http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-chicago-murders-upaug07,0,260187.story

An extremely good point that I’d failed to mention. Then again, those unsympathetic towards one Constitutional right generally aren’t sympathetic towards others either. I’ve seen many “liberals” eager to throw other Constitutional rights under the bus when the cause is “getting guns off the streets.”

The dirty little secret in DC is that the really smart honest folks have been ignoring the gun law for decades. It is a rare cop who will worry about such ‘crimes’. While the odds favor the ‘good guys’, should we trust to the arbitrary and capricious judgement of a police officer? While arrests for simple ‘illegal possession’ are rare, they can occur when there is an act of successful self defense and a zealous prosecutor wants to score some points.

How many remember the case when liberal columnist Carl Rowan shot a kid skninny-dipping in his pool in an upscale neighborhood? Liberal hypocrisy is not a crime and the gun was provided by a dutiful and caring son (who was an FBI agent and did not share many of his father’s views).

Note that soon after the District passed its silly gun laws, it went to court to claim that individuals should not expect the police to protect them from criminals and that was an individual responsibility.

Check Warren v District of Columbia if you doubt the claim.

a. Banning things works so well and
b. I happen to be anti-alcohol and I think fewer drunks is a swell idea (around half of all car fatalities and murders are alcohol related). Banning alcohol, in theory, should cut down violent death by way more than a gun ban.

Hooray for banning.

LG is sympathetic to self defense just checking out scenarios.

Blood is already running in the streets and it’s because of robbers, thieves, killers, rapists, gangsters, drug dealers, etc. etc…. Not because of lawful gun owners or CCW holders.

You could die trying to put out a fire in your house. That doesn’t mean you don’t keep a fire extinguisher in the house or that you don’t bother trying to put out the fire if one occurs.

Wearing a seatbelt could trap you in the car and prove deadly in a crash, but most of the time It’ll save your life. You don’t forgo wearing one because of the miniscule chance it’ll hurt you rather than help you when you need it.

We expose ourselves to risk all the time, understanding that in some really screwed up situation things could go wrong. That’s life.

It is up to you. The concept of self-defense is accepted in most states. There will be an investigation to verify if it is a valid self-defense. LG agrees with self-defense. He is just concerned about using self-defense to go Rambo.

DC is one of the few that did not allow handguns in the home. Most states have no issue with castle doctrine. A lot of states have affirmed that with the “stand my ground” laws. I would like more states to do that to protect victims from being sued by the criminals and the presumption of self-defense unless the investigation shows otherwise.

I am sure you agree that we do not want to use deadly force for innocent transgressions.
We reserve that for when we truly need it. The fear that deadly force will be used or abused is real. That is why all the cries of “blood will run in the streets” when CCW was debated in the states. Reality has shown that CCW holders are much more circumspect and that CCW people do not shoot people inappropriately.

I agree with you DJK but LG is not an opponent by his postings. He just has a few questions.

If you start with:

If enough 15 year old amateur burglars end up at room temperature, the alure of breaking and entering wanes

I rest my case people. How do you argue with that sort of logic.

You end up shooting the guy.

That seemed pretty close…

http://www.wkyt.com/home/headlines/18361444.html

And that may be the real thing, but it is a little different.

What we’re seeing is that the government doesn’t think we can make those choices on our own and need their enlightened assistance to do so. Why can’t I choose for myself? If I shoot someone or punch someone and it’s not warranted….rest assured that I’ll get punished far worse than some career criminals get punished for worse.