Georgetown Delaware Wingnut Birther Lady Now Officially Famous

Filed in National by on July 20, 2009

Rush Limbaugh (link) used her on his radio show today to illustrate his claim that “there’s (birther anger) bubbling up out there.”

RUSH: State of Delaware, Mike Castle, town meeting, woman wants to know why nobody’s interested in the fact that he hasn’t shown anybody his birth certificate. If you couldn’t understand her, she was saying he’s a citizen of Kenya. I’m American. My father worked, fought in World War II, the greatest generation, Pacific theater for this country, and I don’t want this flag to change. The crowd went nuts. There’s all kinds of stuff bubbling up out there.

So can we put a name to this famous wingnut lady yet? And what has this done for Mike Castle? Has becoming the patrician-aloof-condescending-old-guard-mainline-Republican-birther-sceptic-poster-child made it easier for Christine O’Donnell to raise money?

For that matter – where is Christine on this?

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  1. She now joins the ranks of other famous ladies like “that crazy PUMA lady” and “that crazy ‘Obama is an Arab’ lady.” She should be so honored.

    We definitely need a “name that lady” contest.

  2. Real American says:

    This woman is a total ASS just like the Fat Bastard from WGOP(3to 7) that turned around in the video. what is really scary is that I might be driving some day and this total ASS of a woman could be on this same road. Foget the birth cert. lets see the drivers license of this stupid bitch.

  3. cassandra_m says:

    Ok, so did we just find Mr. Shallow Bench’s Lt. Gov running mate in this crazy lady?

  4. In a total coincidence, Atrios reminds us that the crazy PUMA lady’s name is Harriet Christian.

  5. polodo says:

    Okay….we have batshit crazy birther lady, you have Joe Biden. Let’s call it even. (Take the deal….you’ll need it more!)

  6. rhubard says:

    “Okay….we have batshit crazy birther lady, you have Joe Biden”

    How it must gall you that the one you agree with is the one out of power. Get used to that.

  7. Kurward Derby says:

    Rachel ran the Castle/birther video on her show tonight.

  8. polodo says:

    “How it must gall you that the one you agree with is the one out of power. Get used to that.”

    ??? Justice Alito and Justice Roberts are right (!) where we left them…Get used to that.

  9. jason330 says:

    Kurard, thanks for the heads up. Nothing posted yet, but I’ll be looking.

  10. Geezer says:

    “Justice Alito and Justice Roberts are right (!) where we left them…Get used to that.”

    I’m sure they’ll someday make up the minority of white men on SCOTUS.

  11. polodo says:

    “I’m sure they’ll someday make up the minority of white men on SCOTUS.”

    Hahaha….oh….you were serious….silly liberal!

  12. I’m sure crazy birther lady is now proud that everyone knows she carries her birth certificate around in a bag.

  13. Rich Boucher says:

    Ok, you all finally piqued my ire/curiosity
    and I can’t keep seeing this word on here
    without someone giving me a definition:

    define the word “birther”

    thanks.

  14. jason330 says:

    You know how the suffix “gate” was added to every scandal after Watergate? Well, 9/11 nutbags who thought the towers were blown up by Dick Cheney or that the PA plane never really crashed were called “truthers” – now birth certificate conspiracy theorists are caller “birthers”

  15. Rich,

    I’ll let urban dictionary do it:

    Birther 113 up, 24 down love it hate it

    A conspiracy theorist who believes that Barack Obama is ineligible for the Presidency of the United States, based on any number of claims related to his place of birth, birth certificate, favorite birthday, or whether or not he has heard the song Africa by Toto.

  16. anoni says:

    Birther is short hand for the people who question Obama’s eligibility to serve, based on anecdotal evidence (african family members who claim to have been present at his birth in Kenya) and the lengths that BHO has gone to to avoid releasing documents about his past (Original Birth Certificate, school records and transcripts, over a million dollars in legal fees)

  17. anoni says:

    what a helpfull bunch we are, 3 answers in under 15 minutes

  18. jason330 says:

    Eg. “Anoni is a birther and probably also retarded for suggesting that Obama has not released his birth ceritficate.”

    That’s all I’m going to say about that. I’d rather talk about gun control that engage with birther a-holes.

  19. arthur says:

    I am starting to worry. As we all know in DE, listening to someone from Georgetown is to accept anything they say with a grain of salt. but do they really reflect mainstteet america? god, i hope not.

  20. Dorian Gray says:

    You know National Geographic dedicated an entire issue debunking the “fake” moon landing nutters. Popular Mechanic did the same for the 9/11 “truthers”. Of course insanity being what it is some just can’t let it go… but I think this would be a great idea for you guys at DE Lib…I’ll nominate myself as investigative journo… fly me to HI ASAP!

    For the record:

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp

  21. Good idea, DG. Let’s start fundraising.

    It’s also been debunked at politifact and factcheck.org.

  22. anoni says:

    looks like it’s not just Mike Castle who is catching heat from the voters…

    HHS Secretary Sebelius Faces Anger at LA Town Hall on ObamaCare – Video 7/20/09
    Freedom’s Lighthouse ^ | July 21, 2009 | BrianinMO

    Here is video of Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius being told by a man at a town hall meeting on health care, “”Please carry a message to Mr. Obama that it will be a cold day in hell before he socializes my county.” When Sebelius went on to say that ObamaCare would let people keep their private insurance, the crowd laughed at her. The meeting was held yesterday in Reserve, Louisiana.

    This is the third such town hall meeting we know of (Russ Carnahan, Ben Cardin) where the audience has called Democrats on the carpet about the proposed ObamaCare legislation. The natives are indeed getting restless! . . . .

    http://www.freedomslighthouse.com/2009/07/man-tells-hhs-secretary-sebelius-at.html

  23. Rich Boucher says:

    Thank you, UI! I just saw the clip on CNN of that RETARD demanding to know why “you people” don’t answer questions about President Obama’s birth certificate. I’m almost in tears, upset and embarrassed for Delaware that the nation has seen this retard.

  24. anoni says:

    one of the plusses of this site is being called names by a chubby rich kid,

  25. jason330 says:

    This Brad Johnson post at Thinkprogress is a must read.

    While everyone has ben focused on the birther nutbag – there is a whole universe of Republican paranoia and nuttiness going on in the clip:

    – Socialized Medicine’ Will Destroy The Nation
    – The Cap And Trade ‘Tax’ Will Kill The American Economy
    – Global Warming Is A Hoax.
    – Darwinian Evolution is Just A Theory
    – The Swine Flu Epidemic Is A Conspiracy To Force AIDS-Infected Vaccines On The American Public

  26. Rich,

    I suggest you stop the birther research here. If you go further you risk being sucked into their crazy fever swamp. Ignorance really is bliss in this case.

  27. Rich Boucher says:

    UI,

    I should have taken your advice before you gave it to me.
    An old poet friend of mine on my Facebook actually tried
    to get into this on my FB page:

    “every time anyone has raised the question, instead of providing answers, the questioners have been silenced and the question itself dodged. citizens who have sued for the release of his birth certificate have had their suits dismissed under the pretense that a citizen has no standing in such matters.”

    ^ the above quote is from an old poet friend of mine. I would submit that such a rejoinder in this discussion is pretty much “off the deep end”.

    Also, any citizen suing for the “release” of President Obama’s birth certificate has no legal standing to speak in defense of their own SANITY, in my opinion.

    Jesus. Aych. Christ.

    TITS OR GTFO, retard birthers.

  28. keep actin crazy says:

    Well I dont know about anyone else but I hope the wingsnuts keep actin crazy so in 2012 we can just pull up these clips and let them keep diggin the holes deeper hopefully in one or two more generations there will be no such thing as a republicans!!!…was anyone else embarassed to be from Delaware when they heard this lady?…sigh….Hicks stickit where the sun dont shine…keep diggin the hole deeper..lol

  29. Dana says:

    Oh, I accept that he is a natural born citizen: I even have a copy of his birth certificate posted!

  30. Really I have no idea what these crazy birthers expect. Do they think anyone should just produce a birth certificate for anyone who wants to see it? The thing that is really telling to me is that it’s not until we get our first African-American president that the birthers suddenly care about birth certificates and start pretending to be experts on them.

  31. jason330 says:

    They want the Supreme Court to overturn the election and make McCain President. Short of that they want Congress to impeach Obama and install Joe Biden as President. Mostly, they want Ronald Reagan to rise from the grave and Jesus to descend from heaven and be co-Presidents.

  32. Actually, the result of any favorable outcome to such a suit would be to make Joe Biden the President of the United States. That alone is reason enough to beg Obama to produce the original vault copy of his birth certificate for the entire world to see — and to pray that he remains healthy until January 20, 2013.

  33. And jason, may I be quite blunt in saying that you are wrong. Jesus wasn’t a natural born US citizen, so he is ineligible for the office of President..

  34. Dana says:

    Mrs Isotope wrote:

    Do they think anyone should just produce a birth certificate for anyone who wants to see it?

    Well, yes, actually. If you are hired for a job in this country, your employer has to fill out an ICE Form I-9, which certifies your eligibility to work in the United States. One of the possible documents of eligibility could be your birth certificate.

    I had to provide my birth certificate to get my first passport, my daughters had to have their birth certificates to get in the Army; we require that document for all sorts of things.

    The Constitution requires that the President be a natural born citizen, but specifies no enforcement mechanism. In theory, if the Electoral College decided to vote for a 17-year-old Tibetian boy who spoke no English and had never set foot in the US to become our next president, and the Congress concurred, said 17-year-old Tibetian boy would become the next President, and there is no enforcement mechanism to stop it.

    This is a dead-horse topic, but we can still have fun with it.

  35. John Young says:

    Well, I am not a crazy birther at all….but I do believe that any politician running for an office where citizenship is a documented/lawful requirement does have an obligation to produce it/document it. As a school board member in Christina, I had to meet residency requirements for my nominating district. The NCC BOE did not just accept my word, I had to submit a notarized affidavit proclaiming my residency along with my Drivers License.

    So in summary, Barack Obama is a citizen and duly elected President and because he is, he should produce his BC, put it on display at the National Archives and shut the birthers up. My belief that he ought to produce it is in no way connected to a theory that he is not a citizen or an unlawful usurper, just to be amazingly clear on the specific point I am making.

  36. pandora says:

    *sigh* John, he already has.

  37. No, John, it won’t matter. Nothing will shut them up because they are crazy. Anyone who even gives the birthers any credit is feeding the delusions of crazy and violent racists IMO. The birthers have any number of reason why it’s wrong or faked or something. Did you even read nemski’s post? There’s his birth certificate right there. The state of Hawaii, including its Republican governor have also certified to the birth certificate’s authenticity.

    The burden of proof is on the birthers.

    No Dana, you do not have to provide your birth certificate to any freak on the street who wants to see it. You produce it in certain situations, like getting your passport.

  38. John Young says:

    UI, I agree it won’t matter. So no harm in doing it then. You do not have to provide it to any freak on the street either, but to the agency/department that runs the election or the party that nominates candidates to run in that system you do have to provide it. And since he did satisfy them, isn’t it just a super clear path to putting on display as a historical document in plain view so the crazy lady and the rest of the birthers can see how insane they are…in fact, I would love a 24/7 live camera feed of the display with audio to see them get “truthed” as they realize their insane dream of Obama being ineligible is squashed!

  39. John,

    Please read this, this and this.

    No one will ever be able to make the crazies believe the truth. The proper response to them now is laughter and derision. I don’t say this lightly, but these people are beyond reason. I wrote this weekend about how debunking lies actually reinforces the wrong beliefs of certain people.

    Obama’s citizenship has been proved. The burden of proof is on them. Until they come up with some real proof, they should be ignored. Have you read any of the threads populated by the birthers? It doesn’t take very many comments before they are calling for violence and revolution, which is pretty revealing of their true motivations.

  40. rhubard says:

    It’s far more valuable to Democrats and Obama to let the birthers rage.

  41. anon says:

    Considering the lines of succession, maybe the downstate birthers are Joe Biden fans disgruntled over his primary loss.

  42. John Young says:

    I completely agree they are crazy UI, but I do not concur that requiring documentation to prove required status gives them fuel. The truth is the truth. Those that are on the side of truth, simply need to use the mighty tool of transparency to beat the birthers down. Attacking their obvious lack of comprehension isn’t as effective as schooling them. Your links make me think that you think that I think Barack Obama isn’t a citizen. If that is what you think, you couldn’t be more wrong. I am taking a very nuanced approach. I believe calling them crazy isn’t the solution, I believe that repetitively beating them down with proof and truth is. It is a tactical disagreement. The facts of this things are indisputable to me and you and I share the same conclusion on President Obama’s birth.

  43. I think they are beyond help and should be ignored. I also think anyone who is feeding their delusions is playing with fire. The reason I put up those links is because Obama has gone further than anyone else has ever had to prove he’s a citizen. He’s done it. He doesn’t need to do it again. The truth is that every person in the U.S.A. is required to present proof of citizenship with every job they take and Obama has done this numerous times in his life, like all of us. The birthers are just making stuff up and they should not be indulged.

  44. John Young says:

    i hear you and just spin the word indulged differently. My experience is life suggests that taking the issue to them directly and repeatedly just wears then down and out. But when the truth resides to name calling and labeling, we just give rise to them saying “see how disdainful and arrogant the other side is!” I have learned this the hard way being the father of an child with autism: being right doesn’t matter always, and when you are, just ram it down their f’ing throats till it hurts, no name calling, no distractions or BS, just 100% in your face truth. The label they earn will be all the sweetness I need…..

  45. Geezer says:

    “I believe calling them crazy isn’t the solution”

    Solution to what? Their own hatred and ignorance? No “solution” is required. Did you notice that every head visible in that video is covered in gray hair (except for a couple of ladies whose hairdressers know for sure). Time will provide the solution.

  46. John Young says:

    Subtly implying that waiting for them to die is just not a positive contribution to the discourse in my opinion. The problem that I am saying there may be a solution to is the radicalization of both sides by both sides. I know it isn’t a likely outcome. But to me, it is much more fun to bludgeon my opponent with truth and facts more that calling them 21% ers or wingnuts. Not that anyone else couldn’t or shouldn’t enjoy doing that in a free country, just not my style. The birthers lose at every turn on this thing and they don’t need to die, they need to live and be confronted by the absolute truth of it every day.

  47. Geezer says:

    My point is you can’t change their minds. Why engage them at all when it’s a political advantage to let them vent?

    PS: I wasn’t “subtly” suggesting the problem will end when they die. Subtle isn’t my style.

  48. John Young says:

    agree about not engaging, but if they confront the rebuttal is just plain ol’ truthiness!

  49. short stuff says:

    Let’s just call it for what it is. The reason why this keeps coming up unfortunately is the fact that this country is still polluted with a lot of bigots and racists and they just cannot believe that the vast majority of people (as evidence of the election) no longer abides by the “whites only” motto. I used to try to educate people on subtle differences specifically when folks would think I was “white” on the phone until they met me and realized my name isn’t spelled “George” but the other way. You can’t change people. People will change when they want to change. Providing his bc does nothing but perpetuate the argument that it’s some sort of elicit plan that all the colored people are scheming to take over the world…

    Man, I can’t wait to see what happens when an “asian looking” or of asian heritage candidate is on the ticket… Communist? Just take a look back a few years and search for internment camps and find out what the reason was for that. If you miss my point on what this has to do with BHO’s bc then you’re lost and are hopeless anyway.

    But I digress, if you’re a racist, call it like you see it and quit hiding behind the veil of “truth” and the monicker of “American”.

  50. anon says:

    these rascists dont die? They raise their young with rascism overt and covert. I am told the KKK still meets in Sussex, and that the biggest most wealthy farmers and some big attornies go to those “secret” meetings? There minds are gone perhaps from the power plant spewing lead making them retarded?

  51. John,

    I certainly agree with using facts. My point is that these people are fact-immune and it’s really a waste of my time to rebut all their crazy arguments.

  52. jason330 says:

    Is the crazy birther lady from Maryland? If so I owe Jefferson Dayton an apology.

  53. short stuff says:

    these rascists dont die? They raise their young with rascism overt and covert. I am told the KKK still meets in Sussex, and that the biggest most wealthy farmers and some big attornies go to those “secret” meetings? There minds are gone perhaps from the power plant spewing lead making them retarded?

    It’s apparent that your kid has never been called a racially derogatory name based on the fact that you don’t believe people are raising their kids to be exactly like they are. My kids are 11 and 10. I’ve had people yell out racist remarks while I’m mowing the lawn, riding my bike, walking the dog. It was probably the BHO kool aid that I was drinking that made me hallucinate that and it was probably the same thing with my girlfriend who finally saw it with her own blue eyes how some people are. But you’re right… It doesn’t exist. The holocaust didn’t happen either…

  54. Oddly enough, I’ve been called racially derogatory names as well — but as a white guy who was on the receiving end of the slurs from members of racial minority groups (who are now the majority in my state), I’ve been told I deserve it and have to understand the racists flinging the slur my direction.

  55. short stuff says:

    “Oddly enough, I’ve been called racially derogatory names as well — but as a white guy who was on the receiving end of the slurs from members of racial minority groups (who are now the majority in my state), I’ve been told I deserve it and have to understand the racists flinging the slur my direction.”

    That’s pretty sad for you Rhymes with Right. There is no excuse for it regardless of what color or race. ~Unfortunately, you do have to understand that we’ve tolerated it for years, generations. This isn’t an excuse, it’s a matter of conditioning. If you keep beating a dog, the dog will eventually bite. It may be the person beating it but often times than not, it’s someone innocent…

    One more thing, it’s also one thing to be doing it while an adult… When kids do it, they only get it from one source… Their parents…

  56. anonone says:

    Oddly enough…

    Hardly.

  57. LOL, RwR. Being white and getting called a cracker is the same as being Mexican and being called a wet back? The historic difference is that white racists were/are in power when they spew their racists slurs.

    While I’ve been called a cracker by my African Americans, is wasn’t my boss or a cop doing it.

    Your peonic thought that you’ve been harmed as much as by racism as short stuff has been and will be is absolutely nutty.

  58. nemski,

    You know conservatives are always the victims, always. Just look at their hysterical reaction to Sotomayor for daring to say perhaps a Latina judge could make a better decision than someone else. How dare she!

  59. Like I said — as a white guy, I’m told to “understand” their racism and accept it as my just punishment for being white because I’m obviously not harmed sufficiently by it.

    I guess some racism is sufficiently “politically correct” that you are willing to say it is acceptable. Shocking — and frighteningly hypocritical from supposedly “progressive” individuals who claim to be opponents of racism. Seems to me that Kluxerism remains alive and well among you Democrats.

  60. xstryker says:

    Like I said — as a white guy, I’m told to “understand” their racism and accept it as my just punishment for being white because I’m obviously not harmed sufficiently by it.

    “Their racism” – love it, just love to see our wingnuts projecting. It is beyond awesome to see racists cry “racism” over comments that were aimed against racism. Whoops, missed the context of RWR’s remark. No, RWR, when actual racist comments are made, you get to call them out no matter what your race is. I thought you were talking about the “wise Latina” remark, which some not-so-wise white folks have twisted around, making false cries of racism.

  61. I love the fact that this guy is the base of the GOP

  62. Thanks, stryker.

    But am I to suppose that you would not take offense or argue I was a racist if I said that I believe a wise white man would more often than not come to better decisions than a wise Latina woman, and would claim that anyone who did claim it was racist would have twisted it and made false cries of racism?