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		<title>By: Outside The Perimeter: &#34;&#8230;And the Winner is&#8230;&#34; &#171; kavips</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/04/15/wind-power-is-the-ethical-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-45772</link>
		<dc:creator>Outside The Perimeter: &#34;&#8230;And the Winner is&#8230;&#34; &#171; kavips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 22:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The &#8220;kavipsian&#8221; Awards &#171; kavips</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/04/15/wind-power-is-the-ethical-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-40705</link>
		<dc:creator>The &#8220;kavipsian&#8221; Awards &#171; kavips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sumner</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/04/15/wind-power-is-the-ethical-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-30043</link>
		<dc:creator>Sumner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dana, and others who believe that economics should solely determine our fate in this decision:

It&#039;s this very short-sighted, myopic vision of the world that has gotten us into this blasted mess in the first place.  All of the things that renewable energy projects like the Bluewater project are trying to correct stem from the wholly inadequate, and frankly immoral, way that economics has a way of EXTERNALIZING all of the difficult costs of doing business-- such things as air, water and land emissions from the manufacture of any number of goods.  Or the emissions associated with the burning of ANY fossil fuel.   How about the massive costs to Appalachian communities and ecosystems (some of the most valuable ecosystems in North America, mind you) that come from the extraction of coal for our existing fleet of power plants?

If economics properly considered all of these costs, NONE of us would be worried about the few cents per KwH that separate today&#039;s power choices from cleaner ones like Bluewater&#039;s offer.  It&#039;s no skin off my back if you decide not to invest in such things as Bluewater Wind for your own investments; BUT, when we all breathe the same air and live on the same land, WE ALL have a responsibility to make the safest choice-- not just the cheapest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dana, and others who believe that economics should solely determine our fate in this decision:</p>
<p>It&#8217;s this very short-sighted, myopic vision of the world that has gotten us into this blasted mess in the first place.  All of the things that renewable energy projects like the Bluewater project are trying to correct stem from the wholly inadequate, and frankly immoral, way that economics has a way of EXTERNALIZING all of the difficult costs of doing business&#8211; such things as air, water and land emissions from the manufacture of any number of goods.  Or the emissions associated with the burning of ANY fossil fuel.   How about the massive costs to Appalachian communities and ecosystems (some of the most valuable ecosystems in North America, mind you) that come from the extraction of coal for our existing fleet of power plants?</p>
<p>If economics properly considered all of these costs, NONE of us would be worried about the few cents per KwH that separate today&#8217;s power choices from cleaner ones like Bluewater&#8217;s offer.  It&#8217;s no skin off my back if you decide not to invest in such things as Bluewater Wind for your own investments; BUT, when we all breathe the same air and live on the same land, WE ALL have a responsibility to make the safest choice&#8211; not just the cheapest.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria Evans</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/04/15/wind-power-is-the-ethical-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-29923</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unsuckered sounds  just  like David C. Young who wrote an op-ed piece in the News Journal today that mirrors Unsuckered blog comments. 

http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080416/OPINION10/80416007/1111 

If you google David C. Young from Wilmington, he turns out to have a background as a &quot;Senior Engineer&quot; for none other than CONECTIV.   

http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&amp;rls=en&amp;q=%22david+c.+young%22+delaware&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8

I&#039;d certainly say something &quot;smells fishy.&quot;  And it&#039;s clearly Unsuckered and David C. Young.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unsuckered sounds  just  like David C. Young who wrote an op-ed piece in the News Journal today that mirrors Unsuckered blog comments. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080416/OPINION10/80416007/1111" rel="nofollow">http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080416/OPINION10/80416007/1111</a> </p>
<p>If you google David C. Young from Wilmington, he turns out to have a background as a &#8220;Senior Engineer&#8221; for none other than CONECTIV.   </p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&amp;rls=en&amp;q=%22david+c.+young%22+delaware&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&amp;rls=en&amp;q=%22david+c.+young%22+delaware&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;d certainly say something &#8220;smells fishy.&#8221;  And it&#8217;s clearly Unsuckered and David C. Young.</p>
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		<title>By: donviti</title>
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		<dc:creator>donviti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>me thinks dana should stop investing his money b/c he has a lot to learn about utilities</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>me thinks dana should stop investing his money b/c he has a lot to learn about utilities</p>
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		<title>By: jason330</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/04/15/wind-power-is-the-ethical-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-29906</link>
		<dc:creator>jason330</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dana, 

The arguments you seek are linked to in the first sentence of the post. 

I&#039;m not sure you are familiar with how the web work, but you can link to items rather than repeating them. 

As for Delamarva needing a &quot;reason&quot; to support wind power, it has one.  A good one.  The PSC told it to - and Delmarva is not a regular old private corporation. It is a public utility with guaranteed profits.  So it has to do what the PSC says.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dana, </p>
<p>The arguments you seek are linked to in the first sentence of the post. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure you are familiar with how the web work, but you can link to items rather than repeating them. </p>
<p>As for Delamarva needing a &#8220;reason&#8221; to support wind power, it has one.  A good one.  The PSC told it to &#8211; and Delmarva is not a regular old private corporation. It is a public utility with guaranteed profits.  So it has to do what the PSC says.</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Jason&#039;s and Donviti&#039;s comments above (#s 16 and 17), ought I to assume that they &lt;i&gt;don&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; have an economic argument in favor of their position?

Because if there is no economic advantage to Delmarva Power in wind power, there is absolutely no reason to assume that they&#039;d support it.  

Jason, when I buy stock in a company, I am looking for a return on investment.  There are some &quot;green&quot; funds out there, and some &quot;Catholic values&quot; funds out there (Ave Maria Fund would be an example), but the object of investment is to make money, period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Jason&#8217;s and Donviti&#8217;s comments above (#s 16 and 17), ought I to assume that they <i>don&#8217;t</i> have an economic argument in favor of their position?</p>
<p>Because if there is no economic advantage to Delmarva Power in wind power, there is absolutely no reason to assume that they&#8217;d support it.  </p>
<p>Jason, when I buy stock in a company, I am looking for a return on investment.  There are some &#8220;green&#8221; funds out there, and some &#8220;Catholic values&#8221; funds out there (Ave Maria Fund would be an example), but the object of investment is to make money, period.</p>
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		<title>By: Unsuckered</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/04/15/wind-power-is-the-ethical-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-29897</link>
		<dc:creator>Unsuckered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 03:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now why would I have wanted to do that?

It&#039;s so much more fun watching you guys bust o-rings!!!!

I couldn&#039;t ask for a better duck decoy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now why would I have wanted to do that?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s so much more fun watching you guys bust o-rings!!!!</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t ask for a better duck decoy.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria Evans</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/04/15/wind-power-is-the-ethical-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-29896</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 03:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The law passed the House, Senate and was signed by the Governor all in one day, April 6, 2006, Sucker.  You should have been complaining about where the government was &quot;sticking its nose&quot; before they passed the law.

And HB 6 also gave us &quot;opt in&quot; and &quot;opt out&quot; pricing for the big 59% increase, I don&#039;t recall a bunch of complaints about the state telling DP&amp;L how to charge and bill their customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The law passed the House, Senate and was signed by the Governor all in one day, April 6, 2006, Sucker.  You should have been complaining about where the government was &#8220;sticking its nose&#8221; before they passed the law.</p>
<p>And HB 6 also gave us &#8220;opt in&#8221; and &#8220;opt out&#8221; pricing for the big 59% increase, I don&#8217;t recall a bunch of complaints about the state telling DP&amp;L how to charge and bill their customers.</p>
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		<title>By: Unsuckered</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/04/15/wind-power-is-the-ethical-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-29893</link>
		<dc:creator>Unsuckered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 02:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The difference is that the NJ isn&#039;t sticking its nose in the deal and ordering anyone to buy the power. They are leaving it a private matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference is that the NJ isn&#8217;t sticking its nose in the deal and ordering anyone to buy the power. They are leaving it a private matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria Evans</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/04/15/wind-power-is-the-ethical-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-29892</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 02:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sucker-BWW&#039;s NJ proposal is contingent on a long term power purchase agreement.  BWW has only said that about a million times, maybe if they posted it on the DP&amp;L website  you would have caught it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sucker-BWW&#8217;s NJ proposal is contingent on a long term power purchase agreement.  BWW has only said that about a million times, maybe if they posted it on the DP&amp;L website  you would have caught it.</p>
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		<title>By: Unsuckered</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/04/15/wind-power-is-the-ethical-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-29891</link>
		<dc:creator>Unsuckered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 02:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you admit that is smells FISHY!!!!!!!

I knew you&#039;d fess up.

Oh GOD, am I going to love watching this project burn off like a fart in a room full of over-caffeinated liberals.

All beans!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you admit that is smells FISHY!!!!!!!</p>
<p>I knew you&#8217;d fess up.</p>
<p>Oh GOD, am I going to love watching this project burn off like a fart in a room full of over-caffeinated liberals.</p>
<p>All beans!</p>
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		<title>By: jason330</title>
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		<dc:creator>jason330</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 02:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your red herring supply is bottomless.   What next?  Geothermal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your red herring supply is bottomless.   What next?  Geothermal?</p>
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		<title>By: Unsuckered</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/04/15/wind-power-is-the-ethical-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-29889</link>
		<dc:creator>Unsuckered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 02:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Monorail......MonoRAIL......MONORAIL!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaBe7bMOEL0

Didj&#039;ever think that maybe Bluewater is approaching it such a backassward way because they think a bunch of Delarubes are more likely to give them the state&#039;s ATM password?

I mean....why doesn&#039;t the NJ wind deal smell like this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monorail&#8230;&#8230;MonoRAIL&#8230;&#8230;MONORAIL!!!!!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaBe7bMOEL0" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaBe7bMOEL0</a></p>
<p>Didj&#8217;ever think that maybe Bluewater is approaching it such a backassward way because they think a bunch of Delarubes are more likely to give them the state&#8217;s ATM password?</p>
<p>I mean&#8230;.why doesn&#8217;t the NJ wind deal smell like this?</p>
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		<title>By: anonomous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonomous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dana,

Delmarva Power began to fight the awarding of the contract to BWW after a lengthy process and after their subsiderary companies -NRG and Connectiv - lost the bidding process. Delmarva Powers projections that fossil fuel prices will go down as a way to compare wind prices to future fossil fuel prices is comical. I think most people realize that fossil fuel prices are rising at alarming rates. And with increasing demands those prices are not likely to go down. For every KW BWW produces is a KW Pepco, NRG, Connectiv and thus Delmarva Power will not be able to profit from. They are all the same company looking out for all of their interests, not ours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dana,</p>
<p>Delmarva Power began to fight the awarding of the contract to BWW after a lengthy process and after their subsiderary companies -NRG and Connectiv &#8211; lost the bidding process. Delmarva Powers projections that fossil fuel prices will go down as a way to compare wind prices to future fossil fuel prices is comical. I think most people realize that fossil fuel prices are rising at alarming rates. And with increasing demands those prices are not likely to go down. For every KW BWW produces is a KW Pepco, NRG, Connectiv and thus Delmarva Power will not be able to profit from. They are all the same company looking out for all of their interests, not ours.</p>
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