This is fixed!! Queen is “too late” to be considered best classic rock!! I don’t even think Q102 played it back in the day…but I’m sure WAMS did. Nancy?
I heard from someone in the business (no, not DTR) many years ago, about a couple years after 98.1 switched formats into WOGL (?), that “oldies” (I think all you fogies are confusing classic with oldies) considers music at LEAST 20 years old. From what I understand that is still the industry standard: 20 years +.
Yes, that means that Bohemian Rhapsody qualifies. It also means that most of the PALATABLE Aerosmith library qualifies. It also means that the breakout-era of grunge qualifies in a few, short years. GASP!
No, Bohemian Rhapsody was too damned easy. Early on, I went for the underdog and supported FREEDOM ROCK, er, I mean Skynyrd’s “Free Bird.” Once the bird flew, I then went for my personal favorite, John Entwistle (I am a base junkie), er I mean The Who.
I think if the next go-around opens it up to best classic-rock bands, Queen won’t even make it to the finals. Although, I dispute Matthews’ criticism of them being overrated…to a point. Their early years were great. I think their attempts to morph into 80’s mainstream instead of sticking to what they knew is what killed them.
I too was voting for The Who – Smitty I’m way with you on Entwistle and the bass.
There’s a video on YouTube of “Won’t Get Fooled Again” with the bass track isolated – it’s even more impressive when you can hear precisely what he’s playing. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfDE-ZvfOwU)
I’m sorry-but when I think of Queen, I think of every kid’s little league team jumping up and down, after winning a game. A happy thought yes, but CLASSIC ROCK?
I’ll have to check that vid out at home, much later. Can’t do much vid watching here at work and I consider that a good thing for me!
I can’t believe I misspelled bass. That is a sacrilege in my world.
I think Queen became bigger than rock itself for a moment during Live Aid.
Their final Wembley full-concert (shortly thereafter) was iconic, as well. Although Freddie Mercury waited until his final days to admit he had late-term AIDS (thanks to the gossip rags that basically forced him into admitting it), I believe that by the time that final concert happened, there was an understanding among many that was the end of them as a complete band. It simply added to the spectacular performance that it was.
Shoot, Johnny, since we’re talking about appreciating great bass (that’s great bass!…a classic Saturday Night Live reference to the Bass-o-matic 2000), may as well do that list, too! I’ll cap it at a top-two: Entwistle and Chris Squire (Yes).
I’ve been to see both Queen (w/ Freddie) and the Who (w/o Keith Moon) TWICE each and have owned albums from them both for ever and still think “Won’t Get Fooled Again” is the best.
You know what they say about opinions…..
Entwistle was easily my jr high/high idol (as in school, not recreational activities…OK, fine, both). Overlooked, though, partially I think because of the concurrent existence of Entwistle, is Chris Squire of Yes. I have YesSongs, a live double-CD set from the 70’s that is classic-Yes. On it, if you listen carefully enough, you can hear Squire riffing off an Entwistle track. It’s a jam-session within Perpetual Change (I think) and he riffs the bass lines from Sparks (from Tommy).
How about Squire’s lead-ins for Heart of the Sunrise, particularly live versions? I’ve tried to pull that one off before and managed to tangle (firguratively, of course) my fingers while trying to keep up the pace!
I had front row seats for the Yes In the Round Philley Concert
So did I (not front row), but that was for the tour that they mixed the new with the old members…heh…that could have been any year! It was, I think, around 1991 or something on the UNION tour. It was the mid-late 80’s line up, plus Bruford, Howe and Wakeman (who totally crushes Tony Kaye – an original, I know – and his toy Casio).
Psst… also saw Genesis with Gabriel. U2 at the Tower Theater, and Squeeze opening for Costello at the Tower, as well. Toss in King Crimson, Lori Anderson, Talking Heads, and Randy Newman! Gee, I’m feeling better about my age!
This is what I meant about us going on for hours. There will always be someone left out.
Les Claypool was freaking awesome (I think he still is, too). My name is MUD…
Roger Waters was decent, but the man’s a tool, so that hurts his value a bit in my eyes. John Paul Jones…complete oversight on my part…and it goes on and on…
I still want to know if that concert Pandora saw was the Buggle…I mean the Horn/Downes version of Yes.
I honestly long for a reunion of them with Gabriel and Hackett…a real one, not this one and done set of three songs crap. It’ll never happen, unless they become broke, but it’s one of my desires that carried over from youth.
I started with Foghat, Boston, James Gang, followed by Thin Lizzy and Queen at the old Philly Civic Center, then back to the Spectrum for Boston as the headliner and I was hooked. Over the next six or seven years came Petty & Rush and Elvis & Squeeze both at the Tower, Supertramp and Moody Blues at the Spectrum and Genesis and the Stones at JFK just to name a few. Bowie three times, Elvis three times, the Who twice, Petty, Joel, Foreigner, Elton, Black Sabbath, Van Halen, the Police… I just couldn’t stop…. Then I ran off and got married and things have been the same since….Women!!
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Comment by Joanne Christian on 4 December 2008 at 10:07 pm:
This is fixed!! Queen is “too late” to be considered best classic rock!! I don’t even think Q102 played it back in the day…but I’m sure WAMS did. Nancy?
Comment by jason330 on 4 December 2008 at 10:11 pm:
All of my votes were for “Takin Care of Business.”
Comment by pandora on 4 December 2008 at 10:11 pm:
I’m with you, Joanne. Lot of youngsters around here. I love Queen, but… classic rock?
Comment by Unstable Isotope on 4 December 2008 at 10:13 pm:
Good choice but I voted for (I can’t get no) Satisfaction.
Comment by Brian Shields on 4 December 2008 at 10:15 pm:
Hot damn!
Shoot, Aerosmith is considered classic rock now.
Comment by Von Cracker on 4 December 2008 at 11:05 pm:
Hell, I heard Bon Jovi on 102.9FM; so I guess everyone’s definition of classic rock differs.
Anyway, we all know that Wish You Were Here is the best classic rock song ever!
Comment by Mike Matthews on 4 December 2008 at 11:45 pm:
Blech…awful song, overrated band.
Comment by Rebecca on 5 December 2008 at 7:04 am:
Love Queen but they don’t qualify as classic.
Where is Chuck Berry? Now that is classic rock and roll. Johnny B. Good! Or Elvis’ Hard Hearted Woman, Soft Headed Man.
OMG I am old.
Comment by Joanne Christian on 5 December 2008 at 8:10 am:
Rebecca-You’re not old-you’re classic.
Comment by RSmitty on 5 December 2008 at 8:34 am:
I heard from someone in the business (no, not DTR) many years ago, about a couple years after 98.1 switched formats into WOGL (?), that “oldies” (I think all you fogies are confusing classic with oldies) considers music at LEAST 20 years old. From what I understand that is still the industry standard: 20 years +.
Yes, that means that Bohemian Rhapsody qualifies. It also means that most of the PALATABLE Aerosmith library qualifies. It also means that the breakout-era of grunge qualifies in a few, short years. GASP!
Comment by Joanne Christian on 5 December 2008 at 8:37 am:
Same as a car huh? So Smitty-did you help stuff that ballot box?
Comment by RSmitty on 5 December 2008 at 8:41 am:
No, Bohemian Rhapsody was too damned easy. Early on, I went for the underdog and supported FREEDOM ROCK, er, I mean Skynyrd’s “Free Bird.” Once the bird flew, I then went for my personal favorite, John Entwistle (I am a base junkie), er I mean The Who.
I think if the next go-around opens it up to best classic-rock bands, Queen won’t even make it to the finals. Although, I dispute Matthews’ criticism of them being overrated…to a point. Their early years were great. I think their attempts to morph into 80’s mainstream instead of sticking to what they knew is what killed them.
Comment by jason330 on 5 December 2008 at 8:47 am:
I didn’t vote for that song once during the trials, but I know why many did.
I think Queen became bigger than rock itself for a moment during Live Aid.
That performance put then in a whole different category.
Comment by JohnnyX on 5 December 2008 at 8:54 am:
I too was voting for The Who – Smitty I’m way with you on Entwistle and the bass.
There’s a video on YouTube of “Won’t Get Fooled Again” with the bass track isolated – it’s even more impressive when you can hear precisely what he’s playing. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfDE-ZvfOwU)
Comment by Joanne Christian on 5 December 2008 at 9:04 am:
I’m sorry-but when I think of Queen, I think of every kid’s little league team jumping up and down, after winning a game. A happy thought yes, but CLASSIC ROCK?
Comment by RSmitty on 5 December 2008 at 9:04 am:
I’ll have to check that vid out at home, much later. Can’t do much vid watching here at work and I consider that a good thing for me!
I can’t believe I misspelled bass. That is a sacrilege in my world.
I think Queen became bigger than rock itself for a moment during Live Aid.
Their final Wembley full-concert (shortly thereafter) was iconic, as well. Although Freddie Mercury waited until his final days to admit he had late-term AIDS (thanks to the gossip rags that basically forced him into admitting it), I believe that by the time that final concert happened, there was an understanding among many that was the end of them as a complete band. It simply added to the spectacular performance that it was.
Comment by RSmitty on 5 December 2008 at 9:07 am:
Shoot, Johnny, since we’re talking about appreciating great bass (that’s great bass!…a classic Saturday Night Live reference to the Bass-o-matic 2000), may as well do that list, too! I’ll cap it at a top-two: Entwistle and Chris Squire (Yes).
Comment by Bill Dunn on 5 December 2008 at 9:31 am:
I’ve been to see both Queen (w/ Freddie) and the Who (w/o Keith Moon) TWICE each and have owned albums from them both for ever and still think “Won’t Get Fooled Again” is the best.
You know what they say about opinions…..
Comment by RSmitty on 5 December 2008 at 9:49 am:
Yes, that your’s (Bill) is correct!!!
Comment by Von Cracker on 5 December 2008 at 10:17 am:
Entwistle might have been the best bassist of his time….revolutionary even…
Given the limited choices, I chose Won’t Get Fooled Again….great song…overused on TV these days, but still holds up.
Comment by RSmitty on 5 December 2008 at 10:41 am:
Entwistle was easily my jr high/high idol (as in school, not recreational activities…OK, fine, both). Overlooked, though, partially I think because of the concurrent existence of Entwistle, is Chris Squire of Yes. I have YesSongs, a live double-CD set from the 70’s that is classic-Yes. On it, if you listen carefully enough, you can hear Squire riffing off an Entwistle track. It’s a jam-session within Perpetual Change (I think) and he riffs the bass lines from Sparks (from Tommy).
Comment by Von Cracker on 5 December 2008 at 11:21 am:
Squire is badass too! Completely forgot about him….Now I have the bass line of “Yours Is No Disgrace” in me head….thanks alot!
Comment by pandora on 5 December 2008 at 11:28 am:
At the risk of showing my age… I had front row seats for the Yes In the Round Philley Concert. Ha! Even at that young age my music was progressive!
Comment by RSmitty on 5 December 2008 at 11:30 am:
How about Squire’s lead-ins for Heart of the Sunrise, particularly live versions? I’ve tried to pull that one off before and managed to tangle (firguratively, of course) my fingers while trying to keep up the pace!
Comment by Von Cracker on 5 December 2008 at 11:40 am:
Stop it!!
Yes was always a guilty pleasure to me…like most opera (progressive) rock. Styx, Queen, ELO would fall into the category too.
But what’s in the head right now is Cream’s “Badge” and Jack Bruce.
That’s the classic rock I heard as a child…thanks to my youngish parents and uncles.
Comment by RSmitty on 5 December 2008 at 11:42 am:
I had front row seats for the Yes In the Round Philley Concert
So did I (not front row), but that was for the tour that they mixed the new with the old members…heh…that could have been any year! It was, I think, around 1991 or something on the UNION tour. It was the mid-late 80’s line up, plus Bruford, Howe and Wakeman (who totally crushes Tony Kaye – an original, I know – and his toy Casio).
Comment by pandora on 5 December 2008 at 11:43 am:
Could someone tell me why Lou Reed wasn’t up for a vote???
Comment by RSmitty on 5 December 2008 at 11:43 am:
Sheesh…Jack Bruce! Of course! Now I have the “Badge” bass line in my head, too. Then to Crossroads. Sunshine of Your Love…
Ungh. I think we could go for hours on this.
Comment by pandora on 5 December 2008 at 11:45 am:
Nope, Smitty. I saw them in 1979 – 80 – can’t remember the exact month.
Comment by Von Cracker on 5 December 2008 at 11:46 am:
It’s hypnotic….sorry!
Comment by RSmitty on 5 December 2008 at 11:47 am:
I saw them in 1979 – 80 -
GASP! Tell me that wasn’t the Geoff Downes and Trevor Horn version! (I am a camera, cam-er-a…)
For the love of all things Buggles!
Comment by Von Cracker on 5 December 2008 at 11:49 am:
Lou Reed plays bass?
Current guys, I nominate Flea, Tim Commerford (RATM), and the dude from Primus…
Comment by pandora on 5 December 2008 at 11:50 am:
Nope! Anderson, Howe, Squire…
Right before the trainwreck that was Horn.
Psst… also saw Genesis with Gabriel. U2 at the Tower Theater, and Squeeze opening for Costello at the Tower, as well. Toss in King Crimson, Lori Anderson, Talking Heads, and Randy Newman! Gee, I’m feeling better about my age!
Comment by RSmitty on 5 December 2008 at 11:51 am:
dude from Primus…
Les Claypool?
This is what I meant about us going on for hours. There will always be someone left out.
Les Claypool was freaking awesome (I think he still is, too).
My name is MUD…
Roger Waters was decent, but the man’s a tool, so that hurts his value a bit in my eyes. John Paul Jones…complete oversight on my part…and it goes on and on…
I still want to know if that concert Pandora saw was the Buggle…I mean the Horn/Downes version of Yes.Comment by RSmitty on 5 December 2008 at 11:53 am:
Psst… also saw Genesis with Gabriel
I honestly long for a reunion of them with Gabriel and Hackett…a real one, not this one and done set of three songs crap. It’ll never happen, unless they become broke, but it’s one of my desires that carried over from youth.
Comment by Von Cracker on 5 December 2008 at 11:56 am:
You’re right….on and on…
I’ll make the effort to stop now!
And you’re right….Claypool and Primus….Wynona’s Big Brown B*!
Comment by Rod on 5 December 2008 at 12:11 pm:
I saw the Rolling Stones at the Spectrum in the early 70’s when I was a wee lad but Queen is much better and I’m glad Bohemian Rhapsody won.
Comment by Joanne Christian on 5 December 2008 at 1:34 pm:
Foghat!
Comment by anon on 5 December 2008 at 1:48 pm:
I had front row seats for the Yes In the Round Philley Concert.
Hey, I was there too, also pretty close to the front row! … also, I saw Peter Gabriel at one of his first solo shows at Tower Theater.
But you weren’t a real progressive fan unless you were at the free “UK” concert at Penns Landing (yes I was there too).
Comment by pandora on 5 December 2008 at 2:05 pm:
Missed that one, anon. I was GROUNDED!
Comment by Bill Dunn on 5 December 2008 at 7:57 pm:
I started with Foghat, Boston, James Gang, followed by Thin Lizzy and Queen at the old Philly Civic Center, then back to the Spectrum for Boston as the headliner and I was hooked. Over the next six or seven years came Petty & Rush and Elvis & Squeeze both at the Tower, Supertramp and Moody Blues at the Spectrum and Genesis and the Stones at JFK just to name a few. Bowie three times, Elvis three times, the Who twice, Petty, Joel, Foreigner, Elton, Black Sabbath, Van Halen, the Police… I just couldn’t stop…. Then I ran off and got married and things have been the same since….Women!!