Very odd, Andrew Sullivan has a request…
Births At Mat-Su Medical Center In April 2008
Here they are listed on the hospital’s website. Trig Palin, who was born there, Sarah Palin tells us, on April 18 at 6.30 am, is nowhere to be found. If you can find any public record of Trig Palin’s birth anywhere, please let me know. I will gladly publish it as soon as I find it. So far, none exists that I have been able to track down.
The Dish contacted Mat-Su and asked what the criteria are for including the names of the babies born in the hospital.
They said that inclusion on the list is by parental choice and they ask all parents. When asked if it was therefore a fair inference to say that they asked the Palins and the Palins chose not to have their child included on the list, the hospital told us that the Palins’ privacy barred them from answering those questions. I asked the McCain-Palin campaign to comment but they refuse to answer my emails.
As far as the propriety of demanding such basic public records, I am merely following Sarah Palin’s own standards. In her first race for mayor of Wasilla, she demanded the marriage license of her opponent be made public. Why? Because his wife kept her maiden name – and Palin deemed that sufficiently unusual to demand total transparency. If that level of transparency is necessary for the race for Wasilla mayor, why is it “unspeakable” for the vice-presidency of the United States? Is being mayor of Wasilla more significant than possibly being US president?
Perhaps I’d say leave it alone if it were not for the hypocrisy of her asking for the marriage license in the mayoral campaign. Mat-Su says they give the option to exclude and I’d guess they take it. But the story of her flying back to Alaska from Texas leaking amniotic fluid during a high risk pregnancy and then not going straight to the hospital in Anchorage but rather driving an additional 45 minutes to Mat-Su in Wasilla. What gives?
Candidates release medical records, tax returns… what’s the deal? This woman is a weirdo – just answer a question.
Now you guys are weirdos for asking this time.
What a bunch of freaks. Shouldn’t you have enough confidence in your candidate to leave this shit alone? Don’t you think he’s going to win in a landslide? Won’t his awesomeness make this a virtual cakewalk for him? Grow up.
She considers this a personal matter and quite frankly it is. It’s not relevant.
Great insights into DV and why relationships break up around him…..poke, poke, poke, poke…..
Dominique,
Stop sending me these little love notes in the DL comment section. It would never work out. Let’s just be friends.
“Candidates release medical records, tax returns… what’s the deal?”
They only release the medical records relevant to their own health. This line of questioning is absurd, even for intellectual cowards like you.
I don’t really like this sort of story. That being said these are exactly the sort of tactics Sarah Palin has used against her opponents in the past. So basically I’m not going to lose any sleep – or outrage – over it.
Hmmm… didn’t a certain DWA blogger jump all over the Edwards’ affair story before there was any confirmation… only blog rumor? 😉
Pandora: When/where did Palin use such tactics? Try not to use “facts” like the myriad phony stories still even used by the MSM — y’know, like women paying for their own rape kits, the banned books, etc…
wow! hypocritical privacy concerns followed by not-so-clever insults.
fuck y’all.
and what the hell is an ‘intellectual coward’ anyway? two words that just sound good together? loser.
Public officials, public records, everything should be out in the open.
They can’t hold themselves to the same standards they hold others. Gee, where have I heard that before…
it’s the GOP motto
Pandora – let’s face it, a story about a handsome politician cheating on his wife is a little more plausible than a woman passing off her daughter’s developmentally disabled child as her own. That’s just a bad soap opera storyline.
and what the hell is an ‘intellectual coward’ anyway?
a person that is afraid of the truth I think. Which is amusing coming from the person that wrote it.
Pandora: When/where did Palin use such tactics? Try not to use “facts” like the myriad phony stories still even used by the MSM — y’know, like women paying for their own rape kits, the banned books, etc…
it says she used the same tactics in the story.
oh wait, i forgot you never read entire posts. You just jump to conclusion b/c of the person posting.
Pandora,
Yes she did. I WAS RIGHT. She was wrong. I remember it well.
Here are two more words that sound good together:
Alabama Thunderpussy
Link. http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=8c130fe3-adab-4cb3-8443-c363f085cf13&p=3
“Within a few months, Palin was officially challenging Stein and exploiting the cultural shift masterfully. She welcomed a national anti-abortion group in to carpet bomb Wasilla with pink postcards affirming her pro-life bona fides. She orchestrated an NRA endorsement and a mailing from the group falsely proclaiming Stein, a lifelong hunter, “anti-gun.” (Stein complained to the local newspaper that Palin was telling voters he wanted to “melt down” all the firearms in the state.) And, in a move practically out of Karl Rove’s playbook, she dwelled on how Stein’s wife used her maiden name, going so far as to demand a marriage certificate as proof of their nuptials. Palin’s campaign literature proclaimed her “deeply devoted to conservative family values”–all in the context of an ostensibly nonpartisan election. (Stein himself was a moderate Republican.)”
I’m with Dominique on this one. Obama is so close to the finish line. This type of smear, much like the BS Palin is trying to pass off, does no one any good, especially Obama.
this shit’s being done on the sidelines….it’s Sullivan that’s picking away at it, not Obama or surrogates.
This is coming from Andrew Sullivan, not Obama.
Geez, where was this moral outrage when McCain/Palin supporters yelled “kill him” and “terrorist”?
And, Dom, rumor is rumor. I don’t particularly like either story, but I refuse to jump to the defense of people who are now running their entire campaign on smears. Like I said… I ain’t losing sleep over this.
Again, Pan — is this another “fact” like the rape kits and banned books? Sullivan is hardly an unbiased source. And even if so, marriage records are public records (and IF Palin did as stated it is swarmy, OK, yet it’s politics). However, as noted in this “article,” the hospital said it is the parents choice to have a record kept and maybe, just maybe, since the kid is a Down’s Syndrome baby, that played into the choice.
Being that you lowlifes already brought this up (among phony “facts”) way before this new “article,” the reality quotient becomes suspect. Much like Obama’s Muslim faith and ineligibility for president b/c he wasn’t born here, wouldn’t you say?
Hubert,
Hey dimwitty — I wonder how you’d feel if people started posting “I wonder who the REAL father of dimwitty’s kid is?”
You remain, as ever, a real “[cl]ass” act, shithead.
1. I’m not a public official.
2. I didn’t question another persons marriage license during my run for the position of “smacking Pube around”
3. Stop trying to box me into a corner, I don’t have anything to hide and if I ran for PUBLIC office I wouldn’t hide anything.
4. I wouldn’t feel anything either. B/C I would have thick skin to protect myself from schmucks that try to attack me as a person, call me names b/c I am different or b/c they think they are superior to me.
5. I would have my wife tell you. “It’s His.” Then point to me. then go like this…
Picture Mrs. Hotviti Stretching hands out l3 feet apart ike she was saying how big my penis is.
Then she would say, “I remember the night very well.”
I would smile. Kiss her, pat her on the ass. Stare right at you and stick my tongue out at you and say, “Nyahhhh”
5. Then I would say, I need more cowbell.
6. After that I would put up a bunch of stupid comments on my campaign website that says what an awesome campaign website I have.
7. After that I would make fun of everyone that isn’t as smart as me. Which is 99% of the public.
Well, lying about childbirth is a hell of a lot worse than lying about a blowjob. I’d like to see one tenth of the effort expended on Whitewater used to investigate Palin.
the end
Hube, why the quotes around facts?
The police in Wasilla had a practice to charge victims for rape kits.
Sarah Palin asked the Wasilla librarian about banning books.
nemski: Wrong on #1. Try Salon, hardly a conservative site, for one.
On #2, Palin asked the hypothetical about removing certain books due to unspecified inappropriate content. NO books were removed despite the request and even after Palin assumed office. Even after the librarian was axed (along with numerous other political appointees). Why is that? Were you one of the mental heavyweights who circulated that mythical “banned books list” to everyone?
Ah yes, the deletion of the comments begins!
I deleted the comments Hube because they were out of line and you know it.
Miscreant,
They only release the medical records relevant to their own health. This line of questioning is absurd, even for intellectual cowards like you.
then why hasn’t McCain released his medical records?
What a “man” you are, dimwitty! Questioning a WOMAN’S childbirth, but cannot face same??
Can you say “cowardice?”
Go to hell all of you. I know you’ll enjoy it.
Dom,
Pandora – let’s face it, a story about a handsome politician cheating on his wife is a little more plausible than a woman passing off her daughter’s developmentally disabled child as her own. That’s just a bad soap opera storyline.
so is a toe tapping 60 year old homosexual trying to get handjobs in an airport stall…
A congressman trying to pick up 15 year old pages
Hmmm… a little rewrite fun:
Palin asked the hypothetical about killing certain individuals due to unspecified inappropriate behavior. NO individuals were killed despite the request and even after Palin assumed office.
Absolutely absurd Hef–way too much time on your hands. First of all–newspaper publication is NOT public record…so Sullivan is a loser for not going to the state archives or whatever agency handles those things in Alaska–but big deal. Many individuals/couples choose NOT to announce births via the newspaper or hospital listing, and in fact now sign giving permission to do so. And it used to be, unmarried mothers were denied having their baby’s birth published. Not so anymore. And one more thing..Trig’s birth record will be there, and legally recorded, but you do not have to sign in as a patient using your real name. An alias may have been used for Sarah during this private time, and subsequent private ordeal/crisis surrounding his birth. Believe me, many an Eagles player, rock legend, CEO’s wives, Mafia Dons, and political figures have had back surgeries, babies, facelifts, hernia repairs, appendectomies, nervous breakdowns, and urinary retention, and the public is none the wiser–only known to doctor, and hospital admin., and maybe those in direct care if personality is one of high visibility–just like it should be.
that was a rewrite folks, Palin didn’t say that, except about books…
hubert,
What a “man” you are, dimwitty! Questioning a WOMAN’S childbirth, but cannot face same??
Can you say “cowardice?”
cowardice.
You tried to call me out. I said I wouldn’t do what she is doing and you call me names.
wooohoooo
I win.
Hube regarding the rape kits, do you mean this story on Salon?
Just wondering.
JC,
Many individuals/couples choose NOT to announce births via the newspaper or hospital listing, and in fact now sign giving permission to do so.
This man does it on the internet and I’m not even trying to be the VP.
Why isn’t she being an open book. Why do public officials want to have a private life?
BTW, Hube is a 30%er.
Deleting comments again? C’mon guys. Get the hell over it.
MM thanks for chiming in. Read DV’s comments ad deduce what I deleted. The comments were wrong.
Nemski. Try again at Salon. Or elsewhere, I don’t care. Name one woman who was charged for her rape kit.
At any rate, I knew better than to come in here. It’s only acceptable, apparently, when I agree…
About as wrong as this post, nemski. But that doesn’t matter. What’s next — Obama is a fundamentalist Muslim? Same sort of garbage, after all…
Nemski,
But I’ll never know, will I? You deleted the comment.
alabama thunderpussy does sound pretty awesome!
Look, I don’t agree with this post either. However, attacking DV about his personal life instead of arguing about how ridiculousness of the post is just sophomoric.
MM, read #22, I’m pretty sure you can figure it out.
hubert,
did sarah palin ask the hypothetical like this?
“HUBE?
ARE YOU A DICK?”
Was it sort of like that?
Hube, you know very well I can’t name one women who was charged for a rape kit. And, if you read #25, you’ll see I never wrote that.
Does she even know Trig’s birth certificate is being looked for? What a priority!!!
Nemski,
You still deleted a comment. You could have asterisked the naughty bits. Your blog brethren know where I stand on this.
hubert,
Nemski. Try again at Salon. Or elsewhere, I don’t care. Name one woman who was charged for her rape kit.
oh, so that is your standard now? Moving the target are we?
We have gone from saying she wanted to charge the rape kits to actually doing it. I get it, so if no one was ever charged she didn’t really try to charge them. GShe never met push back from the legislators and/or get guilted into not charging the “victims”…
wow hube, I can’t say I’m surprised by your logic.
your turn.
call me a mean name now
50 comments on this? Freaking out much Republicans?
Dom & Mike –
It was Andrew Sullivan.
Hube,
Who put the mexican jumping beans in your shorts?
MM, there were no naughty bits . . . you want something like this?
DV, who’s your baby’s f*****r?
DV, who’s your baby’s d***y?
LOL.
Mike,
I’m losing more and more respect for you as the days go by.
Selling out to Burris,
trying to steal a contributor,
then continually coming over here and trying to get people to listen to your radio show ( I assume without asking if it was ok)
now reading that comment about my wife is crossing the line and I think you know that.
Hey now. It worked on me. I tuned into Mike’s show after he made the plug here and I’m glad I did.
I’m sorry I just don’t think this story is very important. It’s the kind of story flogged by the fringe types. I could really care less whether she listed the birth or not.
UI, you’re suppose to disparage DV now. 🙂
keeping the peace…
fine, fine, fine…I guess maybe I’m seeing something that is nothing…which is possible I guess.
seems transparent to me, but I will apologize for overreacting. Perhaps it is because I’m tired or my wife just was attacked.
my bad mike
“hook nosed bastard”
Hey DV, don’t worry, tomorrow I’ll post something about Palin’s alleged affair. And I’ll have the National Enquirer to back me up.
BTW, I’ve been called a fucking hypocrite by Hube. Does that mean I have arrived?
I can’t believe how fast this post heated up. My first inclination was to smile then ignore it. Then I read the comments and had to respond. My bad, too!
YES!
MORE COWBELL FOR YOU!
OK, it’s my turn to disparage DV. DV, your son is much cuter than you are!
Pandora,
I think the R’s are going to get crazier and crazier as the McCain campaign continues to tank.
Squishy,
What in the FUCK are you talking about?!?!?
Selling out to Burris? WTF?
Trying to “steal” a contributor? WTF?
Trying to get your readers to listen to my dumb show? WTF?
And I made a comment about your wife? WTF?
Please tell me that whole comment of yours was farce, because, if not, them I’m gonna have to start siding with Hube when I form opinions about you.
As for it being Andrew Sullivan, Jason, that’s not saying much. The man is a conservative who’s professed his love for Obama. All I’m saying is the story, strategically, is not wise. Let’s hope no one outside of Sullivan and his readers spread it any further.
You guys seem to forget that it’s not that I don’t believe the story. I don’t know whether it’s true or not and could care less. All I care about is the PERCEIVED impact it could have on the electorate. If the left starts, again, tearing down Palin’s UNDERAGE daughter and her WAAAYYY-underage retarded baby, then it will NOT have a good effect on Obama.
Do you all get what I’m saying here?
Now that was a bit nasty, A. Bundy! Whassamatter? Peg not givin’ it up lately?
bitch
So I guess it was farce? Silly me, I just never know when to take you seriously…
mmj,
don’t mind me man…I apoligize, my comments are running together.
I’m giving myself a timeout for a few hours.
again, sorry.
Daddyviti–you need a solid 8–and Mrs. Hef better not be out of her bathrobe yet–you want me to take a nite shift? It’s too close to Election Day for you to alienate votes/friends!
Blog commenting on no sleep is almost as dangerous as drunk driving.
I’ve done both, and I deeply regret both.
Speaking of drunk driving-I went to one of those mandated insurance talks required of driving a company car, and the police chief who spoke said a text messager en route is more dangerous than a drunk driver. He said the drunk is doing their best to hug the line etc.. So please, if you’re drunk and driving, don’t text you’re on your way home!!
Words to live by.
I don’t trust Andrew Sullivan. He’s the one who called people opposed to the Iraq War (hereby known as “the smart ones” and DFHs) a “fifth column.” He also published that filth of the The Bell Curve. He is not forgiven.
I guess I have to say that one of my pet peeves are Republicans who have “seen the light” long after everyone else has. Why do they deserve special credit. [end of rant]
Here, here! I’m not taking Sullivan into the fold, and I resent conservatives throwing him at us. As far as I’m concerned I’m free to use him as a tool, but beyond that he’s banished into political party limbo!
Shout out to Jason for #72. That made me laugh.
Oh, and these medical records are in no way relevant to the campaign.
Yes they are.
“Yes they are.”
How, fat boy?
If Mike W can make unsubstantiated statements and try to pass them off as fact, so can I.
Just the way I like you Jason. In the gutter wetting yourself just to make a point.
I shall enjoy watching Obama disappoint you.
“and what the hell is an ‘intellectual coward’ anyway? two words that just sound good together? loser.
You need to read up, Sparky. Those words do have a certain intensity to them, especially when they’re used accurately, as in this case. Intellectual cowardice is subject to many interpretations depending on how it’s used. In this context, you are simultaneously putting forward a claim and refusing to stand by it by ridiculing, or in some case censoring, others who don’t share your flawed beliefs, coward.
There you go. That didn’t hurt, did it?
Go easy. VC is the retard in the family.
I pooped on Sarah Palin once.
What claim am I making? I was only ripping the first 5 loony comments which were chock-full of righteous indignation….screaming ‘personal and private’…yeah right! Palin’s never misled anyone for political reasons and aspirations!
If you have an issue with it, take it up with The Atlantic. I’m sure Sullivan gets a few more hits than this joint (sorry fellas!). But all that DV did was to call-out Palin for not adhering to her own standard of transparency, even for the most trivial matters. That’s not, as you call it, intellectual cowardice (and yes, I googled it. It seems to be a favorite phrase of the Right…meaning it’s most likely a prominent affliction amongst the crowd).
But please forgive my lack of knowledge of new colloquial terms arising from the word ‘stubborn’. Again, my bad.
“There you go. That didn’t hurt, did it?”
I bet you say that to all the boys.
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And Melodius – relatively, you might be correct! But how do you know so much about my family? That’s so creepy.
I think the baby is one of those Reborn dolls.
lol
But I wonder if there’s a Donviti birth certificate listed?