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		<title>By: Paul F.</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/08/13/alabama-democratic-party-chairman-shot/#comment-53156</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 04:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we go drinking with them at Mikimoto’s,
5 - ish, Tuesday, the 26th, before the Triangle association meet the candidates night, 6:30 at Sallies.? .

Will they go to the gun range with us?
On Friday, to shoot silhouettes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we go drinking with them at Mikimoto’s,<br />
5 &#8211; ish, Tuesday, the 26th, before the Triangle association meet the candidates night, 6:30 at Sallies.? .</p>
<p>Will they go to the gun range with us?<br />
On Friday, to shoot silhouettes?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul F.</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/08/13/alabama-democratic-party-chairman-shot/#comment-52119</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 04:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn, No invite yet.</description>
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		<title>By: Paul F.</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/08/13/alabama-democratic-party-chairman-shot/#comment-51900</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New Castle, Mores lane... ??
Indoor range, 7PM Friday is Silhouette shooting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New Castle, Mores lane&#8230; ??<br />
Indoor range, 7PM Friday is Silhouette shooting.</p>
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		<title>By: Von Cracker</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/08/13/alabama-democratic-party-chairman-shot/#comment-51899</link>
		<dc:creator>Von Cracker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, Ommelanden.  Reminds me of the time I used to load trap for the WTA when I was still in high school.  Used to work the one off of route 40.  

Spending all summer&#039;s day in a suffocating subterranean bunker with an igloo cooler and a radio.  Still have the scars on my forearm from girls on lifeguard chairs with itchy trigger fingers.

Good money, though, for teenager in &#039;88.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, Ommelanden.  Reminds me of the time I used to load trap for the WTA when I was still in high school.  Used to work the one off of route 40.  </p>
<p>Spending all summer&#8217;s day in a suffocating subterranean bunker with an igloo cooler and a radio.  Still have the scars on my forearm from girls on lifeguard chairs with itchy trigger fingers.</p>
<p>Good money, though, for teenager in &#8216;88.</p>
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		<title>By: mike w.</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/08/13/alabama-democratic-party-chairman-shot/#comment-51895</link>
		<dc:creator>mike w.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not unless they don&#039;t work.  The range is open 9-3 Friday&#039;s. (unless you shoot somewhere other than Ommelanden)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not unless they don&#8217;t work.  The range is open 9-3 Friday&#8217;s. (unless you shoot somewhere other than Ommelanden)</p>
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		<title>By: Paul F.</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/08/13/alabama-democratic-party-chairman-shot/#comment-51894</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we go drinking with them at Mikimoto&#039;s,
5 - ish, Tuesday, the 26th, before the Triangle association meet the candidates night, 6:30 at Sallies.? . 

Will they go to the gun range with us? 
On Friday, to shoot silhouettes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we go drinking with them at Mikimoto&#8217;s,<br />
5 &#8211; ish, Tuesday, the 26th, before the Triangle association meet the candidates night, 6:30 at Sallies.? . </p>
<p>Will they go to the gun range with us?<br />
On Friday, to shoot silhouettes?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul F.</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/08/13/alabama-democratic-party-chairman-shot/#comment-51890</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Such a failure to study the guns and the data they provide, just indicates the politics of the situation is driven by opinion and bias. That is why I am against those who expound on GUN CONTROL, it is mostly uninformed opinion and emotions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such a failure to study the guns and the data they provide, just indicates the politics of the situation is driven by opinion and bias. That is why I am against those who expound on GUN CONTROL, it is mostly uninformed opinion and emotions.</p>
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		<title>By: mike w.</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/08/13/alabama-democratic-party-chairman-shot/#comment-51888</link>
		<dc:creator>mike w.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And may I repeat, It is an avoidance of the issues presented in comment #19.&quot;

Paul. You can expect a lot of avoidance from these folks.  They&#039;ll even flat out tell you &quot;you&#039;re wrong&quot; even if your argument is backed up with facts.  They&#039;ll spew lies on issues they know nothing about (Like DD and his insistence that the &quot;Gun Show Loophole&quot; is real, despite my repeatedly explaining to him how he&#039;s mistaken) or JadeGold&#039;s 100% false claim that guns were banned at the NRA convention this year, despite the fact that I was there and he was not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And may I repeat, It is an avoidance of the issues presented in comment #19.&#8221;</p>
<p>Paul. You can expect a lot of avoidance from these folks.  They&#8217;ll even flat out tell you &#8220;you&#8217;re wrong&#8221; even if your argument is backed up with facts.  They&#8217;ll spew lies on issues they know nothing about (Like DD and his insistence that the &#8220;Gun Show Loophole&#8221; is real, despite my repeatedly explaining to him how he&#8217;s mistaken) or JadeGold&#8217;s 100% false claim that guns were banned at the NRA convention this year, despite the fact that I was there and he was not.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul F.</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/08/13/alabama-democratic-party-chairman-shot/#comment-51878</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go back to Comment #19, by Chris. 
Comment on the Causes within society, and how we treat each other. 
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200 years ago, the per capita gun ownership was higher that ever. The West was still being explored, Farmers still hunted, and wars were waged. 100 years ago, people still respected each other, and gun violence was rare. Ask yourself, what has changed in this society and its demographics, because it is the people who do the actions. The weapons used in todays crimes have not changed that much in 50 years.  But the use has. And comment #19 directly addresses the changes in society. 
===========
I was at a recent meeting in Wilmington, concerning the response to the Murder on 300 South Van Buren Street. The police tried to brag that they confiscated 714 guns in Wilmington. 

When asked if there was a diagnosis performed on the source of the guns, the officer was dumbfounded.  He stated that the guns were sent to ATF, but no one has requested any synopsis on any statistics gathered, or study done. 
When people presume to make suggestions for gun controls, but fail to take into account, actually trying to study the situation, we have insanity.  
714 guns confiscated in Wilmington, a city with 70,000 people, is 1 gun per 100 people. Presumably these guns were used in crimes, or possessed by persons prohibited. And therefore rightfully confiscated. [ I hope.]
BUT to do NO STUDY  to determine the source of the weapons? Such a failure to study the guns and the data they provide, just indicates the politics of the situation is driven by opinion and bias.  That is why I am against those who expound on GUN CONTROL, it is mostly uninformed opinion and emotions. And may I repeat, It is  an avoidance of the issues presented in comment #19.  
.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go back to Comment #19, by Chris.<br />
Comment on the Causes within society, and how we treat each other.<br />
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200 years ago, the per capita gun ownership was higher that ever. The West was still being explored, Farmers still hunted, and wars were waged. 100 years ago, people still respected each other, and gun violence was rare. Ask yourself, what has changed in this society and its demographics, because it is the people who do the actions. The weapons used in todays crimes have not changed that much in 50 years.  But the use has. And comment #19 directly addresses the changes in society.<br />
===========<br />
I was at a recent meeting in Wilmington, concerning the response to the Murder on 300 South Van Buren Street. The police tried to brag that they confiscated 714 guns in Wilmington. </p>
<p>When asked if there was a diagnosis performed on the source of the guns, the officer was dumbfounded.  He stated that the guns were sent to ATF, but no one has requested any synopsis on any statistics gathered, or study done.<br />
When people presume to make suggestions for gun controls, but fail to take into account, actually trying to study the situation, we have insanity.<br />
714 guns confiscated in Wilmington, a city with 70,000 people, is 1 gun per 100 people. Presumably these guns were used in crimes, or possessed by persons prohibited. And therefore rightfully confiscated. [ I hope.]<br />
BUT to do NO STUDY  to determine the source of the weapons? Such a failure to study the guns and the data they provide, just indicates the politics of the situation is driven by opinion and bias.  That is why I am against those who expound on GUN CONTROL, it is mostly uninformed opinion and emotions. And may I repeat, It is  an avoidance of the issues presented in comment #19.<br />
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		<title>By: mike w.</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/08/13/alabama-democratic-party-chairman-shot/#comment-51866</link>
		<dc:creator>mike w.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John - Glad to see this comment make it through.  Excellent comment BTW.  I&#039;d forgotten entirely about  the Himmler quote.

&quot;How do you have a rational argument with someone whose worldview is so irrational?&quot;

It&#039;s often like talking to a wall, which is why I was told I was &quot;talking down to them.&quot;  I was, but only because they lacked capacity for rational thought on the issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John &#8211; Glad to see this comment make it through.  Excellent comment BTW.  I&#8217;d forgotten entirely about  the Himmler quote.</p>
<p>&#8220;How do you have a rational argument with someone whose worldview is so irrational?&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s often like talking to a wall, which is why I was told I was &#8220;talking down to them.&#8221;  I was, but only because they lacked capacity for rational thought on the issue.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hardin</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/08/13/alabama-democratic-party-chairman-shot/#comment-51102</link>
		<dc:creator>John Hardin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;We can&#039;t carry sarin gas around or mine our front yard&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In what possible way are Sarin or land mines germane to a discussion about handheld weapons used for self defense? Your hyperbole straw man grenade was ineffective, Jade. Try answering the questions you were asked.

It seems that the anti-firearms-rights crowd has no sense of proportion, that they see a pistol as morally equivalent to a WMD. Perhaps this is another manifestation of the inability to distinguish between protective violence and predatory violence. How do you have a rational argument with someone whose worldview is so irrational?

&lt;blockquote&gt;You want to carry a gun around? Enlist.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Jade, are you intentionally &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/h/heinrichhi201255.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;channelling Himmler&lt;/a&gt;?

&lt;i&gt;Moderator: if you kill this post again, please email me and tell me why. Thanks.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>We can&#8217;t carry sarin gas around or mine our front yard</p></blockquote>
<p>In what possible way are Sarin or land mines germane to a discussion about handheld weapons used for self defense? Your hyperbole straw man grenade was ineffective, Jade. Try answering the questions you were asked.</p>
<p>It seems that the anti-firearms-rights crowd has no sense of proportion, that they see a pistol as morally equivalent to a WMD. Perhaps this is another manifestation of the inability to distinguish between protective violence and predatory violence. How do you have a rational argument with someone whose worldview is so irrational?</p>
<blockquote><p>You want to carry a gun around? Enlist.</p></blockquote>
<p>Jade, are you intentionally <a href="http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/h/heinrichhi201255.html" rel="nofollow">channelling Himmler</a>?</p>
<p><i>Moderator: if you kill this post again, please email me and tell me why. Thanks.</i></p>
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		<title>By: mike w.</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/08/13/alabama-democratic-party-chairman-shot/#comment-49940</link>
		<dc:creator>mike w.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jade - You&#039;ve already told us 

&quot;there are no restrictions on handheld weapons&quot;

and then went on to say that the BANS in DC and Chicago are not &quot;restrictions&quot;

Such blatant lack of intelligence precludes you from being taken seriously by anyone with a passable IQ.

And don&#039;t you DARE tell me to go serve if I want to carry a gun.  I got enough of that crap from TT already.  I would never be allowed to serve anyway, even if we had a draft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jade &#8211; You&#8217;ve already told us </p>
<p>&#8220;there are no restrictions on handheld weapons&#8221;</p>
<p>and then went on to say that the BANS in DC and Chicago are not &#8220;restrictions&#8221;</p>
<p>Such blatant lack of intelligence precludes you from being taken seriously by anyone with a passable IQ.</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t you DARE tell me to go serve if I want to carry a gun.  I got enough of that crap from TT already.  I would never be allowed to serve anyway, even if we had a draft.</p>
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		<title>By: JadeGold</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/08/13/alabama-democratic-party-chairman-shot/#comment-49928</link>
		<dc:creator>JadeGold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Restrictions is what way, Mike?

We can&#039;t carry sarin gas around or mine our front yard; yet,  we don&#039;t feel restricted in any way.

You want to carry a gun around? Enlist.  Support your hero, George Bush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Restrictions is what way, Mike?</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t carry sarin gas around or mine our front yard; yet,  we don&#8217;t feel restricted in any way.</p>
<p>You want to carry a gun around? Enlist.  Support your hero, George Bush.</p>
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		<title>By: mike w.</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/08/13/alabama-democratic-party-chairman-shot/#comment-49921</link>
		<dc:creator>mike w.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who&#039;s &quot;we&quot; Jade?  You, Jason, Pandora, and DBB.  I consider it an honor to be considered &quot;silly&quot; by folks with your level of cognitive ability.

And Faln is silly, in a good way.

Again Jade - I can&#039;t carry my gun in Dover but I can in the rest of the state.  I can&#039;t carry my pocketknife in Philly but I can here in Delaware.  Care to explain how either of those are not &quot;restrictions?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who&#8217;s &#8220;we&#8221; Jade?  You, Jason, Pandora, and DBB.  I consider it an honor to be considered &#8220;silly&#8221; by folks with your level of cognitive ability.</p>
<p>And Faln is silly, in a good way.</p>
<p>Again Jade &#8211; I can&#8217;t carry my gun in Dover but I can in the rest of the state.  I can&#8217;t carry my pocketknife in Philly but I can here in Delaware.  Care to explain how either of those are not &#8220;restrictions?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: falnfenix</title>
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		<dc:creator>falnfenix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and i think you&#039;re a bloody lunatic, but that&#039;s neither here nor there.  answer my question, please - just how many personalities are lurking about in there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and i think you&#8217;re a bloody lunatic, but that&#8217;s neither here nor there.  answer my question, please &#8211; just how many personalities are lurking about in there?</p>
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