See…adoption is a great alternative…awwww
Early Saturday, Calvert authorities made a gruesome discovery: the bodies of two children encased in ice in a freezer in the home of Renee D. Bowman, 43. Bowman has been receiving a monthly government subsidy of $2,400 to care for her three adopted children: the 7-year-old girl on the street and two others who are now officially missing
I’m sure the mother was doing what she thought was right too
I poop on this post.
Leave it to DV to malign every adoptive parent in one fell swoop, just so he can see some baby’s brain get sucked out by a vacuum…legally.
I acknowledge the point you’re hinting at, but I would love to know how this sick-bitch passed the vetting process for adoption. She certainly doesn’t represent the whole process, but shows how far from perfect it is.
Well, I would ask the following question:
Is it fair to judge a programs success by its worst failures?
Weak pro-abortion argument. Try again tomorrow.
What would you have preferred? They’d be just as dead if they’d been aborted. Not sure there is a good alternative in this particular case.
Though it certainly does call into question the adoption vetting process, as Smitty notes. Hell, the Humane Society is more careful who it gives its kittens to.
These people had no prior records of such abuse. Why is the vetting process to blame and not the evil people who did it? Yes, improve the process, but remember we can’t read minds. I hate this attitude that the people to blame aren’t the ones who committed the crime.
Statistically, speaking adoptive parents are less likely to be abusive than natural born parents and step parents because of the vetting process.
The argument that it is better to kill an hundred thousand children in the womb then have the possibility that a few may get killed outside of it is so stupid that I will pass on discussing it. At least these murders will get justice, the abortionists get paid.
Besides feeling physically ill about this post…you have managed to find the “Man Bites Dog” post of the day….being bold I now say….don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater…..
“These people had no prior records of such abuse. Why is the vetting process to blame and not the evil people who did it?”
Because liberals have a serious aversion to personal responsibility. Everything is always the fault of someone or something else.
Maybe they think we should treat those who want to adopt in the same way they think we should treat legal gun owners? Like potential criminals. Guilty until proven innocent.
David, I agree that the people that committed the crime are the ones to blame. Two things:
If the answer to overturning Roe v Wade is more adoption, we will have a huge increase in adoption. So your statistics may be invalid going forward.
If we cannot judge the adoption system by their worst offenders, why must we judge AFDC by a few offenders that take money that they aren’t entitled to?
And they’re worried about gay people adopting?
I never understood the rationale for overturning Roe.
If people want or need abortions and can’t get them we’ll just see a flourishing black market for the procedure.
At least they are straight serial killers…
If people want or need abortions and can’t get them we’ll just see a flourishing black market for the procedure.
Of course, it would also involved an elevated number of deaths by the procedure, as well as criminalization of the doctors that perform them. We will start to see dead women on the side of the road because of botched procedures that would end up getting the “doctor” arrested. much easier to dispose of the evidence…
To the anti-choice people:
What criminal penalties do you propose for women that have abortions?
What criminal penalties do you propose for doctors that perform abortions?
Do you realize that you probably work and associate with many women who are, by your definition, murderers? How do you feel about that? Should they go to jail? Be executed? Have their families taken away?
What are you going to do with the millions of frozen in-vitro fertilized eggs? Aren’t they human, too? How are you going to raise them or do you charge the people who throw them out with murder? Do you want to ban in-vitro fertilization as an option for people?
Is contraception that prevents the implantation of a fertilized egg in the womb also murder?
Are spontaneous abortions involuntary manslaughter?
Truth is, wealthy women will always have access to abortion. It will just be called a D and C.
Overturning Roe will only effect poor women.
I just found my “strapping young buck” is all.
Speaking as an adoptive parent who is also pro-abortion rights, I have to point out that we have literally several million children waiting for adoption right now.
The problem: 95% of them are not infants, not white, or have serious health/emotional problems. Where are the people stepping up to take those children?
This case I can understand, because the current trend in the social bureaucracies is that every child must have some sort of “permanency plan,” and there are well-known states around the US where you have to have about as much background check done before you can adopt as, say, a subprime mortgage applicant who can’t show proof of income but wants a 5-1 ARM on a $250,000 house…
I’m back–and all adoptees I have had contact w/ are accounted for and doing well…..Hef you’re a mess!!!
duh
“I never understood the rationale for overturning Roe.”
Seriously?
“If people want or need abortions and can’t get them we’ll just see a flourishing black market for the procedure.”
Looking at the nations who had high rates of abortion and then made it illegal it, we probably wouldn’t.
“What criminal penalties do you propose for women that have abortions?”
That’s be up to the state
“What criminal penalties do you propose for doctors that perform abortions?”
Trial for murder.
“Do you realize that you probably work and associate with many women who are, by your definition, murderers? How do you feel about that?”
I feel sad. Very sad.
“Is contraception that prevents the implantation of a fertilized egg in the womb also murder?”
No……
“Truth is, wealthy women will always have access to abortion. It will just be called a D and C.”
booooo. Wealthy people will always have access to plenty of illegal things – is that really an argument for legalizing all of them?
Tom S.
You really answered only two questions. The rest are typical dodges.
And why would you treat a fertilized egg expelled surgically differently than one expelled using pharmaceuticals?
Thanks for playing, though.
Tom – Just because you believe abortion = murder doesn’t mean everyone else shares that view. Why should others have that view thrust upon them and be denied the right to choose?
“And why would you treat a fertilized egg expelled surgically differently than one expelled using pharmaceuticals?”
Sorry about that, I misread the initial question as “Is contraception that prevents the fertilization of a egg in the womb also murder?”
If conception occurs and the resulting entity (you, for instance) is intentionally killed that qualifies as murder.
“You really answered only two questions. The rest are typical dodges.”
Says you.
“Tom – Just because you believe abortion = murder doesn’t mean everyone else shares that view.”
Wasn’t questioning that – was wondering if you seriously, as you said, never understood the rational for the pro-life position.
“Why should others have that view thrust upon them and be denied the right to choose?”
Because there are two people involved in that “choice”. If this was a choice that only impacted one person I would be with you, but it is not.
Tom, how many unwanted babies have you adopted? How many struggling, pregnant women have you taken into your home or supported financially? Are you walking the talk?
two people implies that both are actually human. spare me
Troll wars!!
“two people implies that both are actually human. spare me”
Agreed. So if a pregnant woman can prove the life form she is carrying inside her is a roach, then she is more than welcome to abort.
The sad thing is that if it were a puppy she was carrying inside of her, there would likely be less “pro-choice” people.
If it was an Alaskan Caribou, Roe v. Wade would be history.