I think you need to re-read what I stated before if you think that 60% of tax revenue comes from earners making slightly more than 250K, for they are the ones who, most likely, will try to keep under the income subjected to the highest marginal tax rate. Not folks making 300K, there’s more money to be had in making the 300K than stopping short, after all is said and done.

Nice try at twisting the words so you could go on with your rant.

A couple other things:

I really don’t know how you could “notice” how I could do “whatever”, unless you’re the all-seeing eye! LOL!

There is nothing in the proposed tax structure, as of yet, referencing a decrease in deductions (banter, mostly), and the increase of FICA (raise SS cap and Medicare rate increase) is supposedly off-set small-biz tax credits and by the lessening of Health Care costs on businesses and individuals.

And, finally, your reliance on hyperbole is telling; it gives an impression of doubt in one’s argument.

One more thing:

If you think this is some sort of Robin Hood scheme, then let’s talk about the loopholes the highest earners have had at their disposal for years now….

A state or municipality has no money for first-responders? Why? Well, one factor could be due to the loss of revenue from high-income earners being paid in stocks and dividends, which is taxed at 15%, instead of the normal income rate of 32%?

There’s more, obviously, but if what above doesn’t say it all, then why go on?

Yeah, that population is so minimal (paying 60% of US income taxes).

Has it never occurred to you that people will get tired of this endless sense of entitlement? Have you ever actually read ANYTHING expressing the sentiments of Those About To Be Soaked?

It’s not just 4.5%, dude. It’s a huge decrease in deductions as well, plus a huge rise in FICA. It may well amount to a 30% increase, from that liar who said he would not increase taxes.

You know, Von Cracker, through all your tirades, I don’t notice YOU as willing to pay for his crap. Your entire “argument,” silly as it is, amounts to telling everyone that “THEY won’t mind paying for this crap.”

Good luck with that.

That’s where Rush Limbaugh and I disagree. Rushie wants a lot of attention, so he says “I WANT OBAMA TO FAIL.”

Not me. I just look at what Obama wants to do, and I say to myself, “That’s never going to work.” Translated into English: I don’t have to want anything. I don’t have to NOT want anything. These policies are going to fail.

On the positive side: you must be aware that many economists think and say that government should do NOTHING about the recession — they should let the fever worsen and take out all the rot — and then the recovery will be genuine.

President Obama has actually managed to do this! His “stimulus bill” is nothing of the sort, and so he actually managed to do the “right thing” through stupidity, and corruption.

Get ready for more. We have four more years of “Gee, this is my first real job” Obama to go.

Asked and answered, again.

It’s not as though I were preaching “The Rapture” here. I have economics on my side, and you have…well, you have rudeness.

Yes, economics. Read “Basic Economics” by Thomas Sowell.

Raise your hands, all who have done so!

Suspected as much.

Lo siento, amigo…you’ll have to play your game of non-plausible hypotheticals somewhere else.”

There you go again: “Shut up and go away.”

What “position” is “irrational?”

You know, like put up or shut up.

Lo siento, amigo…you’ll have to play your game of non-plausible hypotheticals somewhere else.

Well, yes, llz, you have actually understood me. I do not think that there should be two classes of Americans, the CLASS A and the CLASS B. But I think I said that quite a while ago.

However, you are completely free to go on thinking that this is perfectly fair, and perfectly just — that some people (CLASS A) get their health insurance for “free” (note those quotations marks!), while some other people (CLASS B) have to pay for their own health insurance with aftertax dollars.

Of course, there are always the CLASS C people, who put money in the bank against a rainy day, or a health emergency. But we are not talking about them, are we? We’re only talking about the relative advantages of various social parasites.

Is this your idea of rational discussion?

“And if your boy can accomplish everything all by himself then the “fruits” are all his.”

“My boy?” Get serious here. I do not even know the real name of this person. That’s because he values his privacy above all else. And one reason he values it (and has been doing so for years) is that he will probably make the A-list of “Country X’s Youngest Millionaires.” That could destroy his private life (what little of it there is), and he does not want that to happen.

Am I mistaken in detecting some whiffs of homophobia here?

Gosh, you leftists are such great guys. You reduce every single rational argument to simple ad hominem attacks. And you also tell people to shut the fuck up and go away.

What a prize group you are.

llz, you seem to think that operating a business for a profit is evil.

I think you need to grow up.

Any business that operates without profits goes bankrupt and disappears.

The most widely known alternative, of course, is for big businesses to be owned by the government, and operate at a loss, which of course we all *cheerfully* pay as slaves of the Nanny State.

If I’m wrong, you can just submit your plan to operate a non-profit restaurant. Or gas station. Or computer software company.

Grow up and get used to the truth! Businesses MUST make a profit, or they go bankrupt.

(Sorry.) DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH

If not, well, it’s pay to play baby.

LOL!

All those who have worked this hard, raise your hands.

How does anyone have a right to the fruits of this man’s labor?

Anyway, the following is not something I wrote. The author is not yet 25. But it is a general reply to all those who think that people earning “too much” should automatically (and happily) fork it over to the parasites and looters.

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As a business owner I feel especially strong about unions telling me what I can and can’t do… other than to abide by the law (as everyone should). I create jobs. I work hard to grow my business, so as a by product, I create even more jobs. And not just any kind of job. High-paying, high skilled, professional jobs in, which employees (obviously not all) earn 6-figure incomes. This is what makes the world go round. It’s what keeps the economy afloat.

And if I make 10 times what the average wage-earner makes… I think it’s fair. The hard work, energy and innovation I put in is huge… so are the risks I take.. Sometimes I wonder how much easier it would be just to walk into a business, accept a fixed salary and work 8-6 and enjoy my weekends.

People who work bloody hard to sustain and grow profitable businesses, supply services and keep people profitably employed make a massive difference to minimize the downturn. Unions don’t. I also supply services, which enable other businesses to market themselves better, increase profitability and retain or increase employees.

I think if a union official ever came into my office and started making demands, I’d be tempted to say, “ok, fine. You’re a dickhead but I’ve made enough money. I’m shutting down and liquidating the company and you can all go find a job elsewhere.” It wouldn’t be such a bad thing. There’s so much operating capital in the business entity I would be walking away with a massive chunk of cash. I’d also make a windfall selling my clients…. or accepting ongoing commissions from other agencies for passing them over. But employees would be without their jobs.
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Um, this could be a case right out of “Atlas Shrugged.”

But, so far as I can tell, the looters here only care about making their point that “the rich don’t deserve to be rich.”

That is several light-years away from proving that YOU have a right to it.

All those on this forum who own successful businessed, raise your hands.

Ah, I thought so!

Absolute proof she was not only in bed with big insurance companies ( those visits to NYC, her campaign trough filling up quickly from them, well the big payoff is now being considered.

Seems Stewart wants to change a law which states that “insurance companies must have the funds in their accounts to back up all those policy payoffs”. Weldin Stewarts brainfart will change all that. Her new decree will permit insurance saleman and corporations to sell and sell as many policies as possible, and not be REQUIRED to have the funds in their treasury to pay off claims”! Its a Countrywide (housing) scam that must be stopped right now. If Delaware the corporate state does this, how long will it take to go nationwide. These insurance companies are so smart and Stewart too dumb she know how they used her.

You can email an attorney mitch.craine@state.de.us, and tell him how wrong this ridiculous and stupid decree would really affect all Delawareans. Didnt take Weldin Stewart long to give the biggest insurance companies the pay off, while screwing the Delaware citizens. Nice going Karen!