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		<title>By: jason330</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/03/12/what-a-joke/#comment-27281</link>
		<dc:creator>jason330</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;No more Bush, no more wave. - Dave Burris&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m going write that down and keep it close in the event I ever need to cheer myself up over the next few months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>No more Bush, no more wave. &#8211; Dave Burris</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m going write that down and keep it close in the event I ever need to cheer myself up over the next few months.</p>
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		<title>By: FSP</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/03/12/what-a-joke/#comment-27280</link>
		<dc:creator>FSP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 17:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, for one, hope the Dems waste their time on Lavelle and Valihura. 

And there will be no wave this year. The wave was 2006, when people were voting D to send a message to Bush. No more Bush, no more wave. 

The Governor thing is a much bigger problem than any national wave. Especially the idea of the loser of the D primary running around and campaigning for down-ballot candidates for two months. 

That said, the historical evidence shows it&#039;s awful tough to unseat a legislative incumbent in a Presidential year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, for one, hope the Dems waste their time on Lavelle and Valihura. </p>
<p>And there will be no wave this year. The wave was 2006, when people were voting D to send a message to Bush. No more Bush, no more wave. </p>
<p>The Governor thing is a much bigger problem than any national wave. Especially the idea of the loser of the D primary running around and campaigning for down-ballot candidates for two months. </p>
<p>That said, the historical evidence shows it&#8217;s awful tough to unseat a legislative incumbent in a Presidential year.</p>
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		<title>By: Sagacious Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/03/12/what-a-joke/#comment-27278</link>
		<dc:creator>Sagacious Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 17:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Al, I agree that Valihura may be more vulnerable than Lavelle, but not for the same reasons. 

Valihura sometimes can&#039;t resist proving that he&#039;s the smartest person in the room, and sometimes it&#039;s to his detriment. For example, I think he was right on the group home issue, but you don&#039;t have to say it in a way that insults his Dartmouth Woods constituents ( swing-Republican ED, BTW) without suffering a political price.  He is more of a negotiator/middle ground-type than Lavelle in Dover, but he comes across as full of himself in the District. If Democratic voters in the Naamans Road/Claymont ED&#039;s come out in proportionate numbers, he could well lose.

Lavelle could as well, but for a little different reason. In a district trending more Democratic, Lavelle&#039;s positions  are often more partisan than the District. Someone who can wrap the current negatives of the Republican brand around him can win. It&#039;s less likely, but, having been through two wave elections, I can tell you that the traditional benchmarks don&#039;t apply. 

An awful lot of mediocre Democratic candidates  got elected post-Watergate. With an imploding economy already adding to a disastrous Presidency, and with no credible candidate for Governor, this could be the year of the perfect storm even for some accomplished and quality Republican incumbents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al, I agree that Valihura may be more vulnerable than Lavelle, but not for the same reasons. </p>
<p>Valihura sometimes can&#8217;t resist proving that he&#8217;s the smartest person in the room, and sometimes it&#8217;s to his detriment. For example, I think he was right on the group home issue, but you don&#8217;t have to say it in a way that insults his Dartmouth Woods constituents ( swing-Republican ED, BTW) without suffering a political price.  He is more of a negotiator/middle ground-type than Lavelle in Dover, but he comes across as full of himself in the District. If Democratic voters in the Naamans Road/Claymont ED&#8217;s come out in proportionate numbers, he could well lose.</p>
<p>Lavelle could as well, but for a little different reason. In a district trending more Democratic, Lavelle&#8217;s positions  are often more partisan than the District. Someone who can wrap the current negatives of the Republican brand around him can win. It&#8217;s less likely, but, having been through two wave elections, I can tell you that the traditional benchmarks don&#8217;t apply. </p>
<p>An awful lot of mediocre Democratic candidates  got elected post-Watergate. With an imploding economy already adding to a disastrous Presidency, and with no credible candidate for Governor, this could be the year of the perfect storm even for some accomplished and quality Republican incumbents.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Mascitti</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/03/12/what-a-joke/#comment-27271</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Mascitti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 16:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, I interpret it differently: that some people  care about the nursing mothers and little old people so much that their suffering outweighs the outcome of any rational analysis. To win the argument, you first have to convince them to consider the evidence. The best way to do that is to present it. Once each side understands what the other wants, we can try to come up with solutions both sides can live with. I&#039;m pretty sure that&#039;s how the first bill got done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, I interpret it differently: that some people  care about the nursing mothers and little old people so much that their suffering outweighs the outcome of any rational analysis. To win the argument, you first have to convince them to consider the evidence. The best way to do that is to present it. Once each side understands what the other wants, we can try to come up with solutions both sides can live with. I&#8217;m pretty sure that&#8217;s how the first bill got done.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Mascitti</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/03/12/what-a-joke/#comment-27270</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Mascitti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve: Thanks for the numbers. With apologies of  both the esteemed legislators, I think Lavelle is safer than Valihura (and I&#039;m not just stroking a source; he usually calls my show when he disagrees with me, and I had one of my all-time donnybrooks with him), but maybe I&#039;m just biased in favor of politicians who speak forcefully. Bob&#039;s strength is in negotiation and consensus-building, which is harder to sell to the electorate. (It also played a role in his drawing the short straw on the trailer park issue).

In any case, neither has been enough of a polarizing force to outweigh the benefits of incumbency, IMHO. Unless, as you note, a D wave of scouring proportions roars through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve: Thanks for the numbers. With apologies of  both the esteemed legislators, I think Lavelle is safer than Valihura (and I&#8217;m not just stroking a source; he usually calls my show when he disagrees with me, and I had one of my all-time donnybrooks with him), but maybe I&#8217;m just biased in favor of politicians who speak forcefully. Bob&#8217;s strength is in negotiation and consensus-building, which is harder to sell to the electorate. (It also played a role in his drawing the short straw on the trailer park issue).</p>
<p>In any case, neither has been enough of a polarizing force to outweigh the benefits of incumbency, IMHO. Unless, as you note, a D wave of scouring proportions roars through.</p>
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		<title>By: Sagacious Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/03/12/what-a-joke/#comment-27269</link>
		<dc:creator>Sagacious Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back to the 7th District and Brandywine Hundred. While clearly we&#039;ll have to wait until Election Day to see how things play out, the trend is not good for Republicans. To wit, the District has trended more Democratic than the registration for some time now. With a few exceptions, D&#039;s statewide and countywide have outperformed the registration figures. In 2004, the R registration edge was just under 1000. However, John Kerry defeated George Bush in the 7th by almost 1000 votes.  In 2007, when B. Short won, the R registration edge was roughly 600, and, as Dave pointed out, more R&#039;s than D&#039;s voted. Yet Short won by a 53%-47% margin. The current R registration edge is now less than 400, and R&#039;s have increasingly been voting for D&#039;s.  It may not be insurmountable, but a bipartisan type like Short fits the district well, kinda like Dave Sokola fits his R-leaning Senate District.

R&#039;s could well find themselves in jeopardy in the 10th and 11th RDs as well. The shift in voter registration is pretty stark. The 10th (Valihura) flipped from an R to D registration edge right around the 2006 election, and there is now a 600 D registration edge in the District.

The 11th (Lavelle) has dropped to an R edge of around 75. It is likely that it will flip in the next 2 or 3 months.

If D&#039;s are able to find credible candidates in those districts, Valihura and Lavelle could well be in trouble, especially if it turns out to be a wave election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back to the 7th District and Brandywine Hundred. While clearly we&#8217;ll have to wait until Election Day to see how things play out, the trend is not good for Republicans. To wit, the District has trended more Democratic than the registration for some time now. With a few exceptions, D&#8217;s statewide and countywide have outperformed the registration figures. In 2004, the R registration edge was just under 1000. However, John Kerry defeated George Bush in the 7th by almost 1000 votes.  In 2007, when B. Short won, the R registration edge was roughly 600, and, as Dave pointed out, more R&#8217;s than D&#8217;s voted. Yet Short won by a 53%-47% margin. The current R registration edge is now less than 400, and R&#8217;s have increasingly been voting for D&#8217;s.  It may not be insurmountable, but a bipartisan type like Short fits the district well, kinda like Dave Sokola fits his R-leaning Senate District.</p>
<p>R&#8217;s could well find themselves in jeopardy in the 10th and 11th RDs as well. The shift in voter registration is pretty stark. The 10th (Valihura) flipped from an R to D registration edge right around the 2006 election, and there is now a 600 D registration edge in the District.</p>
<p>The 11th (Lavelle) has dropped to an R edge of around 75. It is likely that it will flip in the next 2 or 3 months.</p>
<p>If D&#8217;s are able to find credible candidates in those districts, Valihura and Lavelle could well be in trouble, especially if it turns out to be a wave election.</p>
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		<title>By: FSP</title>
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		<dc:creator>FSP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Al, again, you&#039;re talking about thinking liberals who would recognize Krugman and his argument. Those are not the people I&#039;m talking about. 

The people I&#039;m talking about are the demagogues who cry about single mothers and fixed-income retirees being trampled on by greedy robber-baron park owners. The people who throw that out don&#039;t care about Krugman&#039;s legitimate argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al, again, you&#8217;re talking about thinking liberals who would recognize Krugman and his argument. Those are not the people I&#8217;m talking about. </p>
<p>The people I&#8217;m talking about are the demagogues who cry about single mothers and fixed-income retirees being trampled on by greedy robber-baron park owners. The people who throw that out don&#8217;t care about Krugman&#8217;s legitimate argument.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Mascitti</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/03/12/what-a-joke/#comment-27267</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Mascitti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason: In my case, I concede points because sometimes I&#039;m ....well, there&#039;s no other word for it... wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason: In my case, I concede points because sometimes I&#8217;m &#8230;.well, there&#8217;s no other word for it&#8230; wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Mascitti</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/03/12/what-a-joke/#comment-27266</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Mascitti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, you might start by distributing Paul Krugman&#039;s column against rent control. Most liberals recognize the name and like his politics; they might be surprised to find he agrees with the conservatives (and, indeed, with the vast majority of economists, on the order of 90%) on the subject of rent, um, well, control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, you might start by distributing Paul Krugman&#8217;s column against rent control. Most liberals recognize the name and like his politics; they might be surprised to find he agrees with the conservatives (and, indeed, with the vast majority of economists, on the order of 90%) on the subject of rent, um, well, control.</p>
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		<title>By: jason330</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/03/12/what-a-joke/#comment-27265</link>
		<dc:creator>jason330</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right about the Gov race.  I don&#039;t think people have clued into what a giant screw up Castle and Strine have pulled off by letting this situation develop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right about the Gov race.  I don&#8217;t think people have clued into what a giant screw up Castle and Strine have pulled off by letting this situation develop.</p>
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		<title>By: FSP</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/03/12/what-a-joke/#comment-27263</link>
		<dc:creator>FSP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But I’ll stick with my prediction that in a Short-Bowers race, where most voters will recognize neither name, the D will win simply because of the big letter next to his name. With nobody running for governor, this is shaping up as a dreadful year for down-ballot Republicans.&quot;

I concede that this is a legitimate argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But I’ll stick with my prediction that in a Short-Bowers race, where most voters will recognize neither name, the D will win simply because of the big letter next to his name. With nobody running for governor, this is shaping up as a dreadful year for down-ballot Republicans.&#8221;</p>
<p>I concede that this is a legitimate argument.</p>
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		<title>By: FSP</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/03/12/what-a-joke/#comment-27262</link>
		<dc:creator>FSP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You also might better use your effort on rent control by forgetting about the language used and highlighting the widespread agreement among economists over what a terrible idea it is.&quot;

In this state at this time, I don&#039;t think people care that it&#039;s terrible economics. Not when the demagogues are having such an easy time of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You also might better use your effort on rent control by forgetting about the language used and highlighting the widespread agreement among economists over what a terrible idea it is.&#8221;</p>
<p>In this state at this time, I don&#8217;t think people care that it&#8217;s terrible economics. Not when the demagogues are having such an easy time of it.</p>
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		<title>By: jason330</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/03/12/what-a-joke/#comment-27261</link>
		<dc:creator>jason330</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Al,

Have you ever noticed that you and I are the only people who ever concede a point? 

Just an observation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al,</p>
<p>Have you ever noticed that you and I are the only people who ever concede a point? </p>
<p>Just an observation.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Mascitti</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/03/12/what-a-joke/#comment-27260</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Mascitti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the Republican-leaningness of the 7th District, I suppose the vote for Wharton does mean something, though I dismiss the others as votes for incumbents. Voters choose names they recognize.

On the other hand, they recognized the Biden name but not Wharton, so that&#039;s a point for your contention. But I&#039;ll stick with my prediction that in a Short-Bowers race, where most voters will recognize neither name, the D will win simply because of the big letter next to his name. With nobody running for governor, this is shaping up as a dreadful year for down-ballot Republicans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the Republican-leaningness of the 7th District, I suppose the vote for Wharton does mean something, though I dismiss the others as votes for incumbents. Voters choose names they recognize.</p>
<p>On the other hand, they recognized the Biden name but not Wharton, so that&#8217;s a point for your contention. But I&#8217;ll stick with my prediction that in a Short-Bowers race, where most voters will recognize neither name, the D will win simply because of the big letter next to his name. With nobody running for governor, this is shaping up as a dreadful year for down-ballot Republicans.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Mascitti</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareliberal.net/2008/03/12/what-a-joke/#comment-27259</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Mascitti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, I&#039;ll concede the rent control point -- it&#039;s widely understood to include increases pegged to inflation.

On the other hand, that&#039;s not what the Delaware bill did -- or, rather, that&#039;s not all it did. It also allowed increases based on improvements to the premises. If there are any &quot;rent control&quot; systems around the country that allow this, I&#039;m unaware of them. Indeed, that&#039;s one of the many problems with rent-controlled apartments -- there&#039;s no incentive other than the bare minimum of the building code to encourage landlords to improve their property.

You should at least acknowledge that this was an attempt by the tenants to handle the myriad problems with government inserting itself into the real estate market. 

You also might better use your effort on rent control by forgetting about the language used and highlighting the widespread agreement among economists over what a terrible idea it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I&#8217;ll concede the rent control point &#8212; it&#8217;s widely understood to include increases pegged to inflation.</p>
<p>On the other hand, that&#8217;s not what the Delaware bill did &#8212; or, rather, that&#8217;s not all it did. It also allowed increases based on improvements to the premises. If there are any &#8220;rent control&#8221; systems around the country that allow this, I&#8217;m unaware of them. Indeed, that&#8217;s one of the many problems with rent-controlled apartments &#8212; there&#8217;s no incentive other than the bare minimum of the building code to encourage landlords to improve their property.</p>
<p>You should at least acknowledge that this was an attempt by the tenants to handle the myriad problems with government inserting itself into the real estate market. </p>
<p>You also might better use your effort on rent control by forgetting about the language used and highlighting the widespread agreement among economists over what a terrible idea it is.</p>
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