Comments on: The Protack Express is a Train Wreck http://www.delawareliberal.net/2007/12/16/the-protack-express-is-a-train-wreck/ Ground zero for all things political in Delaware Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:35:08 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Nancy Willing http://www.delawareliberal.net/2007/12/16/the-protack-express-is-a-train-wreck/#comment-17216 Nancy Willing Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:24:05 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/2007/12/16/the-protack-express-is-a-train-wreck/#comment-17216 Al, this all started because of how you were attacking Protack. You didn't notice that, huh. My point about going to meetings is that YOU DON'T go NOW. Yet you yack as if you know what's going on. That's all. Al, this all started because of how you were attacking Protack. You didn’t notice that, huh.

My point about going to meetings is that YOU DON’T go NOW. Yet you yack as if you know what’s going on. That’s all.

]]> By: RickJ http://www.delawareliberal.net/2007/12/16/the-protack-express-is-a-train-wreck/#comment-17205 RickJ Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:29:04 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/2007/12/16/the-protack-express-is-a-train-wreck/#comment-17205 Al, his read (and mine) on the Dem primary is borne out from years of experience. Markell is marketed as a progressive outsider of the Carper-Minner-Carney cabal, and while that gets tons of traction among people who give a damn (for example, those who reads political blogs year round), the vast majority of voters don't care. The organization of the union GOTV effort, especially during a primary, is more important. The Republicans found this out in 2006, when instead of getting their people to the polls, they tried to discourage the Protackians. Big mistake, as Protack basically held his numbers from 2004 (with a moderate gain), while the established candidate didn't recieve 1/4 of the support of the 2004 gubernatiorial candidate. What this should mean is that despite all the sound and fury we read on this and other websites, we need to remember that these posts are all done by about twenty people - 15 if you consolidate the Protack fans by IP address - and even if we all agreed and each grabbed ten people, those union folks would run us over with their busloads. Al, his read (and mine) on the Dem primary is borne out from years of experience. Markell is marketed as a progressive outsider of the Carper-Minner-Carney cabal, and while that gets tons of traction among people who give a damn (for example, those who reads political blogs year round), the vast majority of voters don’t care. The organization of the union GOTV effort, especially during a primary, is more important. The Republicans found this out in 2006, when instead of getting their people to the polls, they tried to discourage the Protackians. Big mistake, as Protack basically held his numbers from 2004 (with a moderate gain), while the established candidate didn’t recieve 1/4 of the support of the 2004 gubernatiorial candidate.

What this should mean is that despite all the sound and fury we read on this and other websites, we need to remember that these posts are all done by about twenty people – 15 if you consolidate the Protack fans by IP address – and even if we all agreed and each grabbed ten people, those union folks would run us over with their busloads.

]]> By: Dave http://www.delawareliberal.net/2007/12/16/the-protack-express-is-a-train-wreck/#comment-17204 Dave Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:26:30 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/2007/12/16/the-protack-express-is-a-train-wreck/#comment-17204 My read on the primary is my read on the primary, and it is an opinion that is shared by many, many people. When you have a primary where fewer than 50,000 people vote, the effect of those unions and those firehouse Dixiecrats will be enormous. I remember in the 2006 election they had twenty 12-passenger vans that disappeared into the city to knock-and-drag voters to the polls. Efforts like that by the unions will be for Carney in the 2008 primary. My read on the primary is my read on the primary, and it is an opinion that is shared by many, many people. When you have a primary where fewer than 50,000 people vote, the effect of those unions and those firehouse Dixiecrats will be enormous.

I remember in the 2006 election they had twenty 12-passenger vans that disappeared into the city to knock-and-drag voters to the polls. Efforts like that by the unions will be for Carney in the 2008 primary.

]]> By: Al Mascitti http://www.delawareliberal.net/2007/12/16/the-protack-express-is-a-train-wreck/#comment-17203 Al Mascitti Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:24:31 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/2007/12/16/the-protack-express-is-a-train-wreck/#comment-17203 Nancy, it's not my game. I reiterate: YOU made an ad hominem attack against ME to trigger this -- you accused me of being a "bandwagon jumper," a charge I still can't figure out. It occurs to me that one of your big gripes -- the fact that I'm nice to people I don't necessarily like -- is actually a case of projection on your part. I met you what, three years ago? We've spoken on the air dozens of times, and you never once let on that you had any problem with me. So I find it curious that you're so upset with my on-air demeanor. You need some help. Nancy, it’s not my game. I reiterate: YOU made an ad hominem attack against ME to trigger this — you accused me of being a “bandwagon jumper,” a charge I still can’t figure out.

It occurs to me that one of your big gripes — the fact that I’m nice to people I don’t necessarily like — is actually a case of projection on your part. I met you what, three years ago? We’ve spoken on the air dozens of times, and you never once let on that you had any problem with me. So I find it curious that you’re so upset with my on-air demeanor. You need some help.

]]> By: Al Mascitti http://www.delawareliberal.net/2007/12/16/the-protack-express-is-a-train-wreck/#comment-17202 Al Mascitti Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:21:03 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/2007/12/16/the-protack-express-is-a-train-wreck/#comment-17202 Dave, my interest in this race is to see BOTH parties nominate their best candidates. I don't believe that you, as a Republican operative, have the same goal. I'm not saying you're a loser. I'm saying you're overestimating the effect of the out-of-state union people, and that your read on the Democratic primary is self-serving. That's all. Dave, my interest in this race is to see BOTH parties nominate their best candidates. I don’t believe that you, as a Republican operative, have the same goal. I’m not saying you’re a loser. I’m saying you’re overestimating the effect of the out-of-state union people, and that your read on the Democratic primary is self-serving. That’s all.

]]> By: Dave http://www.delawareliberal.net/2007/12/16/the-protack-express-is-a-train-wreck/#comment-17200 Dave Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:16:49 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/2007/12/16/the-protack-express-is-a-train-wreck/#comment-17200 You should be RickJ. You are the lowest class of human -- an anonymous poster who criticizes Mike Protack. Remember that. I rolled out of bed this morning and stepped on one of my kid's toys and cursed your name as the cause of all misfortune in the world. You should be RickJ. You are the lowest class of human — an anonymous poster who criticizes Mike Protack. Remember that.

I rolled out of bed this morning and stepped on one of my kid’s toys and cursed your name as the cause of all misfortune in the world.

]]> By: RickJ http://www.delawareliberal.net/2007/12/16/the-protack-express-is-a-train-wreck/#comment-17195 RickJ Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:42:00 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/2007/12/16/the-protack-express-is-a-train-wreck/#comment-17195 <i>"If I cared what uninformed, anonymous people thought, it would be a different story. "</i> I'm hurt, Dave. “If I cared what uninformed, anonymous people thought, it would be a different story. “

I’m hurt, Dave.

]]> By: Dave http://www.delawareliberal.net/2007/12/16/the-protack-express-is-a-train-wreck/#comment-17192 Dave Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:32:09 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/2007/12/16/the-protack-express-is-a-train-wreck/#comment-17192 "First you talked about what a great candidate Christian was, then you had your ass handed to you and when people called you a loser you responded that she never had a prayer. What, you’ve forgotten already?" Both statements are still 100% true. No Republican candidate had a chance to beat Ennis in that race, but Joanne Christian is still one of the finest people I've ever met. People are always going to call me a loser when I lose. If I cared what uninformed, anonymous people thought, it would be a different story. "By the way, Dave, if what you learned in the 14th was that it’s impossible for you to beat the big, bad union people from out of state, I would argue you haven’t learned much of anything useful at all." It's very difficult to beat the big, bad union people in a 3:2 Democrat district in a special election where they can converge on on spot for one day. A general election is a far different story, but since you know everything already, I don't need to explain. “First you talked about what a great candidate Christian was, then you had your ass handed to you and when people called you a loser you responded that she never had a prayer. What, you’ve forgotten already?”

Both statements are still 100% true. No Republican candidate had a chance to beat Ennis in that race, but Joanne Christian is still one of the finest people I’ve ever met. People are always going to call me a loser when I lose. If I cared what uninformed, anonymous people thought, it would be a different story.

“By the way, Dave, if what you learned in the 14th was that it’s impossible for you to beat the big, bad union people from out of state, I would argue you haven’t learned much of anything useful at all.”

It’s very difficult to beat the big, bad union people in a 3:2 Democrat district in a special election where they can converge on on spot for one day. A general election is a far different story, but since you know everything already, I don’t need to explain.

]]> By: Al Mascitti http://www.delawareliberal.net/2007/12/16/the-protack-express-is-a-train-wreck/#comment-17191 Al Mascitti Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:26:08 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/2007/12/16/the-protack-express-is-a-train-wreck/#comment-17191 "weep at the sad state of the state report today." It's called a DEFAC report. "If the gas station wars are so clearly obvious, why can’t you see the pharmacy wars?" Everybody saw them, moron. Only you would make it some sort of moral litmus test over whether the guy sells his business. "You went to meetings as a journalist not as someone who did any fucking thing about anything. " Oh. My. God. You just figured this out? As a journalist, I wasn't permitted to join anything. I wasn't allowed to have a bumper sticker on my car. My only outlet was my choice of topics to write about. If you think you can do better elsewhere, by all means do so. “weep at the sad state of the state report today.”

It’s called a DEFAC report.

“If the gas station wars are so clearly obvious, why can’t you see the pharmacy wars?”

Everybody saw them, moron. Only you would make it some sort of moral litmus test over whether the guy sells his business.

“You went to meetings as a journalist not as someone who did any fucking thing about anything. ”

Oh. My. God. You just figured this out? As a journalist, I wasn’t permitted to join anything. I wasn’t allowed to have a bumper sticker on my car. My only outlet was my choice of topics to write about. If you think you can do better elsewhere, by all means do so.

]]> By: Nancy Willing http://www.delawareliberal.net/2007/12/16/the-protack-express-is-a-train-wreck/#comment-17190 Nancy Willing Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:56:46 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/2007/12/16/the-protack-express-is-a-train-wreck/#comment-17190 The state is in big trouble. To deny it here indicates that this is just an exercise for you to try kick me around. You aren't reading through what is here. You aren't doing anything constructive but I'll play your game. We'll probably hit the 300 comment mark before the week is out. The state is in big trouble. To deny it here indicates that this is just an exercise for you to try kick me around. You aren’t reading through what is here. You aren’t doing anything constructive but I’ll play your game.

We’ll probably hit the 300 comment mark before the week is out.

]]> By: Nancy Willing http://www.delawareliberal.net/2007/12/16/the-protack-express-is-a-train-wreck/#comment-17189 Nancy Willing Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:50:42 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/2007/12/16/the-protack-express-is-a-train-wreck/#comment-17189 I have plenty of work to do Al. I volunteer my time for the most part. I don't want or need a job. Try again. I doubt that you will find anything but a hardworking sincere person here, should you care to look. But you'd rather slime on me. This thread won't exactly bring you any glory when people who know me get a look at it. I imagine a few of them are going to have some sharp words for you. Mingy said that Levin Had to sell so I countered that contention. No mystery there. He sold because he could make out like a bandit. You might as well take a few minutes and read these comments before you shoot off. If you read the 1997 article above, you'll find 'evidence cause he says right there that he is planning deliberately to take advantage of the pharmacy wars a way back then. Al, really. Speak out of your ass if you must but please step off a bit, ya stanking up the place, dude. Can't you even try to be consistent? If the gas station wars are so clearly obvious, why can't you see the pharmacy wars? Didn't you say that your wife used to babysit Levin? I thought I heard that coming out of the radio one day. If so that would explain your current level of insanity on the subject. Protective of the guy. Does he need a widdle blankie? I have plenty of work to do Al. I volunteer my time for the most part. I don’t want or need a job. Try again. I doubt that you will find anything but a hardworking sincere person here, should you care to look. But you’d rather slime on me. This thread won’t exactly bring you any glory when people who know me get a look at it. I imagine a few of them are going to have some sharp words for you.

Mingy said that Levin Had to sell so I countered that contention. No mystery there. He sold because he could make out like a bandit. You might as well take a few minutes and read these comments before you shoot off.

If you read the 1997 article above, you’ll find ‘evidence cause he says right there that he is planning deliberately to take advantage of the pharmacy wars a way back then. Al, really. Speak out of your ass if you must but please step off a bit, ya stanking up the place, dude.

Can’t you even try to be consistent? If the gas station wars are so clearly obvious, why can’t you see the pharmacy wars?

Didn’t you say that your wife used to babysit Levin? I thought I heard that coming out of the radio one day. If so that would explain your current level of insanity on the subject. Protective of the guy. Does he need a widdle blankie?

]]> By: Nancy Willing http://www.delawareliberal.net/2007/12/16/the-protack-express-is-a-train-wreck/#comment-17188 Nancy Willing Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:30:26 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/2007/12/16/the-protack-express-is-a-train-wreck/#comment-17188 Well, Al if you insist on running this forevah I am right here with you. This IS the work I do Al. You haven't figured that out yet? You come here for fun? County corruption - I broke the story that their comp plan implementation meetings were being held illegally. What, you didn't catch that? Before you make a bigger ass out of yourself: reL'Riiiight. Like you’d have clue where the state is headed. - try opening up the paper and weep at the sad state of the state report today. Didn't see that one coming Albert? Wassa matta loosing your touch? As if you ever had one. more here http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071218/ap_on_re_us/state_finances;_ylt=Arsuhbf63vjNfHNnWht84J2s0NUE You went to meetings as a journalist not as someone who did any fucking thing about anything. Shit. Yours interest was financially impelled not civic-minded. There is plenty going on that will be coming out very soon. The county is now putting law together that you all in your hill country will not like. You might want to stick your nose in and see for yourself. No, Actually Al, you wrote one piece on the farm and Clark called you out in a flash and you sucked right up to him. I remember thinking what a putz you were about the whole thing. Clark shut your entire game down with one call. Chick chick chick chick!!!! I have got plenty of skills. I have worked all of my life. You can try as long as you like to keep this up honey! I have you pegged but good. You still haven't told me who passed on those lies about me which you put out on the intertubes. And you haven't rebutted that your rating suck, so there you have. Good job as long as they'll keep ya. Well, Al if you insist on running this forevah I am right here with you. This IS the work I do Al. You haven’t figured that out yet? You come here for fun?

County corruption – I broke the story that their comp plan implementation meetings were being held illegally. What, you didn’t catch that?

Before you make a bigger ass out of yourself: reL’Riiiight. Like you’d have clue where the state is headed. – try opening up the paper and weep at the sad state of the state report today. Didn’t see that one coming Albert? Wassa matta loosing your touch? As if you ever had one.
more here
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071218/ap_on_re_us/state_finances;_ylt=Arsuhbf63vjNfHNnWht84J2s0NUE

You went to meetings as a journalist not as someone who did any fucking thing about anything. Shit. Yours interest was financially impelled not civic-minded. There is plenty going on that will be coming out very soon. The county is now putting law together that you all in your hill country will not like. You might want to stick your nose in and see for yourself.

No, Actually Al, you wrote one piece on the farm and Clark called you out in a flash and you sucked right up to him. I remember thinking what a putz you were about the whole thing. Clark shut your entire game down with one call. Chick chick chick chick!!!!

I have got plenty of skills. I have worked all of my life. You can try as long as you like to keep this up honey! I have you pegged but good.

You still haven’t told me who passed on those lies about me which you put out on the intertubes. And you haven’t rebutted that your rating suck, so there you have. Good job as long as they’ll keep ya.

]]> By: Outside the Perimeter: Wind Day « kavips http://www.delawareliberal.net/2007/12/16/the-protack-express-is-a-train-wreck/#comment-17187 Outside the Perimeter: Wind Day « kavips Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:50:28 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/2007/12/16/the-protack-express-is-a-train-wreck/#comment-17187 [...] word: Protack….You can read about him here, here, here, and here. And his stealth opponent had a few bytes written about him as well (watch the [...] [...] word: Protack….You can read about him here, here, here, and here. And his stealth opponent had a few bytes written about him as well (watch the [...]

]]> By: Mingtown http://www.delawareliberal.net/2007/12/16/the-protack-express-is-a-train-wreck/#comment-17164 Mingtown Tue, 18 Dec 2007 04:12:30 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/2007/12/16/the-protack-express-is-a-train-wreck/#comment-17164 He didn’t HAVE TO SELL. But did he plan it out very deliberately. He knew that through an expansion of the business , HH would attrack offers in the ongoing pharmacy wars that were well known to anyone paying the least bit of attention through the last couple of decades. (something that Mascittiville just can’t get his head around - I mean what do you want from the guy? It was privately run family company and maybe he wanted to do other things in life. Lets face it you can't just quit that job the same way you quit others. Other than that all I can tell you is that this shit happens sometimes. Its called running a successful business. It's actually what most business type people strive to do. In the end he made the decision to sell and it was his decision to make, and I'm sure none of us here will ever know 100% why. All we do know is that he did a hell of job running it, and its a shame the merger didn't go as smoothly as people would have liked. He didn’t HAVE TO SELL. But did he plan it out very deliberately. He knew that through an expansion of the business , HH would attrack offers in the ongoing pharmacy wars that were well known to anyone paying the least bit of attention through the last couple of decades. (something that Mascittiville just can’t get his head around
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I mean what do you want from the guy?

It was privately run family company and maybe he wanted to do other things in life. Lets face it you can’t just quit that job the same way you quit others.

Other than that all I can tell you is that this shit happens sometimes. Its called running a successful business. It’s actually what most business type people strive to do.

In the end he made the decision to sell and it was his decision to make, and I’m sure none of us here will ever know 100% why. All we do know is that he did a hell of job running it, and its a shame the merger didn’t go as smoothly as people would have liked.

]]> By: Al Mascitti http://www.delawareliberal.net/2007/12/16/the-protack-express-is-a-train-wreck/#comment-17162 Al Mascitti Tue, 18 Dec 2007 03:46:15 +0000 http://www.delawareliberal.net/2007/12/16/the-protack-express-is-a-train-wreck/#comment-17162 "Another corporate war going on locally is the gas station war. It is a territorial takeover mindset" Wow. What insight. You should rename your blog "Stating the Obvious." Or maybe "Stating the Obvious Incoherently." “Another corporate war going on locally is the gas station war. It is a territorial takeover mindset”

Wow. What insight. You should rename your blog “Stating the Obvious.” Or maybe “Stating the Obvious Incoherently.”

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