COPELAND FILES TO RUN FOR LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR

Filed in National by on April 25, 2008

Copeland is giving up his senate seat to run against Denn. I didn’t see this coming.

Delaware Senate Minority Leader Charlie Copeland filed to run for Lieutenant Governor of Delaware today.

“During my six years in the Senate, I have too often seen this administration ignore serious problems,” said Copeland. “The transportation budget, prisoners’ health care, the psychiatric facility, and now the state budget –this administration ignored all of these problems until they had spiraled out of control.”

From my reading of the press release they’ve talked Bill Lee into being a stalking horse candidate at the top of the ticket to give Copeland some cover.

Charlie Copeland stated, “When I spoke to Bill Lee to encourage him to run for Governor, he asked me if I would run with him. Bill shares my dedication to our state and my concern for its future. I decided that to make a difference I had to give up my seat in the Senate and run for higher office, where I can better push for the real reform I’ve tried to create for six years. I look forward to running as a team with Judge Bill Lee if he enters the race for governor. However, I am definitely in this race for Lieutenant Governor of Delaware.”

This explains why Copeland had been working with McDowell to oppose wind power. He’ll be the Delmarva Power guy in the race.

Expect this news to dominate everything for a while. Many tiles on the game board have just shifted dramatically.

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  1. anon says:

    That is the best move the Delaware GOP could have made, but still not a winning move. It is probably the best way to attract some traditional GOP donors to inject some money into the GOP campaigns.

    The good news is the spotlight will be on Copeland’s deceptions on Bluewater and open government. Jason you have your work cut out for you. Now we are just waiting for the other shoe to drop (Lee).

  2. FSP says:

    Beautiful day in the neighborhood, ain’t it?

  3. selander says:

    Wow. I had to double check the date. I thought it was April 1 after reading this. Good for Charlie.

  4. liberalgeek says:

    I can’t wait to see Copeland and Protack with their hands clasped in the air, rallying the troops as they march together to confront the Democratic candidates on the field of battle.

    A sight to behold.

  5. anon says:

    Even without knowing how the race for Copeland’s seat will shape up, I think this move shows the GOP has conceded the Senate.

  6. anon says:

    oops… mistype….

  7. anon says:

    H0w do y0u use that “delete real quick” feature?

  8. Jason330 says:

    typos rae not a big deal in the fast furious wolrd of blog commenting.

  9. Do you have a link for that?

  10. Jason330 says:

    Mike – I’ll email you what I got.

  11. Jason330 says:

    Dave has the full press release up.

    http://delawarepolitics.net/

  12. Sagacious Steve says:

    Depending on who runs for the seat, it could open up another House seat for the D’s to challenge. At first glance, I think Valihura, Lavelle and Hudson all live in the 4th SD. Or maybe Dallas Winslow makes a comeback?

  13. Al Mascitti says:

    Steve: Why would any of them abandon the House majority — and there’s still a chance it will remain in GOP hands after November — for a position in the Senate minority? GOP senators remind me of the quote from one of the minority-stake owners of the Yankees: “There’s nothing so limited as being a limited partner of George Steinbrenner.”

  14. Jason330 says:

    Dave has posted that Michael Fleming has already filed to run for Copeland’s seat.

  15. Jason330 says:

    I can’t get my head around the fact that Liberalgeek is beating Donviti by six votes.

  16. Sagacious Steve says:

    Al: Two reasons. 4 years vs. 2 years. And, in the case of Lavelle and Valihura, they have competitive districts whereas the 4th SD is a stone-cold R lock.

  17. Al Mascitti says:

    Steve: I don’t think either Rep you name is in the game for just a paycheck. The fact is they can’t get anything done in the Senate, while they can get something done in the House. And I don’t think either one is scared of a challenger. Their incumbency probably will trump the Democratic tidal wave we’ll see in November.

  18. Jas,

    He is rigging the votes! there is no paper trail! This voting thing is another example of his darkside!

    I’m getting ready to pull in reinforcements soon!

  19. Sagacious Steve says:

    Al: You may be right. My take is that Valihura and Hudson are both creatures of the House, and have learned how to effectively function over there, whether in the majority or the minority.

    Lavelle strikes me as a different sort altogether. His ego is the sort that would impel him towards a promotion, regardless of ‘effectiveness’. That’s just my take, but I think a lot of legislators on both sides of the aisle would agree with me. There is a lot of bipartisan eye-rolling when he begins to pontificate on the floor.

    Plus (a) you can’t overstate how much more attractive a 4-year term is than a 2-year term.

    And here’s another major factor to consider: With Copeland, Still and Amick all leaving, he could have quite an impact in the Senate in this way: Republican senators have spots on all the money committees, and there will almost certainly be fewer R senators to compete with for those slots. Plus, Copeland was the Senate Minority Leader, so that slot is open as well. The path to power is less circuitous in the Senate for R’s than it is in the House b/c there are so few of them.

  20. My first thought was that we have recently been told of a number of high profile DE GOPers who have temporarily gone DEM to vote (presumably) for a gub. primary candidate.
    They are obviously switching back in time for the general election. Is there some advantage for GOP to back one or the other DEM as long as they have a Lee/Copeland ticket to go with in November?
    Can we assume that all the money that Centreville wouldn’t shovel at Bill Lee before was the bargaining chip for Charlie’s second mate bid? And best of all, we can all vote for Charlie in November no matter what candidate we want for governor.

    Loudell is just now on the radio asking Copeland why not run for governor….heh. Because he probably has a better shot at securing the office as second mate uncoupled from the top seat choice?

  21. Little Birdie says... says:

    I was stunned when I read the results…not to worry Donihoni I got your back and Matt Denn’s too. You can hear Matt talking about BWW at every candidate event up and down the state

  22. jason330 says:

    Q. How much water has Copeland carried for McDowell and Delmarva Power this term?

    A. So much water that his arms are two inches longer than they were befor the session started.

    All of Copeland hijinx will be laid out here over the next two weeks.

  23. Al Mascitti says:

    Steve: What you see as ego, I see as outspokenness, and in my business, that’s a good thing. I don’t think he’s shooting for one of the budget-committee jobs; unlike so many of his colleagues, he has a real job he shows up to, and I doubt the extra money for the extra duties would make up the difference.

    ” you can’t overstate how much more attractive a 4-year term is than a 2-year term.”

    You’re right there. I’m still adjusting my thinking from the days when an entrenched rep was often as not elected unopposed.a

  24. liz allen says:

    Water carriers for DPL, the insurance companies..nothing like trying for the two top jobs….much easier to control the State from the top!

  25. Dana Garrett says:

    I remember Loudell saying that Lee is is anti-BWW. Just imagine this race:

    Lee & Copeland running on the Pro Delmarva Power Profits ticket

    Markell/Carney & Denn running on the Responsible Wind-Power ticket.

    Or a better way to envision it:

    * Lee & Copeland running on the Pro Cancer Cluster Ticket

    * Markell/Carney & Denn running on the We Care about You Ticket.

    Yes, it will be a great year for the people of DE. Next January we’ll be rid of Charlie Copeland.

    Let’s just hope that whatever is left of the Senate Repub caucus will have the good sense this time to vote for a minority leader who not only runs on open government but REALLY attempts to keep his/her promise to enact it once in office.

  26. Dana Garrett says:

    “Lavelle strikes me as a different sort altogether. His ego is the sort that would impel him towards a promotion, regardless of ‘effectiveness’.”

    Steve,

    Lavelle will be getting a promotion after this year. Valihura has–ahem–issues and he will have a Dem opponent that will beat him. Valihura’s defeat will enable Lavelle to move into the Biggest Gas-Bag House Repub position next year.

  27. Bopeep says:

    Senator Copout is giving up a safe seat to get his ass handed to him Matt Denn then run with the bar stool judge? This don’t make any sense. The GOP couldn’t come up with money when bar stool ran last time. It took the GOP gov. association’s money to help him out. Bar stool is very long in the tooth to be doing this. Besides, the GOP spent over $200,000 that should have went to their AG candidate but was spent against Protack. The Greenville Gang hasn’t managed their party well so what makes them think they are to be trusted to run the state government? 3,700 registered democrat to interfear into the democrats internal affairs and they can’t even get rid of the dead weight like Rakestraw & Strine. Sick state of affaires.

  28. jason330 says:

    Welcome back Bo.

  29. Little Birdie says... says:

    Greg Lavelle is Terrific!

    I fantasize how it would have been had he run run & won a city council seat….our loss.

  30. Little Birdie says... says:

    Greg Lavelle is Terrific!

    I fantasize how it would have been had he run & won that at-large city council seat….our loss.

  31. RickJ says:

    “Besides, the GOP spent over $200,000 that should have went to their AG candidate but was spent against Protack. “

    Prove that. Prove that ridiculous lie. I know of a radio ad where Protack’s past was brought up to remind voters of how destructive he is. It was not a national ad, so I’m guessing that ran about $3000.

  32. FSP says:

    Kinko’s in the house!

  33. I grew up with the Lavelle family up in Brandywine Hundred and it seems like most of them still live there. I don’t get the ‘run for city council’ bit.

    He is not driven by ego, IMO, but issues, sure.

    ~
    I disagree with any fantasy that Valihura isn’t a solid lock for his seat going into the future. That is just more bull from good old what’shisname who hasn’t called an election yet.

  34. FSP says:

    Lavelle is the best Rep in the House. Period.

  35. Lavelle is the best Rep in the House. Period.

    Okay. Well, I guess that argument is done. Next?

    Explanation: This comment is simply a small, Saturday-morning snark prompted by nothing more than the apparent definitiveness of Mr. Burris’ 8:28 am comment. It is not intended as a serious rebuttal, nor should it be taken as any sort of challenge to Mr. Lavelle, Mr. Burris or anyone else. I have to go mow the lawn now.

  36. jason330 says:

    In your face Burris!

  37. FSP says:

    Prius -drivin’, lawn-mowin’ hippie! Why I oughta….

  38. Dana Garrett says:

    “I disagree with any fantasy that Valihura isn’t a solid lock for his seat going into the future. That is just more bull from good old what’shisname who hasn’t called an election yet.”

    This from a blogger who LIED about John Kowalko recently. Told an outright, damnable and provable lie! But then that is her custom: to lie about candidates.

    Oh, I don’t tend to call races. I support candidates which is a difference understood by anyone who’s gray-matter doesn’t reek of vinegar.

    But I called Kowalko beating what’s-her-name & but you LIED about him.

  39. Geezer says:

    Dana, if you’d let Nancy comment on your blog, you could hold these festivities over there. It gets tiresome to have thread after thread elsewhere hijacked by name-calling between you and your lengthening list of enemies.

  40. Sagacious Steve says:

    Greg Lavelle lived for a long time in the Browntown/Hedgeville section of Wilmington. From what I know, his parents were city born and bred and they were Democrats.

    Now, the real reason for my post is that I honestly think that the Copeland move is brilliant, and here’s why.

    He rescues the party from the brink of irrelevance for this election. He knows a D is getting elected Guv this year regardless, so the Party is immediately his bitch. He can do anything he wants.

    If he loses his Lt. Gov race, he still gets props for propping up the doddering and reluctant Bill Lee, and maybe rescuing an iffy legislative race or two in the process. Should he win, he gets to contrast his ‘open government’ mantra with the shady dealings of the State Senate virtually every day they’re in session.

    He can run for Gov. in 4 years, especially if Carney continues down the directionless road that Minner/Carney has us on. He can run for Congress if Castle decides to retire.

    I see no downside for Copeland whatsoever. As someone who appreciates how the game is played, I think this is one of the coolest moves I’ve ever seen in Delaware politics.

  41. selander says:

    Sagacious indeed.

    Charlie doesn’t need to go back next year to a smaller caucus (assuming the Amick and Still seats become D) and can prepare for his next statewide bid without four more years of tough votes on his record as the state solves its current financial crisis.

  42. Anonymous says:

    Steve, if he runs for Castles seat, he still has to beat the Markell/Carney loser or Biden Jr. He’s not a sure lock for that seat.

  43. Sagacious Steve says:

    You’re right, Anonymous. But he’s at the head of the R class, would certainly get Castle’s blessing, and wouldn’t have to battle through a competitive primary, something that is not guaranteed on the D side.

  44. Your points on Copeland are moot as he will get wiped up with either Denn or Blunt. 60-40% easily.

    Copeland has no record of getting anything done on anything-zero. If he was not a DuPont no one would care and in reality no one does. He has been a failure in the Senate- a total nothing.

    Good old and I do mean old Bill Lee ( 74) – he spent all last month trashing the party in the News Journal and now is the guy to save it? The mere fact that clowns like Dave Burris and Prisiclla back him tells you he is a total loser, in fact a three time loser.

    Copeland is against BWW-that alone is enough for no one to support him. The Dems own this state because the Republican party leadership is full of idiots and has beens.

  45. FSP says:

    I feel a pink postcard coming on.

  46. Garrettimous, I actually WORKED for the defeat of the horrendous Ulbrich. D’OH.
    As for what is or isn’t true about Kowalko, why, I am sure to see the in depth details over on Delaware Watch.

  47. So Saggie, I take it you are solidly in the Markell camp?:
    “directionless road that Minner/Carney has us on”

    Spit it. Markell has had an elected office over finances and look at where DE finances ARE NOW!!!

    I am still torn between the two. There just is not enough difference between them to garner a judgement yet.
    Are they willing to divest from the heavily-laden school administration’s pot-o-gold?
    Are they willing to divest from the heavily-laden construction industry that strong-holds the DE DEMs to endless and expensive (for the non-construction industry who pays for the) construction industry?
    Are they willing to divest from the education bureaucracy in general?
    Are they willing to divest from the special interests that absorb the loyalties of the party CORE POWER that both of them court.
    Let’s not kid ourselves. As a DEM I am not thowing my vote to a GOPer but there is no choice as yet clear on the gubernatorial front for the states many democrats, IMHO.

  48. alongline says:

    Well, Copeland has lots of opportunities, but no easy wins. Some statewide openings now or possibly upcoming:

    2008 – Governor
    2010 – Castle? (if not, 2012)
    2012- Carper?
    2014 – Biden?
    2016 – Governor

    Dems already in major office available to run for those openings if/when they happen: Blunt/Denn, B. Biden, Coons, Carney/Markell

  49. RickJ19958 says:

    I haven’t checked yet – does RepublicansForTruth’s hyperlink go to Kinkos.com?

  50. jason330 says:

    Sagacious’ (#41) is spot on.

    This is long rang planning for Copeland. The key to everything is getting Bill Lee on the ticket. He can run around the state having the GOP torch passed to him at event after event.

    Also, Lee would keep some of the Markell voters onboard so Copeland’s margin of defeat would be simply embarrassing instead of ridiculously embarrassing.

  51. I concur with #50 and #51

  52. Kilroy Was Here says:

    Nancy Willing
    ” Markell has had an elected office over finances and look at where DE finances ARE NOW!!!”

    Isn’t his name stamped on every state check?
    Where is Markells position on open transparent government? The question before the house is, will Markell clean the Minner cabinets! We know for sure the GOP would ! Yea, yea put all the crooks in there! To steal what! The current democrat crooks cleaned us out !

    I’ve been fired up late at Markell because he talls about bring more quality teachers to our schools when we’re laying off quality teachers becauase on Minernomics.

  53. Dana Garrett says:

    “Dana, if you’d let Nancy comment on your blog, you could hold these festivities over there. It gets tiresome to have thread after thread elsewhere hijacked by name-calling between you and your lengthening list of enemies.”

    Do try not to be so sexist in these homilies, will you? Any impartial observer of the pattern will see, as here (comment #34), Ms. Willing drew first blood. She attacked me HERE; I responded HERE. But I get the admonishments.

  54. Dana Garrett says:

    Did anyone notice Dave Burris’ post about the possible–what?–Dem plot to Copeland’s print shop aflame:

    http://delawarepolitics.net/2008/04/26/the-increasing-value-of-copper-and-other-coincidences/

    Yes, there you have it: Dave Burris a full-fledged paranoid OR the worst possible kind of smear merchant.

  55. Anon says:

    Did Dave Burris attack you here too?

    I don’t speak for the owner of this blog, but I agree with Geezer. Get lost, freak.

  56. FSP says:

    Dana Garrett doesn’t “get lost”, anon. He’s like a permanent incurable cancer on the face of the Delaware blogosphere.

    Just ignore him. It’s best for everyone.

    The post he references was clearly made in jest, but he has a filthy obsession with bringing me down, and he sees everything through that lens.

  57. Dana Garrett says:

    “The post he references was clearly made in jest,”

    LOL! Bull! So that’s how you are spinning it now that someone called you on your filthy Rove-like smear and you are embarrassed.

    You can’t believe the calls I have received about your appalling new low in smear politics. What shard of respect you still had from truly respectable people is (or will soon be) lost for good. Your post is buzzing through many DE-related e-mail lists. And I’m not the one who has sent them.

    You should write an apology to your readers for engaging in such TRANSPARENT smear tactics.

  58. FSP says:

    “You can’t believe the calls I have received about your appalling new low in smear politics. What shard of respect you still had from truly respectable people is (or will soon be) lost for good. Your post is buzzing through many DE-related e-mail lists. And I’m not the one who has sent them.”

    I don’t care. Not one remote, tiny bit.

  59. FSP says:

    I should go all Dana Garrett on you and say “Prove it. Prove where I said that politics was involved in the crime at Copeland’s business.”

    But that’s how YOU operate. I don’t care.

  60. Dana Garrett says:

    “I should go all Dana Garrett on you and say “Prove it. Prove where I said that politics was involved in the crime at Copeland’s business.”

    What you SHOULD do first before you try to smear me out of your humiliation is PROVE where I STATED ” politics was involved in the crime at Copeland’s business.”

    I said:

    But saddest of all is how the party’s desperate condition engenders paranoid delusions among its true believers, in one case moving a GOP blogger to write a blog post heavily suggesting that someone would want (much less find his party’s unaccomplished Lt. Governor candidate even remotely threatening enough) to burglarize his place of business”

  61. Al Mascitti says:

    FWIW, I don’t think Dave was blaming a Democrat. Think, Dana — who would be really upset about Copeland entering the race and dragging Bill Lee with him. Hint — it probably brings the color pink to Dave’s mind.

  62. Dana Garrett says:

    “FWIW, I don’t think Dave was blaming a Democrat.”

    Oh, he was blaming Protack. That makes it all OK then. Is that what you are saying?

    I still think it was the Dems he intended in his use of the Reichstag fire smear technique.

    It’s time people start facing the truth about Dave. He’s a partisan hit man in the tradition of Karl Rove.

  63. Lookin’ in the mirror again, Dana?

  64. Brian says:

    “color pink to Dave’s mind.”

    Al- did you just bring up “code pink” while you were speaking in your secret radical code with Dana….or are you calling Dave a pinko commie again…..just kidding…. hope you both have a great weekend….. Dave too….

  65. Dana Garrett says:

    “Lookin’ in the mirror again, Dana?”

    Hi Liar:

    http://delawarepolitics.net/2008/04/24/transparency-bills-clear-step-one

    You, Dave–it’s so easy, like shooting fish in a barrel.

  66. FSP says:

    It’s funny. You call Nancy Willing a liar, yet you currently claim on your site that Copeland “literally has not had one of his own bills enacted during his ENTIRE tenure in office (unlike his Republican colleagues in the state senate).”

    That is a bald-faced lie. And someone even pointed it out to you on your site, with evidence, yet you have not edited your post to remove the lie.

    Pot, meet kettle.

    Hypocrite.

  67. R Smitty says:

    The psyche here is so interesting. In #66, he responds to Nancy Willing in addressing her comment, yet he directs it at Dave.

    This has the makings of a great case study.

  68. Dana Garrett says:

    “That is a bald-faced lie. And someone even pointed it out to you on your site, with evidence, yet you have not edited your post to remove the lie.”

    No, it’s not. It’s a mistake resulting from an ambiguous source at the News Journal. I will correct it tonight before I go to bed in a new post about the Reichstag fire. Events today didn’t give me the time to attend to it in a manner it deserves.

    Besides, I do want to review those (snark) very impt. pieces of legislation like giving the authority to someone to marry a couple.

    I noticed that Copeland is only trusted w/ legislation that involve no public expenditure! LOL! He’s too incompetent to be trusted w/ anything else.

    But NOW let’s talk about you. I made an understandable mistake. But you suggested a vicious smear about a possible political motivation for a fire based on no evidence whatsoever except your evident belief that such an innuendo is justified because the ends justify the means.

    You are pig and we both know it. 😉

  69. Dana Garrett says:

    “The psyche here is so interesting. In #66, he responds to Nancy Willing in addressing her comment, yet he directs it at Dave.
    This has the makings of a great case study.”

    Smitty,

    Your man-crush on Dave makes you an idiot, makes you the case study. The link I provided goes to Nancy’s comment on Dave’s post. It’s HER comment.

    But you didn’t follow the link, did you. You just saw it went to Dave’s site and thought it referred to him. How much more do you think refers to Dave, Smitty? How much revolves around him for you.

    Your analysis shows just how sick you are about, Dave.

    Let me make it easy for you, Dave’s Lickspittle. Here’s what (note) NANCY said:

    “Did John Kowalko happen to mention that his wife is one of the 100K plus paid newish administrative positions that Joe Wise contracted in the Christiana School district while removing from said contracts the ability of the district to dump them if finances got tight? Just sayin.
    I like John a lot, an awful lot. But this is an area where he might be seen as protecting his own and that is the kind of grey area of ethics and disclosure that I find important to place on the table.
    I am very disappointed that someone who fights for so much that the public needs would stand in the way of opening our government pocketbook to public scrutiny.

    Perhaps I had better get his views in person and not latch onto this third hand.”

  70. RSmitty says:

    You, Dave–it’s so easy, like shooting fish in a barrel.

    Looks like you are addressing Dave in your closing. Maybe you meant You AND Dave?

    My comment has nothing to do with a “man-crush,” which it’s eerily apparent to be what truly motivates you to want to spank him so badly. My comment became a manner of semantics, something I was poking a stick at, which can’t bode well for a genius-blogger such as yourself. Not really a big deal, but look at the tirade it put you on.

    At least I can openly admit I am a friend of Dave’s and will be side-by-side to him during your attacks. You, on the other hand, must be awful lonely being in the Dave-closet, covering it up with your spanking attempts.

  71. FSP says:

    Dana Garrett at #61:

    “What you SHOULD do first before you try to smear me out of your humiliation is PROVE where I STATED ” politics was involved in the crime at Copeland’s business.””

    Dana Garrett at #69:

    “But you suggested a vicious smear about a possible political motivation for a fire based on no evidence whatsoever except your evident belief that such an innuendo is justified because the ends justify the means.”

    There. Proven.

  72. Dana Garrett says:

    Burris,

    You are an idiot:

    “is PROVE where I STATED ” politics was involved in the crime at Copeland’s business.””

    See the word “STATED”. I put it in caps precisely to help your oafish intellect.

    So this is what you offer as evidence:

    “But you suggested a vicious smear about a possible political motivation for a fire based on no evidence whatsoever ….”

    See that word “suggested,” Oaf? “Suggested” does not equal “stated.”

    So all you’ve proved is that you try to distract and mislead your way out of any attention focusing on your dirty political tricks.

    So when are you going to apology to your readers, Dave, for your yellow journalism?

    You will never apologize. And you know what, a person can count on your egotism & stubbornness to keep you from doing so.

    One can also count on how your failure to take responsibility for your dirty tricks will come back to bite you in the rear.

    You checkmated yourself long ago.

  73. Dana Garrett says:

    “At least I can openly admit I am a friend of Dave’s and will be side-by-side to him during your attacks. You, on the other hand, must be awful lonely being in the Dave-closet, covering it up with your spanking attempts.”

    Enjoy your online friendships. I prefer mine when the person sits across the room from me.

  74. Pandora says:

    …across the room??? Won’t they get any closer?

  75. The link I provided goes to Nancy’s comment on Dave’s post. It’s HER comment.
    *
    Still waiting for you to PROVE that this is a LIE Dana. Not a whisper from you, not a scent of the gas that fires your sick, sick brain cells.

  76. RickJ19958 says:

    Dana, is the crux of your point that you SUGGESTED something rather than STATED it? That a pretty rotten argument. Let’s just say that everyone understood your broad, ham-handed suggestion, thinks the suggestion is ridiculous, and move on.

  77. RSmitty says:

    Damn, you are fun.

    Lessee…Dave lives in Sussex and I in New Castle. Hmm, not exactly the across-the-room opportunities there, Genius Blogger. On the other hand, we don’t need such reassurances to make sure everything is okie-dokie. I know you are aware of telephone technology, Spanky.

    Dave and I don’t agree all the time, despite what I think is your perception. We’ve debated quite a few times. Never have I felt a need to throw him under the bus or subscribe to a mission to destroy his life.

    The more you speak of my standing with a friend, the more I am starting to realize how you could stand to know about trusting in people and the bigger picture. If only people who are ‘across the room’ from you can be friends, then I honestly feel sorry for you.

  78. Al Mascitti says:

    Dana: I guess if someone just hints at an accusation, we’re free to fill in the target. I choose Pinky.

  79. RSmitty says:

    Wasn’t she the Fonz’ girlfriend? 🙂

  80. Al Mascitti says:

    Not the Fonz who frequents DelLib. Carney is his girlfriend.

  81. Dana Garrett says:

    Smitty,

    Dave is a big boy and doesn’t need you to come to his defense. That you always do speaks for itself.

  82. Dana Garrett says:

    RickJ,

    Why are you asking me questions? Dave is the one who suggested something so scandalous that Al Mascitti felt compelled to ask Copeland about it on the air.

    That’s what DAVE instigated w/ his poisonous post…yet you are interrogating me. Now THAT is weird.

    Talk about screwed up values.

  83. Dana Garrett says:

    “Still waiting for you to PROVE that this is a LIE Dana. ”

    You already received 2 e-mails about it from one of the offended parties, you disgusting pig.

    Don’t worry. You are next. It seems this week will given to dealing w/ the vermin.

  84. FSP says:

    Copeland confirmed that someone cut the power to his business, and that it was suggested by the police that the motive was copper — exactly what was in my post. (Still looking for where I promoted the idea that there was political mischief involved.)

    I have a host of people coming to my defense, yet you never have anyone coming to yours. Even more, you have people telling you to go away.

    Take their advice.

  85. RickJ19958 says:

    Dana,

    I’m not interrogating anyone. He basically asked “Isn’t that a coincidence?” It turns out the answer is probably “Yes, it is.”

    The whole matter probably doesn’t rise to the level where Nazi-ism needs to be invoked.

  86. jason330 says:

    If the question is…Did Dave post that item thinking that there was a possibility that Mike Protack boosters had something to do with what happened at Copeland’s?

    I think we can all agree that – yes – Dave was thinking that it was a possibility.

    BTW – In that usage, “Host” means an army of angels. Just sayin.

  87. FSP says:

    “army of angels.”

    I agree. They are.

  88. Dana, you are a coward and a fool. Those who follow your lead are just as lost.
    If Kowalko has to hide behind your evil butt, he is not the man I thought he was.

  89. jason330 says:

    Nancy,

    I’m not stepping into a pissing contest, but you really are treading close to a line with that.

    I don’t see Kowalko hiding behind anyone. I see him being the state rep that his district elected him to be.

  90. Well, Jason.
    John Kowalko sent me two emails this weekend neither of which was copied to Dana Garrett.
    So, unless Dana Garrett has powers unknown to most of us, then Kowalko is indeed using Garrett to hide behind here.
    I mentioned something on a blog that I had thought was true. Why wasn’t it refuted there if there was another side to tell that could stand scrutiny?
    Garrett is the one who keeps bringing shit up about me that is outrageous bull.
    I just phoned Kowalko and read him what Dana Garrett is saying about me on his behalf. And I sent him an email with the link to this blog post so that he can decide if he wants to allow Garrett to drag him into this pile of dung.
    If he does, I reminded him that we live in the same town and that there will be a very unpleasant outcome if he continues to let Garrett jihad against me on his behalf.
    It is one thing to talk about Charlie Potter and all of the harm he has done to innocent people on the east side of Wilmington. It is quite another thing to attack me on my turf.
    That this is your turf makes it your call, and if your partisan nature should lead you to do so, then by all means, delete this message.

  91. jason330 says:

    I have no idea what you are talking about so deleting the comment would not serve any purpose.

  92. Dana Garrett says:

    “I mentioned something on a blog that I had thought was true. Why wasn’t it refuted there if there was another side to tell that could stand scrutiny?”

    Yes, Nancy, he sent you two e-mails correcting your mistake and you never went back to correct it on that comment thread. Why haven’t you corrected it? Because you are a sleaze merchant and get a thrill in leaving your libels uncorrected on the blogosphere.

    I called Kowalko about your libel in the comments as well as Burris misleading and erroneous post about what happened at that hearing.

    Your lie about Kowalko’s wife’s job (SHE DOESN’T EVEN WORK THERE) clearly found a welcome home in Burris’ cesspool of falsehoods and misinformation.

  93. Dana Garrett says:

    “Did Dave post that item thinking that there was a possibility that Mike Protack boosters had something to do with what happened at Copeland’s?

    I think we can all agree that – yes – Dave was thinking that it was a possibility. ”

    Yes, anyone could see that was his suggestion. Protack or the Dems set the fire.

    But poor Dave got humiliated yesterday because Copeland gave no credence whatsoever to the conspiracy theory. I recorded it.

    I wonder what will happen now. Will the Senate GOP caucus haul his but before them about his dirty tricks just like the House GOP caucus did this year and tell him to lay off?

    Behavior like Burris’ post and his arrogance while he’s Leg Hall are the reasons why all but 5 GOP legs find Dave to be an embarrassment and liability to the party and their efforts.

    He’s a blowhard that even the legislative staff find comical.

  94. anon says:

    You don’t get it Dana. Lee doesn’t want to get dirty running against Protack, and Dave is the hatchet man appointed (or self-appointed) to take Protack out. But it ain’t working.

  95. FSP says:

    Dana — Why won’t anyone publicly back you up on any of your claims about me? Besides the ones that are provably lies, that is.

    Like this one:

    “just like the House GOP caucus did this year and tell him to lay off”

    That is a lie. I have never been “hauled” before anyone and told to lay off. Prove it happened.

    Is there some Guiness Book “Most lies told about one person” record you’re trying to break?

  96. Dana Garrett says:

    YOU are talking about other people lying?

    What a freaking joke. You allege and suggest horseshit all the time w/ providing proof more than anyone I know.

    You don’t deserve the consideration you almost never give to others.

  97. dana,

    do you mean when dave says stuff like,

    I’m sure Copeland knows that the documents in question will show that he had nothing to do with Speck other than attending one breakfast meeting in a crowded restaurant with a bunch of other people.

    I can find more. It’s not that hard to back you up

  98. RSmitty says:

    So, Genius Blogger, you can connect dots and form your own conclusions and it’s OK to publish in front of all, but for anyone else to do that, it’s all falsehoods and lies?

    We’ll never be able to convince you of where you’re wrong, but I will at least say it to your plugged up ears (figuratively speaking, of course). While we obviously have issues with some (not all) of Protack’s supporters and the man himself, there isn’t one of us that would suspect them of vandalism.

    Ah, don’t let that stop you, though. Your mission has become very apparent to destroy Burris’ life, so go ahead while we watch your swings and jabs.

    Do you dream about him in any form, whether it be nightmares of liking him or wet ones of burying him? I just wonder how much of your day is spent with Dave on your mind.

    Sincerely,
    Lickspittle

  99. Dana Garrett says:

    “there isn’t one of us that would suspect them of vandalism”

    “one of us” How interesting. It’s Dave’s post, but you include yourself in it. Is your identity so enmeshed w/ Dave’s that his actions are somehow identical to yours in your sycophantic mind?

    Now as to your point. I don’t think Dave believes Protack committed vandalism or anyone else did as a political act. I believe he intended to create the suspicion that someone did it as a political act.

    I suspect Dave often states and suggests many things he either knows not to be true or believes is not true in the realm of local & state politics.

    Sincerity isn’t a relevant consideration most often w/ people like Dave, but their Machiavellian purposes are.

  100. FSP says:

    Convenient distraction from being caught in a lie, Garrett.

    You don’t have to admit you lied. You got caught red-handed. It’s crystal clear to all.

  101. Dana Garrett says:

    Hottest,

    Yes, good example.

    Let’s face it. Copeland can take positions on things he knows Adams will never allow. That’s easy for him to do. Like SB4. He was for it, but when it came time to actually get it out for a vote, Copeland tucked his tail between his legs and headed for the hills.

    The Repubs want to run on open government. They sure as hell don’t want to enact it.

  102. FSP says:

    Seriously, you don’t have to admit you got caught red-handed lying about me again. Feel free to completely ignore it.

  103. Dana Garrett, the biggest fool on the intertubes wants to call everyone out!!!

    You troll the intertubes creating ‘files’ on me that you then distribute to create ‘disturbances of great import’ like an idiotic ‘spy vs spy’ routine.

    To you, my comments were an insidious PLOT and ACTIVE LIES blah blah blah. As I said, I wrote what I thought was STILL true. All you are offering is that it is no longer true that she is employed in such a capacity.

    And Dana. A reasonable person would, when a correction should be made, MAKE IT. Why didn’t you print a correction if you thought one was warranted? Your ‘spy vs spy’ program was instead to hustle this EVENT to Kowalko and lurk in the dark shadows in order to savor what your insipid imagination was a grand gotcha of one of your ‘evil enemies’ yours truly.

    If you were in the least bit normal, you would have corrected what I wrote in the spirit in which it was written. Not once will you, and evidently John Kowalko, deny the facts that Dave wrote about his adamant stand against transparency. That is what I find most curious here. That is all that is relevant here. The notion of ethics was tangental to the post topic which your unnecessary and idiotic rantings have tried to divert away from is that Kowalko was not acting in my best interests here.

    Mrs. Kowalko may have left the CSD, that does not change that fact that she sat on the school board when Joe Wise was hired and that she voted for many of the actions that took the school district into ruin and that she took a fat cat job from the sleazoid guy that she helped hire. There is not much there to be proud of IMHO and my taxes are paying for those mistakes and the kids in my district are paying for those mistakes.

    So do go on Dana Garrett with your ‘spy games’ but if you want respect and not just the union money that you are most likely collecting for your contortuous antics, then simply feed into the intertube conversations as a part of the blogging community and stop being an adversary.

    John is a big boy. If he had information that countered what I believed to be true (and he did because you obviously chose to feed him your NANCY IS AN EVIL BITCH file) then he should have just written it into the record or asked you to do so.

    You both are showing some pretty strange behavior here.

  104. If any of this information about Mrs. Kowlko is incorrect than I will apologize. That is my understanding but I was not active in local politics when the most horrible and criminal and unethical Mr. Wise was hired by my district’s school board so I am merely repeating what was relayed to me.
    John has no problem commenting on these blogs when it suits him and I can’t understand why he feels that he has to act through Dana Garrett on this subject. I am not offering this to offend but rather as one offended.

  105. For the record, Dana Garrett continues to lie about me, what I have said and impugns my integrity and purports to know what is in my heart. He is doing exactly what he claims of others here:

    I suspect Dave often states and suggests many things he either knows not to be true or believes is not true in the realm of local & state politics.

    ~
    Dana Garrett often states and suggests many things that he either knows not to be true or believes is not true in the realm of local and state politics.