Name Calling
June 29th, 2009 • Related • Filed Under
By nemski
Remember when the Republican National Committe was debating on whether or not to change the name of the Democratic Party?
In that vein, we should decide what to call conservatives because we all know they are anything by conservative.
My two favorites are:
- The Radical Right
- Christian Theocracists
Do you have ideas?
Comment by Delaware Dem on 29 June 2009 at 1:36 pm:
Well, we already call them the radical right. And I prefer not to use the adjective”Christian” in connection to them since they are far from Jesus’ teachings in nearly every way.
Comment by anon on 29 June 2009 at 1:54 pm:
Well, they did pretty well for 30 years by calling us “liberals” and “extreme left.”
So I expect we can do pretty well simply calling them “conservatives” and “extreme right.” No need to make anything up, just call them what they are and they will add their own tarnish to the name.
Comment by Perry on 29 June 2009 at 1:58 pm:
Modern republicans are not classical conservatives, rather they are neoconservatives. So that is what we should be call them, and what they should in truth call themselves.
Comment by nemski on 29 June 2009 at 2:00 pm:
Perry, how would you suggest that we lump in the social conservatives? This confuses me.
Comment by liberalgeek on 29 June 2009 at 2:16 pm:
The Hypocrite Party
or
The Willfully Ignorant Party
or
The Unicorn Party
Comment by Perry on 29 June 2009 at 2:17 pm:
Christian Neoconservative Party, otherwise known as the CNP. Sounds to me like something out of the old Soviet Union.
The problem with that is obviously not all of the neocons are Christian.
I still like the Neoconservative Party, since if is descriptive of their ideology, distinct from the Republican Party, which has lost all affinity to the party of Lincoln.
Comment by anon on 29 June 2009 at 2:20 pm:
For the social conservatives, actually we figured this out 300 years ago; they are Puritans.
The Puritans never did figure out how to get along with the wealthy merchants.
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Comment by MJ on 29 June 2009 at 2:26 pm:
Why don’t we just call them adulterers and fools.
Comment by delacrat on 29 June 2009 at 2:29 pm:
perry @ 6
Christian Neoconservative Party, otherwise known as the CNP. Sounds to me like something out of the old Soviet Union.
You’re getting close. How’s this for something out of the old Soviet Union:
The Christian Peoples Republican Party
Comment by Unstable Isotope on 29 June 2009 at 2:39 pm:
No, the Republican Christian People’s Party (that likes to blow things up).
Comment by RSmitty on 29 June 2009 at 2:50 pm:
(the) “GORP” – (the) Grand Ol’ Rush Party
Comment by nemski on 29 June 2009 at 2:51 pm:
RSmitty, you need to change ur alias to iSmitty.
Comment by RSmitty on 29 June 2009 at 2:54 pm:
Except the ‘R’ is an actual initial, not a party, plus, if I were to say ‘ISmitty,’ I’d feel all TRONish and would have to dress up in a metallic suit with neon blue lines throughout.
Comment by nemski on 29 June 2009 at 2:55 pm:
I’ve got it . . . Christian Republicans of America Party.
Comment by nemski on 29 June 2009 at 2:56 pm:
And members would be called Crappers.
Comment by Republican David on 29 June 2009 at 3:00 pm:
Guardians of the American Way.
Comment by anon on 29 June 2009 at 3:03 pm:
Guardians of the American Way
Would there be a special uniform with lots of tassels?
Comment by Joanne Christian on 29 June 2009 at 3:19 pm:
Just call me a Taxpayer, and call it a day.
Comment by Dorian Gray on 29 June 2009 at 3:24 pm:
Guardians of the American Way, huh. Like traditionalists… slavery, misogyny, segregation, like that? Ya know “strict constitutional constructionists”. The stuff that was there originally…
How about the Alchemy Party… bright ideas for the 17th century!
Comment by nemski on 29 June 2009 at 3:29 pm:
I don’t know Dorian, alchemy . . . that shows a modicum of interest in science.
Comment by Dorian Gray on 29 June 2009 at 3:48 pm:
Maybe when Newton was doing it it did. Today it is indicative of a moron who continues to use and outdated, debunked way of thinking.
Comment by xstryker on 29 June 2009 at 3:50 pm:
Nemski, I think you nailed it with “Theocracists”. I think adding the word “National” to the mix would help.
Comment by Unstable Isotope on 29 June 2009 at 4:35 pm:
Heh heh DG. They’re building a bridge to the 17th Century.
Comment by Rhymes With Right on 29 June 2009 at 5:24 pm:
The Party That Freed The Slaves From Their Democrat Owners
Comment by Delaware Republican on 29 June 2009 at 5:29 pm:
Sorry, but it doesn’t matter what you call a party, it is what they do and stand for.
The Dems are for taxes on working families, taxes on investment, larger more ineffective government, huge deficits and weak foreign policy.
The party of race car driver Ted Kennedy, cigar smoker Bill Clinton, family advocate John Edwards and Financial whiz William Jefferson.
The last thing we need are unprincipled liberals giving any advice on anything.
Mike Protack
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Comment by Art Downs on 29 June 2009 at 6:23 pm:
Modern republicans are not classical conservatives, rather they are neoconservatives.erry: Modern republicans are not classical conservatives, rather they are neoconservatives.-Perry
That statement indicates a gross ignorance of contemporary politics. The gratuitous use of the ‘neocon’ term shows about the same level of intellect as the use of the ‘m-f’ vulagarity as a universal insult.
A neconservative is a reformed Liberal who saw the light. Some retained some cultural and even economic liberal views but switched on the basis of a strong issue.
This phenomenon was first noted in the early 1940s when many became disgusted with the excesses of Stalinism (especially after the Molotov-VonRibbentrop Pact) and abandonded The Party.
Conservative Democrats did not have to make any great switch when they obliged FDR to give the bum’s rush to Wallace.
The term did not come into general use until the Reagan Adminstration when people such as Jean Kirkpatrick came in from the cold. The term was used in a negative sense by long-term conservatives who feared that the newcomers would take over the Party.
David Horowitz was an example of s strong shift. He was more of a ‘Red Diaper Baby’ than Daviud Axelrod but there came a time when he could not ignore the ugly truth about some of his vicious associates (such as Huey Newton).
Comment by Perry on 29 June 2009 at 6:48 pm:
The roots of neoconservatism, which actually have ties to the Zionist movement, do not describe most of the diehards who deserve the current moniker. These are for sure card carrying Republicans. The party really does deserve to be renamed to be more consistent with current ideological reality.
Calling themselves the GOP is definitely another misnomer, as they are now unrelated to their roots.
The Neoconservative Party, or Christian Neoconservative Party — Either, yes!
Comment by Von Cracker on 29 June 2009 at 7:33 pm:
Dead Man’s Party.
Leave your body and mind at the door…
But really call them what they are regionally, socially, and fiscally….Dixiecrats.
Comment by Rhymes With Right on 29 June 2009 at 7:38 pm:
Once again we see that Perry is among those who defines neocon as “effing Jews and effing Jew-lovers”.
Comment by Unstable Isotope on 29 June 2009 at 7:48 pm:
RwR, fiction writer. Perry said no such thing, and what you wrote was quite slanderous.
Comment by callerRick on 29 June 2009 at 9:01 pm:
“Conservative” does not describe a political party. It is a philosophy. Edmund Burke was a conservative. In more modern times, Russell Kirk was an important contributor. Rarely are politicians anything more than on the periphery, although Reagan was a conservative.
I think Perry is fixated on Strauss and his gang of heretics.
Comment by MJ on 29 June 2009 at 9:53 pm:
Nemski@14 – well, they already have Sen. Crapo from Idaho.
Comment by MJ on 29 June 2009 at 9:55 pm:
Repub David – Shouldn’t that be Guardians of the American Yay?
Comment by jason330 on 29 June 2009 at 10:56 pm:
Reagan was a conservative.
Cuz…it is “conservative” to run up record levels of national debt I suppose.
Comment by nemski on 29 June 2009 at 11:03 pm:
Reagan was a conservative.
Cuz… it is “conservative” to grow the federal gov’t to all time highs I suppose.
Comment by xstryker on 30 June 2009 at 1:02 am:
And Then Won Over Dixiecrats By Becoming As Racist As Possible.
Comment by RSmitty(I-R) on 30 June 2009 at 8:07 am:
Dead Man’s Party
May Oingo Boingo defecate on you for tarnishing their song.
Comment by Joanne Christian on 30 June 2009 at 8:12 am:
Let me think this through…..Ummm…Lincoln…Last Frontier…Lost Frontier…yeh..the Lost Frontier Party.
And Smitty, you can too change from RSmitty to ISmitty, because MeJoanne
…..
Comment by RSmitty(I-R) on 30 June 2009 at 8:18 am:
Dang. At first I thought you were giving me a hidden clue, but now I get it, it’s all about the pronouns!
Comment by Joanne Christian on 30 June 2009 at 8:24 am:
Geez Smitty, the way you sign in now I’m thinking you represent Indian River!
Comment by RSmitty(I/R) on 30 June 2009 at 8:31 am:
Indian River, eh? A pox on you!!!
Comment by nemski on 30 June 2009 at 8:48 am:
Infra-Red?
Comment by Dana on 30 June 2009 at 9:59 am:
Simple: The Common Sense Party. We have it, and y’all don’t.
Comment by Dana on 30 June 2009 at 10:00 am:
By the way, despite Perry’s suggestion of Neoconservative Party, that really doesn’t work well. The neocons are mostly social moderates.
Comment by RSmitty(I/R) on 30 June 2009 at 10:10 am:
The neocons are mostly social moderates.
PUKE! Dost thou pedestal thyself much?
“NEOcon” term came about from the Gingrich takeover of the party and specifically referred to the style he thrust upon the party. Yes, it was 15+ years ago, but that is the label. Wear it well, Dana. It’s yours.
Of course, if you would like to go ahead and disavow that people like Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Ike Eisenhower, etc. were ever part of the party, be my guest.
Comment by Rhymes With Right on 30 June 2009 at 10:16 am:
Given my past dealings with Perry, I stand by my assertion about his definition of neocon. Indeed, it is a definition shared by way too many liberals.
Comment by farsider on 30 June 2009 at 12:05 pm:
This is just too simple:
Conservative: The Right
Liberal: The Wrong
There that was easy.