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	<title>Comments on: Bill Tells Women Seeking An Abortion To Get A Permission Note From The Baby&#8217;s Father</title>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/07/23/bill-tells-women-seeking-an-abortion-to-get-a-permission-note-from-the-babys-father/#comment-136997</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree UI -- Feminism has NOTHING to do with degrading men. Iknow many great men.

Feminism is about women helping/trying to change the way a lot of men, especially those in power, think.  Only by changing this thinking will there ever be true political, social and economic equality of women.
LUCKILY there are are many men (for example these here -- http://www.engagingmen2009.org/24)  out there willing to work together with women toward true equality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree UI &#8212; Feminism has NOTHING to do with degrading men. Iknow many great men.</p>
<p>Feminism is about women helping/trying to change the way a lot of men, especially those in power, think.  Only by changing this thinking will there ever be true political, social and economic equality of women.<br />
LUCKILY there are are many men (for example these here &#8212; <a href="http://www.engagingmen2009.org/24)" rel="nofollow">http://www.engagingmen2009.org/24)</a>  out there willing to work together with women toward true equality.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Boucher</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/07/23/bill-tells-women-seeking-an-abortion-to-get-a-permission-note-from-the-babys-father/#comment-136995</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Short stuff,


Thank you. At least, with this email,
I can say that I tried. To hurt Mr. Adams&#039;
feelings, I mean. 

And as for being harsh, well, I say 
Rep. Adams asked for it. He&#039;s the one,
after all, doing something harmful to
women with this retarded bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Short stuff,</p>
<p>Thank you. At least, with this email,<br />
I can say that I tried. To hurt Mr. Adams&#8217;<br />
feelings, I mean. </p>
<p>And as for being harsh, well, I say<br />
Rep. Adams asked for it. He&#8217;s the one,<br />
after all, doing something harmful to<br />
women with this retarded bill.</p>
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		<title>By: short stuff</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/07/23/bill-tells-women-seeking-an-abortion-to-get-a-permission-note-from-the-babys-father/#comment-136993</link>
		<dc:creator>short stuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s some funny shit Rich... Harsh but funny... I don&#039;t think he&#039;ll get it but his staff should get a kick out of it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s some funny shit Rich&#8230; Harsh but funny&#8230; I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;ll get it but his staff should get a kick out of it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Boucher</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/07/23/bill-tells-women-seeking-an-abortion-to-get-a-permission-note-from-the-babys-father/#comment-136988</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, so this here is for Pandora,
who originated this post, and for the right 
of all women to make choices concerning their own bodies.

Here, as promised, is the email I just sent out
to Ohio State Rep. John Adams (R)etarded, 
concerning his attempt to turn back the clock
on the women of America, HB 252:

&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;&#124;



July 24, 2009

John Adams, Minority Whip
State Representative (R)
Address:
77 S. High St, 14th Floor
Columbus, OH 43215-6111


Dear Representative Adams,
 
I’m writing to you in regard to H. B. No. 252, which I understand has you as its primary sponsor. I have read the bill, and now have a question about it, and I hope that you have the time to reflect upon and then answer my question. According to the language of the bill, as it is written now, it appears that what your bill will do is make it necessary for a pregnant woman to get written consent FIRST from the father before an abortion is performed. If my reading of the bill you have sponsored is correct, then I would like to ask you if you are MENTALLY RETARDED. It is my hope that you will not take offense at the question, it’s just that I find it difficult to believe that a state representative would be able to propose and sponsor such a bill and not be INOPERABLY RETARDED IN THE BRAIN.

I think it’s a shame that you are trying to push for legislation that will set back the progress of women in this country. However, to be fair, if my intuition is correct, and you *are* mentally retarded, let me at least congratulate you for overcoming what I think everyone would agree is a tremendous obstacle to obtaining public office.



Sincerely Yours,
 
Rich Boucher</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, so this here is for Pandora,<br />
who originated this post, and for the right<br />
of all women to make choices concerning their own bodies.</p>
<p>Here, as promised, is the email I just sent out<br />
to Ohio State Rep. John Adams (R)etarded,<br />
concerning his attempt to turn back the clock<br />
on the women of America, HB 252:</p>
<p>|||||||||||||||||||</p>
<p>July 24, 2009</p>
<p>John Adams, Minority Whip<br />
State Representative (R)<br />
Address:<br />
77 S. High St, 14th Floor<br />
Columbus, OH 43215-6111</p>
<p>Dear Representative Adams,</p>
<p>I’m writing to you in regard to H. B. No. 252, which I understand has you as its primary sponsor. I have read the bill, and now have a question about it, and I hope that you have the time to reflect upon and then answer my question. According to the language of the bill, as it is written now, it appears that what your bill will do is make it necessary for a pregnant woman to get written consent FIRST from the father before an abortion is performed. If my reading of the bill you have sponsored is correct, then I would like to ask you if you are MENTALLY RETARDED. It is my hope that you will not take offense at the question, it’s just that I find it difficult to believe that a state representative would be able to propose and sponsor such a bill and not be INOPERABLY RETARDED IN THE BRAIN.</p>
<p>I think it’s a shame that you are trying to push for legislation that will set back the progress of women in this country. However, to be fair, if my intuition is correct, and you *are* mentally retarded, let me at least congratulate you for overcoming what I think everyone would agree is a tremendous obstacle to obtaining public office.</p>
<p>Sincerely Yours,</p>
<p>Rich Boucher</p>
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		<title>By: Unstable Isotope</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unstable Isotope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m loving you short stuff.

Feminism isn&#039;t about degrading men, it&#039;s about treating women and their choices as equal to anyone else&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m loving you short stuff.</p>
<p>Feminism isn&#8217;t about degrading men, it&#8217;s about treating women and their choices as equal to anyone else&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: short stuff</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/07/23/bill-tells-women-seeking-an-abortion-to-get-a-permission-note-from-the-babys-father/#comment-136977</link>
		<dc:creator>short stuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is ridiculous.  As a single father of two kids AND YES I HAVE FULL CUSTODY OF MY KIDS.  A woman&#039;s right to decide is simple, SHE CARRIES THE BABY FOR 9 MONTHS!!  If she doesn&#039;t want to do that, that&#039;s her choice, not MINE, not any MAN&#039;s choice.  Until men start carrying babies for 9 months, NO we have no say in it.  And for all the self righteous bull about it&#039;s about the same cost to take care of kids, you&#039;re so full of shit, you have no idea.  

&quot;U. I. marriage is a permanent covenant. You all see men as sperm donors and checks. That degrading of men is the greatest threat to civilization. It is the heart of radical feminism and must be condemned. Men have rights just as much as women do to raise their children.&quot;

No one is degrading men.  No one sees men as sperm donors and No, unfortunately marriage isn&#039;t a permanent covenant.  A belief that it&#039;s permanent, yes that&#039;s true.  This is a matter of who is the vessel for the initial point of suffering and I think you&#039;re missing the point that until WE can carry babies on our own, we have no say.  

Being a Man has nothing to do with what feminism says or doesn&#039;t say.  I&#039;m perfectly 100% in my manhood regardless of what feminists say.  The biggest threat to civilization is the belief that we don&#039;t have to change.  Even God made a change in his covenant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is ridiculous.  As a single father of two kids AND YES I HAVE FULL CUSTODY OF MY KIDS.  A woman&#8217;s right to decide is simple, SHE CARRIES THE BABY FOR 9 MONTHS!!  If she doesn&#8217;t want to do that, that&#8217;s her choice, not MINE, not any MAN&#8217;s choice.  Until men start carrying babies for 9 months, NO we have no say in it.  And for all the self righteous bull about it&#8217;s about the same cost to take care of kids, you&#8217;re so full of shit, you have no idea.  </p>
<p>&#8220;U. I. marriage is a permanent covenant. You all see men as sperm donors and checks. That degrading of men is the greatest threat to civilization. It is the heart of radical feminism and must be condemned. Men have rights just as much as women do to raise their children.&#8221;</p>
<p>No one is degrading men.  No one sees men as sperm donors and No, unfortunately marriage isn&#8217;t a permanent covenant.  A belief that it&#8217;s permanent, yes that&#8217;s true.  This is a matter of who is the vessel for the initial point of suffering and I think you&#8217;re missing the point that until WE can carry babies on our own, we have no say.  </p>
<p>Being a Man has nothing to do with what feminism says or doesn&#8217;t say.  I&#8217;m perfectly 100% in my manhood regardless of what feminists say.  The biggest threat to civilization is the belief that we don&#8217;t have to change.  Even God made a change in his covenant.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Boucher</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/07/23/bill-tells-women-seeking-an-abortion-to-get-a-permission-note-from-the-babys-father/#comment-136976</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You all see men as sperm donors and checks. That degrading of men is the greatest threat to civilization.&quot;

Oh, for FUCK&#039;S sake, this is just a RETARDED thing to say. 

Republican David, are you seriously that thick in the skull?
I&#039;ll say it one more time, s - l - o - w - l - y, so that you
can digest this:

What Representative Adams is trying to do here is to CONTROL WOMEN,
because he DOES NOT VIEW THEM AS EQUALS. 

Tits or GTFO, David!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You all see men as sperm donors and checks. That degrading of men is the greatest threat to civilization.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, for FUCK&#8217;S sake, this is just a RETARDED thing to say. </p>
<p>Republican David, are you seriously that thick in the skull?<br />
I&#8217;ll say it one more time, s &#8211; l &#8211; o &#8211; w &#8211; l &#8211; y, so that you<br />
can digest this:</p>
<p>What Representative Adams is trying to do here is to CONTROL WOMEN,<br />
because he DOES NOT VIEW THEM AS EQUALS. </p>
<p>Tits or GTFO, David!</p>
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		<title>By: cassandra_m</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/07/23/bill-tells-women-seeking-an-abortion-to-get-a-permission-note-from-the-babys-father/#comment-136972</link>
		<dc:creator>cassandra_m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point being that you get a say in the decision-making when you make irrevocable commitments to a level of financial support that does not leave mother and child in poverty.  Everyone has responsibilities here -- your words, I think -- and you&#039;d think that men serious about the raising of children wouldn&#039;t think twice about long term financial commitments to the raising of them.

And until the level of responsibility for raising the child are equal, you should not be an equal partner in the decision to have the child. Otherwise you are known for trying to control the lives of women, not in making sure that children are wanted and well taken care of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point being that you get a say in the decision-making when you make irrevocable commitments to a level of financial support that does not leave mother and child in poverty.  Everyone has responsibilities here &#8212; your words, I think &#8212; and you&#8217;d think that men serious about the raising of children wouldn&#8217;t think twice about long term financial commitments to the raising of them.</p>
<p>And until the level of responsibility for raising the child are equal, you should not be an equal partner in the decision to have the child. Otherwise you are known for trying to control the lives of women, not in making sure that children are wanted and well taken care of.</p>
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		<title>By: Unstable Isotope</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/07/23/bill-tells-women-seeking-an-abortion-to-get-a-permission-note-from-the-babys-father/#comment-136970</link>
		<dc:creator>Unstable Isotope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Men have rights - yep, that&#039;s why there&#039;s so many men that don&#039;t support their children.  Not everyone is married either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Men have rights &#8211; yep, that&#8217;s why there&#8217;s so many men that don&#8217;t support their children.  Not everyone is married either.</p>
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		<title>By: Republican David</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/07/23/bill-tells-women-seeking-an-abortion-to-get-a-permission-note-from-the-babys-father/#comment-136965</link>
		<dc:creator>Republican David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No they are not, I have children and combined it does not cost that much to raise them.  You pay for your housing anyway. Pandora, how can you say something so absurd.  Impoverishing people does not encourage child support payments. 40% of a homeless jobless person&#039;s income is a lot less than 25% of a working man&#039;s.  Stop taxing men and women who pay  child support while you are at it.  That&#039;s right tax cuts....

 In case you missed it my solution was to let the man have the child the mother doesn&#039;t want.  Wouldn&#039;t he have primary responsibility for the child including financial?  How would that be shirking a responsibility?  I know that you can read so why aren&#039;t you?

U. I. marriage is a permanent covenant.  You all see men as sperm donors and checks.  That degrading of men is the greatest threat to civilization.  It is the heart of radical feminism and must be condemned.  Men have rights just as much as women do to raise their children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No they are not, I have children and combined it does not cost that much to raise them.  You pay for your housing anyway. Pandora, how can you say something so absurd.  Impoverishing people does not encourage child support payments. 40% of a homeless jobless person&#8217;s income is a lot less than 25% of a working man&#8217;s.  Stop taxing men and women who pay  child support while you are at it.  That&#8217;s right tax cuts&#8230;.</p>
<p> In case you missed it my solution was to let the man have the child the mother doesn&#8217;t want.  Wouldn&#8217;t he have primary responsibility for the child including financial?  How would that be shirking a responsibility?  I know that you can read so why aren&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>U. I. marriage is a permanent covenant.  You all see men as sperm donors and checks.  That degrading of men is the greatest threat to civilization.  It is the heart of radical feminism and must be condemned.  Men have rights just as much as women do to raise their children.</p>
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		<title>By: Unstable Isotope</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unstable Isotope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cassandra,

I think men must sign a paper like this every time they have sex with a woman since according to the Republicans sex is for baby-making.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cassandra,</p>
<p>I think men must sign a paper like this every time they have sex with a woman since according to the Republicans sex is for baby-making.</p>
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		<title>By: pandora</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/07/23/bill-tells-women-seeking-an-abortion-to-get-a-permission-note-from-the-babys-father/#comment-136854</link>
		<dc:creator>pandora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 06:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See how David shirks his and other men&#039;s financial responsibility.  It&#039;s all about life until you have to pay the piper.  Then... not so much.  And yes, Cassandra&#039;s figures are accurate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See how David shirks his and other men&#8217;s financial responsibility.  It&#8217;s all about life until you have to pay the piper.  Then&#8230; not so much.  And yes, Cassandra&#8217;s figures are accurate.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/07/23/bill-tells-women-seeking-an-abortion-to-get-a-permission-note-from-the-babys-father/#comment-136850</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 04:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We already have allocations for child support. &quot;

Yeah, and you try raising a child on that money - or half a child, I suppose.  And those allocations ar eonly good if the father PAYS which, much of the time, they suck at doing.

&quot;Considering it doesn’t cost 40% of income to pay for one child that is silly.&quot;

Depends on how much money you make and if you want to make sure your child lives at least as good as you.  See, child support isn&#039;t only for food and clothing - but also rent etc. Much less then 2K - yeah, it took 40percent of my income to raise my child and at times even more.

&quot;I would say let him have the child unless there is some reason which prevents it. Why make her raise a child she didn’t want when a father is willing? If neither are fit, there is adoption.&quot;

Ahh....a living incubator and nothimg more...

THANK GOD men can not tell us women what to do with OUR BODIES.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We already have allocations for child support. &#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, and you try raising a child on that money &#8211; or half a child, I suppose.  And those allocations ar eonly good if the father PAYS which, much of the time, they suck at doing.</p>
<p>&#8220;Considering it doesn’t cost 40% of income to pay for one child that is silly.&#8221;</p>
<p>Depends on how much money you make and if you want to make sure your child lives at least as good as you.  See, child support isn&#8217;t only for food and clothing &#8211; but also rent etc. Much less then 2K &#8211; yeah, it took 40percent of my income to raise my child and at times even more.</p>
<p>&#8220;I would say let him have the child unless there is some reason which prevents it. Why make her raise a child she didn’t want when a father is willing? If neither are fit, there is adoption.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ahh&#8230;.a living incubator and nothimg more&#8230;</p>
<p>THANK GOD men can not tell us women what to do with OUR BODIES.</p>
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		<title>By: Republican David</title>
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		<dc:creator>Republican David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 04:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems a little stupid.  We already have allocations for child support. Considering it doesn&#039;t cost 40% of income to pay for one child that is silly. Why do you assume that he wouldn&#039;t want to have custody of the child?  I would say let him have the child unless there is some reason which prevents it.  Why make her raise a child she didn&#039;t want when a father is willing?  If neither are fit, there is adoption.

This is a bill which will not pass out of committee in its current form so the argument over details about a bill in Ohio is laughable.  That is why I would rather take the big  picture as I did.  Most bills of this type are spousal notification which are wholly reasonable as I said earlier. I wish you would tackle the larger issues but you choose not to.  

  College education is not a right and no one is obligated to pay for it including tax payers just by virtue of one breathing. Earn it or go to a place that you can afford.  Work, join the service whether civilian or military or one can Many get lostudy and earn a scholarship. Many get loans. Respect the gifts of others who invest in you as a privilege and honor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems a little stupid.  We already have allocations for child support. Considering it doesn&#8217;t cost 40% of income to pay for one child that is silly. Why do you assume that he wouldn&#8217;t want to have custody of the child?  I would say let him have the child unless there is some reason which prevents it.  Why make her raise a child she didn&#8217;t want when a father is willing?  If neither are fit, there is adoption.</p>
<p>This is a bill which will not pass out of committee in its current form so the argument over details about a bill in Ohio is laughable.  That is why I would rather take the big  picture as I did.  Most bills of this type are spousal notification which are wholly reasonable as I said earlier. I wish you would tackle the larger issues but you choose not to.  </p>
<p>  College education is not a right and no one is obligated to pay for it including tax payers just by virtue of one breathing. Earn it or go to a place that you can afford.  Work, join the service whether civilian or military or one can Many get lostudy and earn a scholarship. Many get loans. Respect the gifts of others who invest in you as a privilege and honor.</p>
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		<title>By: cassandra_m</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/07/23/bill-tells-women-seeking-an-abortion-to-get-a-permission-note-from-the-babys-father/#comment-136807</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 01:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any man who wants to stay an abortion must agree to:

1.  An irrevocable child support allocation of at least 40% of his income in the case that he does not marry the mother OR he divorces the mother.  That allocation goes up -- way up -- if there is more than one kid.  Said allocation of income goes away once the kid is 21 or out of college.

2.  An irrevocable agreement to start a Coverdale or similar account for the baby the day it is born that he has to contribute a minimum of $100/month to in order to make sure college costs are taken care of.

3.  An irrevocable agreement that if he inherits any money, 20% gets put in the kid&#039;s name.

So I think that if all of these men want a say, they&#039;d be willing to make an ironclad offer of lifetime monetary support at a pretty hefty level -- it is for the kids, you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any man who wants to stay an abortion must agree to:</p>
<p>1.  An irrevocable child support allocation of at least 40% of his income in the case that he does not marry the mother OR he divorces the mother.  That allocation goes up &#8212; way up &#8212; if there is more than one kid.  Said allocation of income goes away once the kid is 21 or out of college.</p>
<p>2.  An irrevocable agreement to start a Coverdale or similar account for the baby the day it is born that he has to contribute a minimum of $100/month to in order to make sure college costs are taken care of.</p>
<p>3.  An irrevocable agreement that if he inherits any money, 20% gets put in the kid&#8217;s name.</p>
<p>So I think that if all of these men want a say, they&#8217;d be willing to make an ironclad offer of lifetime monetary support at a pretty hefty level &#8212; it is for the kids, you know.</p>
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