of people who don&#039;t believe Obama was born here lines up with those who don&#039;t believe in evolution, global warming, etc.  This group wallows in willful ignorance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the problem may only be solved by people in white coats.  Bet the percentage of people who don&#8217;t believe Obama was born here lines up with those who don&#8217;t believe in evolution, global warming, etc.  This group wallows in willful ignorance.</p>
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