Beyond birther nuttiness, I think the reason the clip has gone viral is because it is a VERY vivid glimpse into just how effed up the GOP is right now.
The “base” has a fairly conservative guy (if you look at his whole record) in a Dem district who always wins, but they hate his guts and state openly rather see him lose to a Dem than be reelected.
Everyone has known this about the GOP base for a while…but this is seeing it played out in realtime.
Holy Shi…I just looked at my so called “birth certificate” and it doesn’t say “Birth Certificate” anywhere on it. It says “New Jersey Department of Health” and “Birth Record” but does not say “certificate.”
My Delaware birth certificate also says “live birth record” instead of certificate, and I only have a copy! Perhaps I am a evil terrorist that is not really alive!!!
I must also add that my obviously forged birth certificate was acceptable as proof of citizenship when I got my driver’s license (in 4 different states), my passport, my wedding license and for the Immigration services (for marriage to my Canadian husband).
G*d, the stoopid…it burns!
As we all know this isn’t about the birth certificate, but about the colour of his skin. “I want my country back!” Yeah, sure. You want your white country back.
Mine says record of birth, but it shows I was born in Jewish Hospital in St. Louis. Since this is not a Christian hospital, I wonder if I’m a citizen. Maybe I’m Israeli. Wow.
Actually, technically he’s MORE American than the English founding fathers, but let’s not stop that from eliminating all children of immigrants from being American!
aww man – mine says BIRTH CERTIFICATE – in 5 different languages even. And it states that I am the daughter of Dieter Wolfgang Schwarz and Eleonore Kaethe Martha Blochwitz….but no hospital or doctor – they don’t do that in Germany..we don’t do footprints either.
I WANNE BE FROM KENYA TOO!!! Then again..Kenya is closer to Germany then it is to here – so maybe we are distant cousins??
This just goes to show how much people believe every trumped up soundbite and fail to think for themselves. Entertainers entertain. They embellish for effect. Don’t believe everything they say as gospel, people.
When I turned on Morning Joe this morning, there was that crazy lady video shouting at Mike Castle. Mike Barnacle said “it looks like the morning room of a psychiatirc clinic.” I think he got that right.
I said as much yesterday and I continue to agree w/ A. Price, this is a total embarrassment to us and to our state. (Setting aside that we are suppose to pretend these people were from MD and NJ.)
Unlike the president, I actually was born in another country. My birth certificate says “Certification of Birth Abroad,” and is signed by the Secretary of State.
[...] Timothy Pancoast of Delaware Politics thinks that if Castle listens to the Birthers, it will help the nation. Uh, ok. Help it how, Timmy? You want the nation to believe a lie again? Yes, all you Birthers out there are liars. Every last one of you. How are you guys liars? This is why. [...]
Let’s stick to the State of Hawaii, not New Jersey or anywhere else.
Let’s stick to the rules of best evidence, ie, actual, documented records and documents.
Let Mr. Obama open all his files and let the officials of those files present the pertenent documents to the public for examination and investigation.
Mr. Obama has caused and fueled this controversy by refusing to release his records, not only from the hospital but also his college records in CA, NY and MA.
Historians dig into the most obscure facts of all our presidents and No 44 is an historical president even if he served only one day. This controversy should be laid to rest with an exhaustive look at his records and Mr. Obama should NOT stand in the way.
My understanding is the State of Hawaii issued Birth Certificates that included common birth data not reflected on this “Certification” of Live Birth. The State of Hawaii also issued these “Certifications”..not “Certificates” to citizens born out of state.
So for the truthful, historical record of our 44th President, what if anything is the difference between a “Certification” and a “Certificate” from the state and what were they typically issuing at that time. President Obama should completely release this personal information and end the controversy once and for all.
I’m not convinced one way or another but if I was sitting in a jury room trying to decide, I’d want the rule of law and evidence before me, not a mob of blue people yelling “Yes he is!” or red people yelling “No he isn’t”.
The vetted truth would end this blue vs red madness.
Waiting for Preston to brag on Warren Harding
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/23/more-than-you-want-to-know-about-warren-harding/
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Comment by jason330 on 21 July 2009 at 5:47 pm:
Beyond birther nuttiness, I think the reason the clip has gone viral is because it is a VERY vivid glimpse into just how effed up the GOP is right now.
The “base” has a fairly conservative guy (if you look at his whole record) in a Dem district who always wins, but they hate his guts and state openly rather see him lose to a Dem than be reelected.
Everyone has known this about the GOP base for a while…but this is seeing it played out in realtime.
Comment by jason330 on 21 July 2009 at 6:04 pm:
Holy Shi…I just looked at my so called “birth certificate” and it doesn’t say “Birth Certificate” anywhere on it. It says “New Jersey Department of Health” and “Birth Record” but does not say “certificate.”
Maybe I was born in Kenya.
Comment by Rich Boucher on 21 July 2009 at 6:05 pm:
Thank you for this, Nemski!
Comment by Mark H on 21 July 2009 at 6:07 pm:
Deport Jason!!!!
Comment by Delaware Dem on 21 July 2009 at 6:08 pm:
My Delaware birth certificate also says “live birth record” instead of certificate, and I only have a copy! Perhaps I am a evil terrorist that is not really alive!!!
Comment by Unstable Isotope on 21 July 2009 at 6:12 pm:
Mine doesn’t have the doctor’s name or hospital name either, am I Kenyan?
Comment by Unstable Isotope on 21 July 2009 at 6:19 pm:
Someone spiked Chris Matthews wheaties today.
More like this, please.
Comment by cassandra_m on 21 July 2009 at 6:22 pm:
Mine says Certificate of Live Birth too. No doctor listed, no hospital listed. I wonder of UI and I are related via our Kenyan ancestors?
Comment by Unstable Isotope on 21 July 2009 at 6:46 pm:
Welcome, cousin Cassandra.
Comment by Unstable Isotope on 21 July 2009 at 6:48 pm:
I must also add that my obviously forged birth certificate was acceptable as proof of citizenship when I got my driver’s license (in 4 different states), my passport, my wedding license and for the Immigration services (for marriage to my Canadian husband).
Comment by cassandra_m on 21 July 2009 at 6:56 pm:
Just wait til you try to run for President, though, cousin.
Comment by Unstable Isotope on 21 July 2009 at 7:19 pm:
Good point. I’ll have to crank up the time machine to make sure the conspiracy to cover up my true birth is intact.
Comment by the cajun on 21 July 2009 at 7:56 pm:
G*d, the stoopid…it burns!
As we all know this isn’t about the birth certificate, but about the colour of his skin. “I want my country back!” Yeah, sure. You want your white country back.
Taxi! Drive me off this movie.
Comment by MJ on 21 July 2009 at 8:23 pm:
Mine says record of birth, but it shows I was born in Jewish Hospital in St. Louis. Since this is not a Christian hospital, I wonder if I’m a citizen. Maybe I’m Israeli. Wow.
Comment by cassandra_m on 21 July 2009 at 8:44 pm:
Stop frontin’, MJ — you know you are Kenyan too…..
Comment by pandora on 21 July 2009 at 8:47 pm:
Oops! Mine says certificate of live birth as well. We are family!
Comment by MJ on 21 July 2009 at 9:28 pm:
Well, I have to be honest here – my real name is Mao Jomokenyatta Goldberg.
Comment by cassandra_m on 21 July 2009 at 9:38 pm:
Now, how hard was that?
Comment by MJ on 21 July 2009 at 9:46 pm:
I feel like a great burden has been lifted. Long live the Kikuyu!
Comment by cassandra_m on 21 July 2009 at 9:56 pm:
We are all Kenyans on this bus….
Comment by anon on 21 July 2009 at 10:02 pm:
“Oh say Kenya see… “
Comment by Unstable Isotope on 21 July 2009 at 10:33 pm:
I’m personally thrilled to have so many new relatives!
Comment by anonone on 21 July 2009 at 11:03 pm:
Pretty good forgery.
Comment by Nick on 21 July 2009 at 11:03 pm:
Actually, technically he’s MORE American than the English founding fathers, but let’s not stop that from eliminating all children of immigrants from being American!
Comment by A. price on 21 July 2009 at 11:47 pm:
that crazy woman humiliates me as a Delawarian, American, and human.
Comment by Suzanne on 22 July 2009 at 12:07 am:
aww man – mine says BIRTH CERTIFICATE – in 5 different languages even. And it states that I am the daughter of Dieter Wolfgang Schwarz and Eleonore Kaethe Martha Blochwitz….but no hospital or doctor – they don’t do that in Germany..we don’t do footprints either.
I WANNE BE FROM KENYA TOO!!! Then again..Kenya is closer to Germany then it is to here – so maybe we are distant cousins??
Comment by Brian Shields on 22 July 2009 at 1:19 am:
This just goes to show how much people believe every trumped up soundbite and fail to think for themselves. Entertainers entertain. They embellish for effect. Don’t believe everything they say as gospel, people.
Comment by June on 22 July 2009 at 9:04 am:
When I turned on Morning Joe this morning, there was that crazy lady video shouting at Mike Castle. Mike Barnacle said “it looks like the morning room of a psychiatirc clinic.” I think he got that right.
Comment by Dorian Gray on 22 July 2009 at 9:12 am:
I said as much yesterday and I continue to agree w/ A. Price, this is a total embarrassment to us and to our state. (Setting aside that we are suppose to pretend these people were from MD and NJ.)
Comment by nemski teh awesome on 22 July 2009 at 9:17 am:
Kent and Sussex counties are proving day after day that they have more in common with Alabama and Arkansas than they do with New Castle County.
Comment by Bobby Thomson on 22 July 2009 at 10:56 am:
Heh.
Unlike the president, I actually was born in another country. My birth certificate says “Certification of Birth Abroad,” and is signed by the Secretary of State.
These people are loons. Really stupid loons.
Comment by Rhymes With Right on 22 July 2009 at 1:51 pm:
Kent and Sussex counties are proving day after day that they have more in common with Alabama and Arkansas than they do with New Castle County.
Given that your state had slavery longer than Alabama and Arkansas, that speaks more highly of Kent and Sussex Counties than of New Castle County.
And as I recall, wasn’t Delaware one of the states that had a case on segregated schools decided along with Brown v. Board of Ed?
Pingback by Around the Horn — July 24, 2009 : DelawareLiberal.Net on 24 July 2009 at 10:32 pm:
[...] Timothy Pancoast of Delaware Politics thinks that if Castle listens to the Birthers, it will help the nation. Uh, ok. Help it how, Timmy? You want the nation to believe a lie again? Yes, all you Birthers out there are liars. Every last one of you. How are you guys liars? This is why. [...]
Comment by Bob on 26 July 2009 at 12:50 pm:
Let’s stick to the State of Hawaii, not New Jersey or anywhere else.
Let’s stick to the rules of best evidence, ie, actual, documented records and documents.
Let Mr. Obama open all his files and let the officials of those files present the pertenent documents to the public for examination and investigation.
Mr. Obama has caused and fueled this controversy by refusing to release his records, not only from the hospital but also his college records in CA, NY and MA.
Historians dig into the most obscure facts of all our presidents and No 44 is an historical president even if he served only one day. This controversy should be laid to rest with an exhaustive look at his records and Mr. Obama should NOT stand in the way.
My understanding is the State of Hawaii issued Birth Certificates that included common birth data not reflected on this “Certification” of Live Birth. The State of Hawaii also issued these “Certifications”..not “Certificates” to citizens born out of state.
So for the truthful, historical record of our 44th President, what if anything is the difference between a “Certification” and a “Certificate” from the state and what were they typically issuing at that time. President Obama should completely release this personal information and end the controversy once and for all.
I’m not convinced one way or another but if I was sitting in a jury room trying to decide, I’d want the rule of law and evidence before me, not a mob of blue people yelling “Yes he is!” or red people yelling “No he isn’t”.
The vetted truth would end this blue vs red madness.